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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 10:29:30 GMT 1
I'm aware that in the past the club has stated that they lose money hand over fist where programmes are concerned; well, they're now in a situation where there is no requirement for them to produce them any more. Since last season, the EFL has said that clubs can choose whether they produce "hard copy" or not, leaving the door open to e-programmes. Does anybody know what the club stance is on this, please?
Not that I'll be buying them - I only ever pick up the one for the very last home game of the season - but I know that there are quite a few programme collectors on here.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 10:56:30 GMT 1
I’m not sure to be honest. I always used to buy programmes for every game I attended, but about 10 years ago got rid of all programmes from games that didn’t involve Town, except for quite a lot of Bradford City, and a few Halifax, Bradford Park Avenue and Leeds (yes I know.....) from the 60’s and 70’s. At least they had character and it’s interesting to look back through them occasionally. I still buy progs for Town games only, but, to be honest, I think that’s just habit as I barely read them. They all look the same nowadays.
So, in answer to your question, they can go virtual as far as I’m concerned.
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Post by royrace on Jun 19, 2019 11:09:35 GMT 1
Very rare that I buy one these days but it would be a massive shame if they didn't produce one, I know a lot of people still buy one every game and its a great memento for kids.
Seems they need to come up with ways of cutting the cost, since team news etc is available all over the place these days via the internet maybe produce one to cover say 4 matches, could include QR codes to get match info for each game, some of it exclusive. Much cheaper to produce online content. Alternatively produce a slimmed down version with exclusive links to online content.
Or just keep producing them, the expense is a drop in the ocean compared to the weekly wage of your average footballer!
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 11:12:16 GMT 1
In 2019 it doesn’t make any sense providing hard copies. Especially if no money is being made. It would be an easy decision for me if I was the owner desig.
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Post by yappledapple on Jun 19, 2019 11:28:26 GMT 1
I’m sure a virtual one could be linked to the Town app on match days for people to read.
Got to make sure there’s a signal to be able to get on it though.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 11:53:26 GMT 1
Incidentally, I have just scanned my "Photographs, History, Record and Blotter Year Book 1925-26" if anybody is interested in seeing it. I'm very pleased at how it has worked out and will do all of my other 1920s and rare booklets in the near future. LINK
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Post by andyboothscat on Jun 19, 2019 12:04:55 GMT 1
If the club do decide to keep them then they need to make them better because they are currently awful.
I fell into the trip of getting them at the start of our premier league visit and then keeping it up for the whole two seasons. The whole thing is just a glorified advertising brochure to be honest. Its surely not a sustainable model because I can't see people continuing to pay for such a poor product.
The player Q & As were particularly bad. What is the point of asking a question such as 'first ever car/boots/football shirt' and then publishing their response of 'Can't remember'. Who is gaining anything from learning about that nugget of information!?
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Post by Bubbles on Jun 19, 2019 12:12:30 GMT 1
On another note and sorry to hi-jack,does anybody know the guy who sells programmes outside the ground on match days?
Clearing my garage out and there a lot of Town and other clubs he can have?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 12:44:00 GMT 1
Incidentally, I have just scanned my "Photographs, History, Record and Blotter Year Book 1925-26" if anybody is interested in seeing it. I'm very pleased at how it has worked out and will do all of my other 1920s and rare booklets in the near future. LINKGood work Roger On the subject of programmes, i have around 50 or so (including all the home ones from 2009/10) but hate the clutter, so similar to you am in the process of just scanning them in. Takes a while but i'd rather have them all in PDF format on a USB stick, than stuck in a cupboard just taking up space. Hopefully one day i can build up a proper digital collection of them but for now just scanning the ones i own. In terms of what the club should do, didn't we try e-programmes a few years back yet and it didn't take off? Not sure i would buy in either format but wouldn't blame the club for doing digital versions only, even though i would think it would have complaints from collectors.
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Post by benhomly on Jun 19, 2019 13:37:09 GMT 1
I certainly wouldn't subscribe to an e-format but would continue to buy hard copies. Have got a home programme for virtually every season going back to 1920, including one from 1912 so would be disappointed if they stopped doing them now. But that's progress for you
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 14:08:00 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 14:27:33 GMT 1
Like MT I only buy the one from last match but there are many of those around us who buy one every game so hope they continue to produce a hard copy
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jun 19, 2019 14:31:27 GMT 1
Think for the run-of-the-mill league games there is no longer any point. From a cost, ecological and even content standpoint, you can't really see a reason for it. Could do one per month, with specials for opening games, huge games (derbies etc), last games of the season etc. There is so much online content out there I don't see what the pull is to buy a programme aside from sentimental value.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 14:42:22 GMT 1
Think for the run-of-the-mill league games there is no longer any point. From a cost, ecological and even content standpoint, you can't really see a reason for it. Could do one per month, with specials for opening games, huge games (derbies etc), last games of the season etc. There is so much online content out there I don't see what the pull is to buy a programme aside from sentimental value. It is their hobby. Collecting is important to some fans .Should at least be given the choice.
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Post by tobbyg on Jun 19, 2019 14:51:27 GMT 1
Simple solution-let Nick write them (less time to spend on here) and Grimmy crowd fund the project.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 15:17:11 GMT 1
Simple solution-let Nick write them (less time to spend on here) and Grimmy crowd fund the project.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 19, 2019 18:32:26 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted. Exactly right IMO. They produce this massive, all singing, all dancing glossy magazine that is invariably full of mundane stuff of little interest.. dull predictanble interviews, endless stats and general guff. All you need is something to have a quick flick through at half time. A short quiz, basic club news and comments from the manager. About 8 pages, no colour, on cheap paper. £1. I don;t bother at £3 for something Im never going to read. At £1 i would and even better it will fold up and fit in your pocket cos the current ones are like carting round a yellow pages.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 19, 2019 19:15:26 GMT 1
I personally enjoy collecting Town programmes and have bought one every home game for years. It’s a part of football matches of old which I enjoy. Understand totally why some don’t buy them and that they could move it to an online publication. I’d personally compromise and produce a slimmed down version to reduce costs but satisfy the likes of me who consider the programme as a great momento of attending a game.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 19, 2019 20:15:21 GMT 1
If they did stop production it would make them more of a collectors item and more valuable. At the moment the majority are worth less than the actual cost when bought new but it would hike up the price. Appreciate it isn’t about money, more sentimental and personal reasoning but the price of collections would increase.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jun 19, 2019 20:23:17 GMT 1
Bring back the newspaper programmes.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 19, 2019 20:35:09 GMT 1
Remember the pink paper on the train on way back from away games that had most of the scores in from games that had just finished.
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Post by sabailand on Jun 19, 2019 22:58:56 GMT 1
To me its always just been boring club propoganda, boring interviews, and action pics sequences/comments that makes it sounds like we were unlucky in a match where we got hammered. A folded piece of paper with the essentials would be fine, and it would be something for the collectors.
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Post by Jack on Jun 19, 2019 23:33:07 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted. I think you've just invented the clappergramme.
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Post by Phil Starbuck - Legend! on Jun 20, 2019 8:55:34 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted. I think you've just invented the clappergramme. Made me chuckle... but thinking about this, it’s a really good idea. Just put something worth reading on the clappers (chairman/manager column and a couple of other bits) and serve a dual purpose... keeping them free of course.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 21, 2019 1:13:28 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted. I think you've just invented the clappergramme. Clappergramme! That’s just brilliant.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 21, 2019 1:15:21 GMT 1
Remember the pink paper on the train on way back from away games that had most of the scores in from games that had just finished. Yes. Amazing given the available technology at the time, how they were able to put that paper together and distribute it so quickly.
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Post by benhomly on Jun 21, 2019 8:11:08 GMT 1
Remember the pink paper on the train on way back from away games that had most of the scores in from games that had just finished. Yes. Amazing given the available technology at the time, how they were able to put that paper together and distribute it so quickly. From the bygone days when perhaps making as much money as possible out of every single venture wasn't the primary objective?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 11:43:26 GMT 1
Was it pink, I thought it was green?!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 21, 2019 18:09:47 GMT 1
Was it pink, I thought it was green?! I’m sure there were “Pink Un’s” and “Green Un’s”
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Post by Marco4 on Jun 21, 2019 20:55:31 GMT 1
Single sheet of good quality, full-colour, double-sided A4. Maybe folded twice into leaflet format. Team news, chairman's message, bit about the opposition. Maybe a QR-code to access additional online content. Charge 50p to a quid, depending on production costs. Sorted. Like a cricket scorecard....🤔
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