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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 17:40:39 GMT 1
How any town fans at this game? Dunno, but looked to well represented by both sides. Fair play to all. I never attend friendlies, but if they visit Austria (or similar) next year I may have to consider combining a holiday with the football. Sounds like a way to spoil your holiday lol |
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Post by sabailand on Jul 13, 2019 17:41:11 GMT 1
How any town fans at this game? Dunno, but looked to well represented by both sides. Fair play to all. I never attend friendlies, but if they visit Austria (or similar) next year I may have to consider combining a holiday with the football. Only friendlies im ever interested in are if we`re playing at a new ground, basically friendlies bore me to death, but you`re right a trip to Austria would be good and you can make an holiday of it, and for me it would be a country i`ve never visited before. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 13, 2019 17:56:15 GMT 1
Defensively we've been excellent this trip, one freakish goal direct from a keeper error is all the opposition can show in 270 minutes of football.
The complaints of a lack of goalscorers in our team may have merit but those blasting us for that need to have balance and so far so good for us against teams who need to be almost ready for their seasons.
We know what we are going to get from Schindler and Kongolo, the new and particularly the young guys filling in haven't missed a beat and done better than advertised by some DATMer's.
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Post by terriers321 on Jul 13, 2019 18:05:34 GMT 1
How any town fans at this game? Dunno, but looked to well represented by both sides. Fair play to all. I never attend friendlies, but if they visit Austria (or similar) next year I may have to consider combining a holiday with the football. Somewhere like Spain or Portugal next pre season and id go with the other half. The football part would be kept quiet till we got there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 18:16:46 GMT 1
Where have I wrote him off? Don’t twist it. Said he’s not good enough to start, his distribution isn’t great and the it wasn’t last season on loan. But tell me where I’ve said he’s no chance this season? He wouldn’t be my 1st choice, not yet anyway. Your very next post Folk wanting his as number one or pushing to be this season, no bloody way for me. Nothing wrong with having that opinion - My main issue is that you have formulated this opinion 12 mins into a pre-season friendly. Yeah he isn’t a starter, if you think he is then fair play and good luck to us should he be. He’s a work in progress. And yes, no way is he number one, not for me. We need a very good and experienced one to help him along. He needs to practice his kicking and distribution and get in the gym. He will come good, just not this season for our first season back in the Championship. I don’t gather my info just off a friendly, he was a bit ropey at Notts County |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 13, 2019 18:29:09 GMT 1
We need a proper good keeper and pronto.
Hopefully club v can see it.
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Post by specialun on Jul 13, 2019 18:30:16 GMT 1
Defensively we've been excellent this trip, one freakish goal direct from a keeper error is all the opposition can show in 270 minutes of football. The complaints of a lack of goalscorers in our team may have merit but those blasting us for that need to have balance and so far so good for us against teams who need to be almost ready for their seasons. We know what we are going to get from Schindler and Kongolo, the new and particularly the young guys filling in haven't missed a beat and done better than advertised by some DATMer's. Good to get the clean sheets in - agreed But is it fair to say they could have had 3/4 on another day (reading the comments and from the parts of the game I saw) or is that unfair? |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 13, 2019 18:50:31 GMT 1
Defensively we've been excellent this trip, one freakish goal direct from a keeper error is all the opposition can show in 270 minutes of football. The complaints of a lack of goalscorers in our team may have merit but those blasting us for that need to have balance and so far so good for us against teams who need to be almost ready for their seasons. We know what we are going to get from Schindler and Kongolo, the new and particularly the young guys filling in haven't missed a beat and done better than advertised by some DATMer's. Good to get the clean sheets in - agreed But is it fair to say they could have had 3/4 on another day (reading the comments and from the parts of the game I saw) or is that unfair? they played very well and should have won the game. Worth bearing in mind they are much further on in their pre-season than us though.
The pitch was awful. Terrible.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 13, 2019 19:07:20 GMT 1
As posted previously, having watched Schofield at Notts County a few times last season, from watching the first half today it is clear that his kicking has not improved at all. When will it be recognized that neither he or Coleman are currently nowhere near good enough for the Championship. Failure to address this before the start of the season will be regrettable. Please get an experienced Championship or better standard keeper in as a priority. I saw Notts County away at Crawley near the end of the season and I have to agree with you. Looks like he still needs strengthening as well to me. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 13, 2019 19:12:55 GMT 1
As posted previously, having watched Schofield at Notts County a few times last season, from watching the first half today it is clear that his kicking has not improved at all. When will it be recognized that neither he or Coleman are currently nowhere near good enough for the Championship. Failure to address this before the start of the season will be regrettable. Please get an experienced Championship or better standard keeper in as a priority. When you say "when will it be recognised ..." etc .. it has been and we will get a keeper in |
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Post by linson on Jul 13, 2019 19:59:20 GMT 1
Just checked it out, Hamburg are a week further along in their preseason so it's not exactly massive.
Just for perfect clarity; that's my point of view and doesn't represent any official offices at all.
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Post by ACW on Jul 13, 2019 20:06:09 GMT 1
JS has stated that up to now we have been focusing on the defensive side of the game. From now on we will be sharpening up our attacking play, particularly ball possession and transitions. That would probably explain why we have created little, but remained relatively solid at the back.
I suspect we'll start to see our attacking play improving in the next few games. We won't start the season playing like we did today.
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Post by Melc on Jul 13, 2019 20:44:54 GMT 1
JS has stated that up to now we have been focusing on the defensive side of the game. From now on we will be sharpening up our attacking play, particularly ball possession and transitions. That would probably explain why we have created little, but remained relatively solid at the back. I suspect we'll start to see our attacking play improving in the next few games. We won't start the season playing like we did today. If professional footballers have to be shown how to attack during a game then it is time to give up. We have three weeks left to the season starting and we don’t have the noggin to attack or keep the ball? Looks more like we still have the same problems as last season to me! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 20:54:23 GMT 1
JS has stated that up to now we have been focusing on the defensive side of the game. From now on we will be sharpening up our attacking play, particularly ball possession and transitions. That would probably explain why we have created little, but remained relatively solid at the back. I suspect we'll start to see our attacking play improving in the next few games. We won't start the season playing like we did today. If professional footballers have to be shown how to attack during a game then it is time to give up. We have three weeks left to the season starting and we don’t have the noggin to attack or keep the ball? Looks more like we still have the same problems as last season to me! It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. |
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Post by Melc on Jul 13, 2019 21:03:28 GMT 1
If professional footballers have to be shown how to attack during a game then it is time to give up. We have three weeks left to the season starting and we don’t have the noggin to attack or keep the ball? Looks more like we still have the same problems as last season to me! It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. [br Not even got to the stage of picking up the towel. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 13, 2019 21:10:47 GMT 1
Just checked it out, Hamburg are a week further along in their preseason so it's not exactly massive. Just for perfect clarity; that's my point of view and doesn't represent any official offices at all. . Their season starts a week before ours so it's not rocket science to suggest they're a week further ahead in pre-season. A week is a long time in pre-season, they've played 2 more games & a full week longer on the training ground. They'll be fine tuning things whilst we'll still be working on base fitness. If you think we should be at the same level at this stage then you really have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 13, 2019 21:30:34 GMT 1
Just checked it out, Hamburg are a week further along in their preseason so it's not exactly massive. Just for perfect clarity; that's my point of view and doesn't represent any official offices at all. and they lost to us today?? the point of every first team professional game be it a friendly or otherwise is to win it.. winning games does not in any way alter the fact that the manager and staff will have seen all the bad points as well as the good ones but working on a winning team is easier than doing the same on a losing one.. I watched Fulham play really well in many games last season, playing shit but keeping a clean sheet would have been a bonus for them. the best teams have the most dedicated 'five a side, or head tennis etc' teams in training.. gotta hate losing whatever the game or the prize is.. We didnt score many last year, not sure that is going to change overnight, best we become very hard to score against so we have a better chance of winning a few games and get the season and the team and the confidence going.. |
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Post by slackjaw on Jul 13, 2019 21:50:42 GMT 1
If professional footballers have to be shown how to attack during a game then it is time to give up. We have three weeks left to the season starting and we don’t have the noggin to attack or keep the ball? Looks more like we still have the same problems as last season to me! It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 13, 2019 21:59:02 GMT 1
It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove Totally agree with this post. When I see one sign of him improving us I’ll be more positive about him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 21:59:28 GMT 1
It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove You call that fair? Aye ok then. 🙄 |
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Post by slackjaw on Jul 13, 2019 22:02:21 GMT 1
To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove You call that fair? Aye ok then. 🙄 Yes absolutely,tell me where he improved us? We got worse Or was it all just a little bit too much for him? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 22:09:19 GMT 1
You call that fair? Aye ok then. 🙄 Yes absolutely,tell me where he improved us? We got worse Or was it all just a little bit too much for him? My post was in reply to Melc who didn't seem to think coaching was necessary as they're professionals. You want to know how he's improved us? How about an unbeaten start to pre season and see how it goes. Oh, they obviously don't count. Suggest wait and see how we fair against proper footballers eh? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 13, 2019 22:10:21 GMT 1
It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove The season was down the pan before he arrived. His approach upon arriving turned a few against him which made his task even harder but at least it exposed those types who we don't want at the club I don't think you can judge him on last season when the players were so short of confidence and up against better players most weeks. There we some promising signs in some games such as Wolves, Arsenal, Everton, West Ham, Man Utd and Southampton I'm hopeful everyone will be speaking about him differently in a few months time |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 22:16:06 GMT 1
To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove The season was down the pan before he arrived. His approach upon arriving turned a few against him which made his task even harder but at least it exposed those types who we don't want at the club I don't think you can judge him on last season when the players were so short of confidence and up against better players most weeks. There we some promising signs in some games such as Wolves, Arsenal, Everton, West Ham, Man Utd and Southampton I'm hopeful everyone will be speaking about him differently in a few months time You wouldn't think that would need reiterating umpteen times. |
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Post by hd2 on Jul 13, 2019 22:24:31 GMT 1
I fell asleep at half time and when I woke up it’d finished.   |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 13, 2019 22:26:25 GMT 1
I saw him try to pass the ball 5 yards 3 times and each time he failed. I didn't see him pass again at all. I saw him try to dribble and he failed every time. People trying to cling to the fact that he got fouled and we produced something from that says more about you and your pathetically low expectations than it does about anything else. Just because your boyfriend isn't playing well doesn't mean you have to defend him at all costs. Put your tampon back in mate and pipe down. Sexist I dunno about sexist, wanker came to mind |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 13, 2019 22:29:38 GMT 1
It's called coaching, or do you think on turning professional at 17 that's no longer needed? Let's see how good Sievert is at HIS JOB before we throw the towel in. To be fair JS has already had half a season of getting thrashed or doesn’t that count because he was in the big boys league. I’m still awaiting this coach to make our players better,so far he’s made it worse I’d go as far to say it’s been embarrassing. Still he’s a young coach and apparently great at teaching youth team players,I suspect that’s his level. I’m assuming he took the role knowing he would start at PL level for me he’s got a hell of lot to prove Before he took over the team they had 1 point from the previous 10 games, 7 of those teams finished in the bottom 10. They'd won 3 in 33 premier league games & lost to Stoke & Bristol city in the cups. The team was practically relegated with confidence at rock bottom. Of his 15 games he had to play 9 of the top 10. We'd already played Fulham, Cardiff & Burnley twice. Some players had downed tools, these players DH branded a disgrace & needed weeding out. Jan spent the rest of the season trying to implement a new formation whilst looking at players to build for the coming season. If things haven't improved by October/November time then he won't cut it but to judge him on last season is just ridiculous. Edit; In like for like fixtures last season Wagner & Jan got exactly the same amount of points so to say things got alot worse is wrong & unfair. |
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2019 23:28:06 GMT 1
Just waiting for Jan to come out and take full credit for the victory now. if we have a very good season under Jan, your heart will break...  never had a 'bittersweet' victory for my team?? Still firmly believe he needs a chance with a team that wants to play for the shirt before the 'expert' critique means more than the square roof of fuck all.. sick to death of hearing all the bollox about 'we could see what Wagner was trying to do, when we were getting spanked by Brentford and others in the early days'.. We couldn't because he had not had the time or the players he wanted to work through the plans..We also were not on 12 match losing 'streak' and half the fucking squad had not given up already.. If he proves he can't get the results and to some extent the performances in a reasonable time with a reasonable chance then fair enough, scream 'I told you so'. Just bad mouthing him and hoping he fucks up means you lose your town for me.. Not really sure what you’re on about, as per. i don’t have much faith in jan but desperately hope he succeeds. didnt watch today so relying on others but it just sounds familiar. Im not one to bury my head in the sand like some on here and I’m usually a reasonable judge, trust me I hope I’ve got jan wrong and was looking forward to some green shoots. Hearing today’s summary is a bit depressing but v early days obviously. I did find his post match comments pretty ridiculous last season hence my post  |
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Post by Melc on Jul 14, 2019 0:03:12 GMT 1
Yes absolutely,tell me where he improved us? We got worse Or was it all just a little bit too much for him? My post was in reply to Melc who didn't seem to think coaching was necessary as they're professionals. You want to know how he's improved us? How about an unbeaten start to pre season and see how it goes. Oh, they obviously don't count. Suggest wait and see how we fair against proper footballers eh? I do think coaching is necessary to improve on certain aspects of players weaknesses, but as for the basics players learn that from a young age. Maybe i am being to negative, but Siewert just does not fill me with any confidence that we will be any different this time round, but time will tell and i really do hope i am wrong! |
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Post by linson on Jul 14, 2019 0:30:49 GMT 1
I dunno about sexist, wanker came to mind Nah, you've come in half way and made assumptions. Neither of these clowns read my original post properly, then extrapolated and attacked me because they're bigoted and can't read, before getting salty about me biting back but now I'm the bad guy. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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never had a 'bittersweet' victory for my team??