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Post by diceman on Jun 12, 2019 14:53:45 GMT 1
Ask people who is the best player of all time, for some strange reason people who were not even alive seem to be able to tell you how good a player in the past was. If you haven’t seen George best live or Maradonna or messi your not really the best person to tell others there wrong. Bollocks |
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Post by diceman on Jun 12, 2019 14:54:58 GMT 1
No such thing as a G. O. A. T in team sport imo
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 12, 2019 15:00:00 GMT 1
Ask people who is the best player of all time, for some strange reason people who were not even alive seem to be able to tell you how good a player in the past was. If you haven’t seen George best live or Maradonna or messi your not really the best person to tell others there wrong. Bollocks [/quote Touchy did I upset you or are you just rude generally in life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 15:00:03 GMT 1
Ask people who is the best player of all time, for some strange reason people who were not even alive seem to be able to tell you how good a player in the past was. If you haven’t seen George best live or Maradonna or messi your not really the best person to tell others there wrong. No point singing three times in a row if youre a Town fan and werent there. Cant gloat to others if you werent there. Plenty of full length videos to.cast judgement, being at a game and witnessing live, does not make it any better. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 12, 2019 15:01:23 GMT 1
Ask people who is the best player of all time, for some strange reason people who were not even alive seem to be able to tell you how good a player in the past was. If you haven’t seen George best live or Maradonna or messi your not really the best person to tell others there wrong. No point singing three times in a row if youre a Town fan and werent there. Cant gloat to others if you werent there. Plenty of full length videos to.cast judgement, being at a game and witnessing live, does not make it any better. It does to me |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 15:04:59 GMT 1
No point singing three times in a row if youre a Town fan and werent there. Cant gloat to others if you werent there. Plenty of full length videos to.cast judgement, being at a game and witnessing live, does not make it any better. It does to me Respect your opinion, but mine differs. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jun 12, 2019 15:05:18 GMT 1
Respect your opinion, but mine differs. Yours also |
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Jun 12, 2019 15:23:44 GMT 1
Henry choked in most big games. Awful record against the better domestic teams, and cost Arsenal the 2006 CL final as much as the ref did. A brilliant player, but shouldn't be in the discussion IMO.
Messi is the top one for me. We're very lucky to have him and Ronaldo at the same time, and for them to sustain their peaks for so long.
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Post by paulsg on Jun 12, 2019 15:24:26 GMT 1
I never saw Duncan Edwards play, but I understand he had nothing on our Col.
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Post by golcarexile on Jun 12, 2019 15:38:38 GMT 1
1. CR7 2. R9 3. Pele Closed shop Pele...not even in the top 20.....21st for me! This always gives me a chuckle. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 12, 2019 16:11:35 GMT 1
Nice to see Jeff Beck's brother in there, Franz Beck.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 16:30:21 GMT 1
Cant split CR7 or Messi....Maradona very close. What does it for me, Ronaldo has done it everywhere. Won Euros too etc. R9 2nd, done it everywhere again, not as good as Ronaldo has, won 2 World Cups too. Pele done it in one country(not including US cameo) like Messi has, but hes got 3 world cups to his name. Messi is great, but just showcasing it in one league and nothing on international level, with some world class players isnt as good as the Top 2 for me. Obviously my opinion of course I disagree....its a team sport.....Messi could have spent his entire career at West Ham, refused to leave and still been the joint greatest. 35 trophies, 4 Champions league which are equal to a world Cup...listen to the peers....5 Ballon D'Or. As for Internationals...what did Best win? Cantona, Giggs and Di Stefano never even played at the finals. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 16:37:35 GMT 1
What does it for me, Ronaldo has done it everywhere. Won Euros too etc. R9 2nd, done it everywhere again, not as good as Ronaldo has, won 2 World Cups too. Pele done it in one country(not including US cameo) like Messi has, but hes got 3 world cups to his name. Messi is great, but just showcasing it in one league and nothing on international level, with some world class players isnt as good as the Top 2 for me. Obviously my opinion of course I disagree....its a team sport.....Messi could have spent his entire career at West Ham, refused to leave and still been the joint greatest. 35 trophies, 4 Champions league which are equal to a world Cup...listen to the peers....5 Ballon D'Or. As for Internationals...what did Best win? Cantona, Giggs and Di Stefano never even played at the finals. You lost me at 4 Champions League which are equal to Worrld Cups. No Oti, theyre equal to the Euros |
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Post by drumriggend on Jun 12, 2019 16:41:09 GMT 1
Look...
Its quite simple...
Cr7 ronaldo is better than messi..
If you disagree..you are wrong🧐
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Post by diceman on Jun 12, 2019 17:42:42 GMT 1
Bollocks [/quote Touchy did I upset you or are you just rude generally in life. Sorry. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 19:29:35 GMT 1
I disagree....its a team sport.....Messi could have spent his entire career at West Ham, refused to leave and still been the joint greatest. 35 trophies, 4 Champions league which are equal to a world Cup...listen to the peers....5 Ballon D'Or. As for Internationals...what did Best win? Cantona, Giggs and Di Stefano never even played at the finals. You lost me at 4 Champions League which are equal to Worrld Cups. No Oti, theyre equal to the Euros Turn it on its head...Dear Harry Kane/Raheem Sterling/Kyle Walker, would you prefer to win the Champions league or a World Cup? |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 12, 2019 19:42:22 GMT 1
What does it for me, Ronaldo has done it everywhere. Won Euros too etc. R9 2nd, done it everywhere again, not as good as Ronaldo has, won 2 World Cups too. Pele done it in one country(not including US cameo) like Messi has, but hes got 3 world cups to his name. Messi is great, but just showcasing it in one league and nothing on international level, with some world class players isnt as good as the Top 2 for me. Obviously my opinion of course I disagree....its a team sport.....Messi could have spent his entire career at West Ham, refused to leave and still been the joint greatest. 35 trophies, 4 Champions league which are equal to a world Cup...listen to the peers....5 Ballon D'Or. As for Internationals... what did Best win? Cantona, Giggs and Di Stefano never even played at the finals. Two League titles, the European Cup & the Ballon d'Or by the time he was 22. Plus he slept with Miss World (something you'd know about maybe  ) Playing for Northern Ireland he was never going to win anything at international level. Best went off the rails in his early/mid twenties and his career was ruined by his playboy lifestyle and excessive drinking. Had he been playing with today's pampered superstars he'd have no doubt had a helluva lot more silverware in his trophy cabinet to add to the notches on his bedpost. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 19:49:54 GMT 1
You lost me at 4 Champions League which are equal to Worrld Cups. No Oti, theyre equal to the Euros Turn it on its head...Dear Harry Kane/Raheem Sterling/Kyle Walker, would you prefer to win the Champions league or a World Cup? World Cup |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 20:34:52 GMT 1
I disagree....its a team sport.....Messi could have spent his entire career at West Ham, refused to leave and still been the joint greatest. 35 trophies, 4 Champions league which are equal to a world Cup...listen to the peers....5 Ballon D'Or. As for Internationals... what did Best win? Cantona, Giggs and Di Stefano never even played at the finals. Two League titles, the European Cup & the Ballon d'Or by the time he was 22. Plus he slept with Miss World (something you'd know about maybe ) Playing for Northern Ireland he was never going to win anything at international level. Best went off the rails in his early/mid twenties and his career was ruined by his playboy lifestyle and excessive drinking. Had he been playing with today's pampered superstars he'd have no doubt had a helluva lot more silverware in his trophy cabinet to add to the notches on his bedpost. I wrote "as for internationals what did Best win". I saw him many times, right up there. Top 25 of all time. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 20:37:12 GMT 1
Turn it on its head...Dear Harry Kane/Raheem Sterling/Kyle Walker, would you prefer to win the Champions league or a World Cup? World Cup I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 20:44:22 GMT 1
Turn it on its head...Dear Harry Kane/Raheem Sterling/Kyle Walker, would you prefer to win the Champions league or a World Cup? World Cup I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. |
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Post by jstorr13 on Jun 12, 2019 20:44:50 GMT 1
Couldn’t pick between Messi or Ronnie, so I’ve voted for super Col instead.
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Post by tobbyg on Jun 12, 2019 20:49:41 GMT 1
I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. I’d be surprised if even one of them said champions league. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 20:51:55 GMT 1
I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. But youve just asked me, not a pampered footballer and i said World Cup, so World Cup thanks |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 20:52:52 GMT 1
I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. I’d be surprised if even one of them said champions league. My thoughts too. You can live forever being a World Cup winner, ask Geoff Hurst |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 12, 2019 21:00:13 GMT 1
I would not be so sure...not at all. Many feign injury to escape internationals or retire early to save their precious careers. What you think is not what pampered footballers think. I reckon if you asked 100 top English players then 75% would choose Champions League. I’d be surprised if even one of them said champions league. 95% could not name where the next two held. You are wrong Tobby. |
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Post by tobbyg on Jun 12, 2019 21:01:03 GMT 1
I’d be surprised if even one of them said champions league. My thoughts too. You can live forever being a World Cup winner, ask Geoff Hurst Yeah obviously players generally prioritise club over country but it’s like me not playing the euromillions, I still wouldn’t turn my nose up if I won it. |
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Post by tobbyg on Jun 12, 2019 21:03:27 GMT 1
I’d be surprised if even one of them said champions league. 95% could not name where the next two held. You are wrong Tobby. I could well be mate, I often am. But i like to think it’s for the feeling of being surprised  |
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Post by tobbyg on Jun 12, 2019 21:06:19 GMT 1
And to be fair I think if they were asked they’d say world cup even if it’s not true as to not offend the nationalists.
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Post by DuncanShearer on Jun 12, 2019 21:56:29 GMT 1
Ronaldo and Messi joint as it stands, the only thing that will separate them is which goes on longer, which IMO will be Ronaldo just because he is probably genetically geared to, and apparently has similar fitness regimes to Giggs.
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) Playing for Northern Ireland he was never going to win anything at international level. 
