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Post by Novakaine on Jul 13, 2019 16:38:48 GMT 1
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Post by linson on Jul 13, 2019 16:40:25 GMT 1
Streams down, anyone have anything? Apparently its only available to those that don't diss Diakhaby and/or tell other posters to grow up when they get their views challenged People can challenge all they want, no problem with that at all as I like the debate, it's just the childishness of the responses and that some people don't accept others opinions... So.... Do you have a stream? Pleeeeeeaaseeee š
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Post by worthy18 on Jul 13, 2019 16:42:20 GMT 1
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 13, 2019 16:43:49 GMT 1
Calm my tits - I'm not the one writing off a player's season 12 mins into a pre-season friendly! Where have I wrote him off? Donāt twist it. Said heās not good enough to start, his distribution isnāt great and the it wasnāt last season on loan. But tell me where Iāve said heās no chance this season? He wouldnāt be my 1st choice, not yet anyway. Your very next post Folk wanting his as number one or pushing to be this season, no bloody way for me. Nothing wrong with having that opinion - My main issue is that you have formulated this opinion 12 mins into a pre-season friendly.
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2019 16:45:27 GMT 1
Diakhaby so far - 3 passes, 0 accuracy. 3 dribbles, 0 successful. 2 shots, 1 blocked, 1 on target from 3 yds and it still hits the underside of the crossbar. He's scored and hassled though which is positive. Schofield looks like he's not ready Flo doesn't look up for it The midfield haven't had any control of the game whatsoever Grant has barely been involved Tactics and mentality are completely off, no one looks up for it at all. We're lucky to be 1 up. People will moan at me that this is only a friendly but this is what I've seen so far š¤·š»āāļø Just like last season then
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Post by belvoirterrier on Jul 13, 2019 16:48:14 GMT 1
As posted previously, having watched Schofield at Notts County a few times last season, from watching the first half today it is clear that his kicking has not improved at all. When will it be recognized that neither he or Coleman are currently nowhere near good enough for the Championship. Failure to address this before the start of the season will be regrettable. Please get an experienced Championship or better standard keeper in as a priority.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 13, 2019 16:49:56 GMT 1
1-0 FT the very definition of not playing well and winning! It definitely beats playing well and losing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 16:51:51 GMT 1
1-0 FT the very definition of not playing well and winning! Early days but we created nothing in this game. We defended very well and Elphick looks a very good addition.
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Tiro
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Post by Tiro on Jul 13, 2019 16:53:06 GMT 1
Yes we played poorly. Yes HSV created a lot.
But, we held out for a win against a very impressive HSV team. A win is a win. Like PH said, itās about getting back into the habit of football games and thriving on what that provides to the dressing room.
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2019 16:55:23 GMT 1
We do seem to be trying a counter-attacking style, but without the attacking bit... Or perhaps weāre just not good enough to retain possession for any length of time thus the opposition has more of the ball and we are restricted to counter attacks, all sounds similar to last season after Jan arrived. Still hopefully the one nil win will give them some confidence even though it sounds like we got outclassed for 90mins. Bit concerning really, Hamburg similar level but lost half their team after relegation I believe. Still theyāre a week ahead in pre season so at least thereās a straw to clutch.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 13, 2019 16:56:20 GMT 1
1-0 FT the very definition of not playing well and winning! thought pre season was the time to get all the glitches out and to build the team play and personal fitness etc.. is the Opposition 0 not a good thing? still have some comings and goings so todays team is as set in stone as the 'brexit date' promise? I am waiting to panic when there is something to panic about, I dont want to 'peak early'....where are some of our fellow posters going to go if the season starts very badly? A&E I remember a pre season where we looked great and talk was high of a big season coming up and the team and recruitment was lauded.. we were shit in the real games.
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Post by spyinthesky on Jul 13, 2019 16:56:26 GMT 1
Having not watched the game and occasionally reading this thread I have come to the conclusion that Schofield is to blame for winning 1-0
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Post by wigster on Jul 13, 2019 16:57:24 GMT 1
I thought at half-time it would be interesting to see how we played without Grant. Kachunga was the central striker, apparently.
I think their goalie had a goal kick to take in the final minutes, but apart from that, genuinely, needn't have been there.
If you thought we didn't look like scoring much last season,then so far, and I KNOW it's only a friendly, we've not looked remotely like changing that in the 3 matches on tour.
I won't go on - others might post more positively - but I didn't notice the new signings or youngsters. One or two of our new ones look out of their depth but it's unfair to name them, just from friendlies., Mooy was invisible again (unhappy or leaving?) and VLP did bugger all, about the same as Kachunga.
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2019 16:58:48 GMT 1
Yes we played poorly. Yes HSV created a lot. But, we held out for a win against a very impressive HSV team. A win is a win. Like PH said, itās about getting back into the habit of football games and thriving on what that provides to the dressing room. Thing is you donāt normally win when you get outclassed for 90 mins. Playing poorly just makes me worry that weāre going to get a continuation of last year with jan unable to get his ideas, style, organisation into the team. Iād much rather we played well in a friendly and lost 3 0 tbh. I hope it gives them some confidence at least. Early days obviously!
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Post by linson on Jul 13, 2019 16:59:05 GMT 1
Yawn yawn, so many babies on here it's laughable. No I don't have official stats, as I said it was just what I saw and no I didn't mention him getting fouled š¤·š»āāļø Just because I don't have the same opinion as some of you guys doesn't mean I have an agenda, etc. Grow up Thereās a difference between offering an opinion and offering bullshit facts to suit your opinion. Donāt cry and point the finger because your argument is a load of bollocks. In fact, donāt offer an opinion at all, on a public forum, if you donāt like being challenged, you baby. #fakenews I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down.
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Post by Tiro on Jul 13, 2019 16:59:25 GMT 1
As posted previously, having watched Schofield at Notts County a few times last season, from watching the first half today it is clear that his kicking has not improved at all. When will it be recognized that neither he or Coleman are currently nowhere near good enough for the Championship. Failure to address this before the start of the season will be regrettable. Please get an experienced Championship or better standard keeper in as a priority. How do you know itās hasn't? We should note that we are hammering two keepers after they have both kept clean sheets whilst under pressure. They may be good enough for the Champ with regards to shot stopping, they just maybe donāt suit our system with the call at their feet. But it stopping goals that I want them to do first, and weāve only conceded once in three games. We wonāt sign a new keeper until we ship out Hamer. So a few will have to get used to this. Again, āthree window transitionā and all that. Patience. šš
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 16:59:32 GMT 1
I thought at half-time it would be interesting to see how we played without Grant. Kachunga was the central striker, apparently. I think their goalie had a goal kick to take in the final minutes, but apart from that, genuinely, needn't have been there. If you thought we didn't look like scoring much last season,then so far, and I KNOW it's only a friendly, we've not looked remotely like changing that in the 3 matches on tour. I won't go on - others might post more positively - but I didn't notice the new signings or youngsters. One or two of our new ones look out of their depth but it's unfair to name them, just from friendlies., Mooy was invisible again (unhappy or leaving?) and VLP did bugger all, about the same as Kachunga. Must take into account the German teams are a week ahead of us in pre-season.
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 13, 2019 16:59:33 GMT 1
Played shit.. Won 1-0.. Works for me.. š
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 13, 2019 17:00:00 GMT 1
Thereās a difference between offering an opinion and offering bullshit facts to suit your opinion. Donāt cry and point the finger because your argument is a load of bollocks. In fact, donāt offer an opinion at all, on a public forum, if you donāt like being challenged, you baby. #fakenews I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down. Sexist
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Tiro
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Post by Tiro on Jul 13, 2019 17:01:03 GMT 1
Yes we played poorly. Yes HSV created a lot. But, we held out for a win against a very impressive HSV team. A win is a win. Like PH said, itās about getting back into the habit of football games and thriving on what that provides to the dressing room. Thing is you donāt normally win when you get outclassed for 90 mins. Playing poorly just makes me worry that weāre going to get a continuation of last year with jan unable to get his ideas, style, organisation into the team. Iād much rather we played well in a friendly and lost 3 0 tbh. I hope it gives them some confidence at least. Early days obviously!Ā You might well be right by December. But Iāll take it for now.
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Post by crux on Jul 13, 2019 17:02:38 GMT 1
We've won 2 and drawn 1 out of three games. The last time we did that was November 2018. I don't care how 'crap' we may have been, we've found a way to win games. The biggest issue that Siewert had to sort out was getting rid of the losing mentality, he appears to have done that. I realise it's pre-season and doesn't count for anything in terms of points, but can you imagine what 2 or 3 defeats would have done to the players confidence - as well as the total meltdown on DATM, Facebook and wherever else.
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Post by specialun on Jul 13, 2019 17:02:44 GMT 1
Yes we were outplayed (but won) but...
1. They were 4th in Bundesliga 2 2. Their season starts a week before ours
Should be a good exercise at this stage of pre season
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2019 17:03:13 GMT 1
Just waiting for Jan to come out and take full credit for the victory now.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 13, 2019 17:06:24 GMT 1
1-0 FT the very definition of not playing well and winning! Early days but we created nothing in this game. We defended very well and Elphick looks a very good addition. Apart from the goal, obviously? You're right though we created very little but looked good defensively. It's early in pre-season for us, 3 games in less than a week with intensive training sessions in between, we were never going to be free flowing & I'm sure the lads will be feeling it. The conditions weren't great & by the sounds of it the pitch wasn't great either. At this stage for us it's about getting minutes in to their legs, building fitness & getting a good camaraderie within the group. Results don't really matter in pre-season but after last season breaking the losing cycle & getting into the winning habit again can only be a good thing.
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Post by Tiro on Jul 13, 2019 17:10:39 GMT 1
Thereās a difference between offering an opinion and offering bullshit facts to suit your opinion. Donāt cry and point the finger because your argument is a load of bollocks. In fact, donāt offer an opinion at all, on a public forum, if you donāt like being challenged, you baby. #fakenews I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down. Wow. Dinosaur of a response that. But predictable for someone that canāt differentiate between fact and fiction. And youāre the one who has made two complaints about the childishness of peoples responses. Yeah, Diakhabyās my lover. Weāre saving for a wedding and reliant on him getting a pay rise to find it, so would appreciate the positive spin please š I couldnāt give a fuck about your thoughts on Diakhaby, to be honest Iām not a fan - he has a lot to prove. But my point was that you presented bullshit stats as fact, that really amounted to your thoughts, to suit your argument. All I did was ask you clarify if there was any substance to what you said. Turned out there wasnāt any and you youāve got upset because thatās been pointed out. š
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 13, 2019 17:13:21 GMT 1
Thereās a difference between offering an opinion and offering bullshit facts to suit your opinion. Donāt cry and point the finger because your argument is a load of bollocks. In fact, donāt offer an opinion at all, on a public forum, if you donāt like being challenged, you baby. #fakenews I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down. Weren't you calling people childish earlier? Jesus š¤
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Post by linson on Jul 13, 2019 17:15:55 GMT 1
I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down. Wow. Dinosaur of a response that. But predictable for someone that canāt differentiate between fact and fiction. And youāre the one who has made two complaints about the childishness of peoples responses. Yeah, Diakhabyās my lover. Weāre saving for a wedding and reliant on him getting a pay rise to find it, so would appreciate the positive spin please š I couldnāt give a fuck about your thoughts on Diakhaby, to be honest Iām not a fan - he has a lot to prove. But my point was that you presented bullshit stats as fact, that really amounted to your thoughts, to suit your argument. All I did was ask you clarify if there was any substance to what you said. Turned out there wasnāt any and you youāve got upset because thatās been pointed out. š This was the last line in my original post... "People will moan at me that this is only a friendly but this is what I've seen so far š¤·š»āāļø" I never presented it as fact, just what I saw and people jumped down my throat. And yes, I can be childish too when people repeatedly poke me š
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 13, 2019 17:20:57 GMT 1
Just waiting for Jan to come out and take full credit for the victory now. if we have a very good season under Jan, your heart will break... never had a 'bittersweet' victory for my team?? Still firmly believe he needs a chance with a team that wants to play for the shirt before the 'expert' critique means more than the square roof of fuck all.. sick to death of hearing all the bollox about 'we could see what Wagner was trying to do, when we were getting spanked by Brentford and others in the early days'.. We couldn't because he had not had the time or the players he wanted to work through the plans..We also were not on 12 match losing 'streak' and half the fucking squad had not given up already.. If he proves he can't get the results and to some extent the performances in a reasonable time with a reasonable chance then fair enough, scream 'I told you so'. Just bad mouthing him and hoping he fucks up means you lose your town for me..
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Post by sabailand on Jul 13, 2019 17:26:24 GMT 1
How any town fans at this game?
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Post by Tiro on Jul 13, 2019 17:35:27 GMT 1
How any town fans at this game? Dunno, but looked to well represented by both sides. Fair play to all. I never attend friendlies, but if they visit Austria (or similar) next year I may have to consider combining a holiday with the football.
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