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Post by fran on Jun 11, 2019 20:46:29 GMT 1
latest comments and those before i.e. Wagner to blame 1990s double glazing salesman
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jun 11, 2019 20:59:44 GMT 1
Eh? He doesn't mention Wagner at all.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 11, 2019 21:11:09 GMT 1
latest comments and those before i.e. Wagner to blame 1990s double glazing salesman What language is this and all your other posts for that matter?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 11, 2019 21:19:07 GMT 1
latest comments and those before i.e. Wagner to blame 1990s double glazing salesman Those are just random words that mean fuck all 🤔
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Post by brickthespecial on Jun 11, 2019 21:41:12 GMT 1
positive words whilst we're in a holding position of sorts
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 11, 2019 22:22:47 GMT 1
Winter is a top man, was a good player for Town.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 11, 2019 22:29:45 GMT 1
Winter is a top man, was a good player for Town. Was he fuck
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 22:40:02 GMT 1
Winter is a top man, was a good player for Town. Was he fuck He was bleeding useless.
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Post by dugnet on Jun 11, 2019 22:42:38 GMT 1
Winter is a top man, was a good player for Town. You post some very odd stuff, he was average at best. As for his rhetoric issued today, as with most things with the club at the moment...It's about actions and results...For once in my DATM life I'm keeping my counsel and just going to wait and see what happens. My only observation is that this video seems a clumsy attempt to keep fans, who maybe concerned, updated about what's happening.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 11, 2019 22:56:12 GMT 1
Actually ..... he started off pretty useless . But grew into a pretty accomplished player. We got a fee for him when we sold him to a better team. He then promptly got injured and never played again. He was only young and I reckon he would have had a good career
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 11, 2019 23:11:28 GMT 1
I remember Winter being decent enough in midfield at the time. Nothing special but far from crap too.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 11, 2019 23:20:32 GMT 1
I remember Winter being decent enough in midfield at the time. Nothing special but far from crap too. He was improving .. not many of our players from that era got moves to higher rates teams but he did .. I think folk are being a bit harsh on him
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 11, 2019 23:27:37 GMT 1
Who did he go to? can't remember.
This must have been 86, 87, something like that?
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Post by shawsie on Jun 11, 2019 23:45:59 GMT 1
Who did he go to? can't remember. This must have been 86, 87, something like that? Wasn't it sheff utd?
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 12, 2019 0:16:29 GMT 1
I remember seeing him break his leg at the Baseball Ground, oh and his sister was (might still be) a tidy boiler, she was a sales representative for British Airways.
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Post by sabailand on Jun 12, 2019 0:42:46 GMT 1
I remember Winter being decent enough in midfield at the time. Nothing special but far from crap too. Remember him scoring on one of his very early appearances for town away at Brighton 1st sept 1984 in a 1-0 win, it might have even been his debut but im not at all sure, he was an ok player, seen better but seen a lot lot worse.
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Jun 12, 2019 2:11:33 GMT 1
I remember him being in a team which also had a Simon and a Dale. No footballer should be called these names. Durm’s main positive was his first name. Proper foorballer’s name
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 12, 2019 6:43:43 GMT 1
Who did he go to? can't remember. This must have been 86, 87, something like that? Wasn't it sheff utd? Yes it was Sheffield United, he promptly broke his leg though. The only thing I can remember him doing was scoring a 25 harder for Town against Chester same day as Hillsborough.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 7:16:02 GMT 1
Yes it was Sheffield United, he promptly broke his leg though. The only thing I can remember him doing was scoring a 25 harder for Town against Chester same day as Hillsborough. According to Wiki he sustained ligament damage a week before the season started, and consequently didn't play a single game for the blades. LINK
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 12, 2019 7:59:15 GMT 1
Who did he go to? can't remember. This must have been 86, 87, something like that? Wasn't it sheff utd? Another good player who left for Sheff Utd was Simon Webster, around that time, he was decent.
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Post by mickydombat on Jun 12, 2019 8:45:06 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:12:17 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. What has age got to do with it may I ask? I know plenty of people in my profession who are mid 20s and piss on blokes who have done their job for 20 years.
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Post by tockyterrier on Jun 12, 2019 9:15:28 GMT 1
Winter is a top man, was a good player for Town. You post some very odd stuff, he was average at best. As for his rhetoric issued today, as with most things with the club at the moment...It's about actions and results...For once in my DATM life I'm keeping my counsel and just going to wait and see what happens. My only observation is that this video seems a clumsy attempt to keep fans, who maybe concerned, updated about what's happening. Wasnt everyone complaining that the club were being to quiet and lost their openness with the fans a few weeks back?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:19:27 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. Why do you think he's out of his depth? From what I see and know from people who deal with him, he's a very accomplished bloke who speaks as it is. Anybody who works for and lasts at a senior level under Dean Hoyle must have something about them.
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Post by townrwe on Jun 12, 2019 9:25:07 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. Not sure age really has anything to do with using statistical analysis to recruit players... aka moneyball. The key is setting up the right parameters and finding undervalued skill sets that allow us to overacheive on our budget. Who's to say Marsh hasn't been pretty successful in his recruitment and rebbe and moss were the ones that identified and pushed the dross? You would expect marsh to have primarily been looking for value and youth, if you take grant, bacuna and some of the signings the academy have made, he looks to be doing a good job.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 12, 2019 9:30:10 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. Why do you think he's out of his depth? From what I see and know from people who deal with him, he's a very accomplished bloke who speaks as it is. Anybody who works for and lasts at a senior level under Dean Hoyle must have something about them.
the club as a whole made mistakes last pre season and continued to make further mistakes as the season dipped and then died.. some trying to remove all guilt for this from the playing staff see Winter as the easy way out.. If we have as many in and out this pre season as its looks likely, there will be one or two 'errors' in waiting.. If we do ok and cover this error or two nobody will mind, if it causes us grief then Winter at least has the safety net that most on here will blame Sievert as minds have been made up early doors.. It is in fact a club issue. Lets hope and believe the 'club' is better from here on.. We do like a 'focal point' for our praise and our bile but in reality nobody gets you 'up' on their own and nobody will take us 'backward' on his own.. Last year was very much a joint effort in losing our way and then allowing it to just get worse..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:34:58 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. He’s not working by himself searching out players, watching all the videos, coming up with an offer and negotiating contracts without any assistance! There’s a whole panel of people involved. Julian Winter is currently heading that panel in lieu of a head of football ops. When the head of football ops comes in, he’ll take over Julian’s role, and Josh will continue doing exactly what he’s doing in that whole process...so best get used to it. I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to suggest JW is out of his depth, although I do wonder if the apparent acceleration of attempting to fulfil that role (its previously been stated we wouldn’t get one until after the transfer window closes, that seems to have been canned if they’re interviewing next couple of weeks) is down to his realisation from his brief exposure to it, that it’s a job that needs doing full time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:37:04 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. What has age got to do with it may I ask? I know plenty of people in my profession who are mid 20s and piss on blokes who have done their job for 20 years. I’m sorry but I can’t get out of my head the nagging thought that you are in the porn industry? Are you?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 9:53:41 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. Stuart Webber started at Liverpool as Director of recruitment at 25 years old and was responsible for taking Raheem Sterling there. He's only 33 now so what has age got to do with anything?
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 12, 2019 9:55:16 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that Winter is out of his depth and using Josh Marsh as head of recruitment at age 26 is a mistake. I really want us to show some good signs but it looks ominous. I am afraid we are on a downward spiral. Hope to God I am wrong. What has age got to do with it may I ask? I know plenty of people in my profession who are mid 20s and piss on blokes who have done their job for 20 years. Maybe you're a professional sportsman then? Or a rent boy appealing to peculiar tastes? 😁
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