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Post by kayeb222 on Jul 15, 2019 20:18:15 GMT 1
Good player for us but probably right time to move both for him an the club. Does everyone think the same??
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 15, 2019 20:44:21 GMT 1
Are you related to greyarea?
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Post by deightonrifle on Jul 15, 2019 21:18:41 GMT 1
IMO Tommy's been great for Town. Very committed, solid defensively, strong in the tackle, and then added attacking side to his game, developing a great relationship with Kache in the promotion season, and becoming a good crosser of the ball. In the premier he just lacked half a yard of pace but I thought he was still decent. Showed his character and leadership qualities as captain.
He's at the ideal age, has great experience and I think he'll be a real loss to us and gain to Stoke. But if he wanted to make the change and we've banked a decent fee, then fair enough.
Very classy message on instagram. I'd like to thank Tommy and wish him all the best for the future
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 15, 2019 22:38:21 GMT 1
PH said tonight that Tommy’s head had been turned by the interest and wanted a new challenge.
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Post by est1908 on Jul 15, 2019 22:38:24 GMT 1
Good player for us but probably right time to move both for him an the club. Does everyone think the same?? I'm going to start a kayeb seeks attention thread....I might pop a poll on it aswell! |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 15, 2019 22:45:47 GMT 1
Good player for us but probably right time to move both for him an the club. Does everyone think the same?? I'm going to start a kayeb seeks attention thread....I might pop a poll on it aswell! Attention Grabara? |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 15, 2019 23:17:09 GMT 1
I liked the guy.... but he was like lossl, when a goal went In he would bollock everyone around him as though he had done his job, even if half the time he hadn't.
Dont actually think we will miss him ability wise, but he offered good experience and seemed at least from the outside a very professional ENGLISH role model to the younger players.
I wish him all the best.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Jul 16, 2019 7:41:31 GMT 1
Good luck Tommy, you will always be a Terrier. That goal at Rotherham was one of the magic moments of our promotion season.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 7:52:33 GMT 1
I liked the guy.... but he was like lossl, when a goal went In he would bollock everyone around him as though he had done his job, even if half the time he hadn't. Dont actually think we will miss him ability wise, but he offered good experience and seemed at least from the outside a very professional ENGLISH role model to the younger players. I wish him all the best. When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 16, 2019 8:27:28 GMT 1
I liked the guy.... but he was like lossl, when a goal went In he would bollock everyone around him as though he had done his job, even if half the time he hadn't. Dont actually think we will miss him ability wise, but he offered good experience and seemed at least from the outside a very professional ENGLISH role model to the younger players. I wish him all the best. When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving Dont disagree with that, but flo was generally 1st choice for the past two seasons, so we have swapped smith as back-up for bockhorn as back-up and about 3.5m quid. At the moment it's the same starting 11 that finished last season with the exception of Hamer/lossl replaced with grabber and louwe for kongolo. Elphick for kongolo at CB then you could argue the starting 11 has been strengthened slightly. The cover players are the ones who have really been decimated, potentially anyway. We have lost some good experienced players, but most of whom expressed a desire to leave at the first sign of adversity, they are not the characters you need, they are the mercenary players, looking for an easier payday elsewhere. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:34:32 GMT 1
When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving Dont disagree with that, but flo was generally 1st choice for the past two seasons, so we have swapped smith as back-up for bockhorn as back-up and about 3.5m quid. At the moment it's the same starting 11 that finished last season with the exception of Hamer/lossl replaced with grabber and louwe for kongolo. Elphick for kongolo at CB then you could argue the starting 11 has been strengthened slightly. The cover players are the ones who have really been decimated, potentially anyway. We have lost some good experienced players, but most of whom expressed a desire to leave at the first sign of adversity, they are not the characters you need, they are the mercenary players, looking for an easier payday elsewhere. So (please answer honestly) you think flo will be a bigger asset for us at right back than smith would have been ? And as for "bockhorn plus 3.5m" .. if bockhorn isn't as good as smith then surely that's immaterial as I've never seen 3.5 million in 50 pound notes kick a ball around Now I'm not saying it was avoidable, or even that it wasn't good business . Bit I struggle to see how it doesn't leave us weaker on the pitch |
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Post by captainblack on Jul 16, 2019 8:59:56 GMT 1
I am sorry to see Tommy Smith leave , a very solid and
dependable player , especially in the Championship ,
which some forget is where we are now.
I do not blame Smith for leaving whatever the reasons ,
lets be honest if someone offered you an extra 5-6 grand
a week who would stay in their respective jobs , probably
nobody.Good luck for the future with Stoke City , and thanks.
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Post by iangreaves on Jul 16, 2019 9:17:19 GMT 1
When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving Dont disagree with that, but flo was generally 1st choice for the past two seasons, so we have swapped smith as back-up for bockhorn as back-up and about 3.5m quid. At the moment it's the same starting 11 that finished last season with the exception of Hamer/lossl replaced with grabber and louwe for kongolo. Elphick for kongolo at CB then you could argue the starting 11 has been strengthened slightly. The cover players are the ones who have really been decimated, potentially anyway. We have lost some good experienced players, but most of whom expressed a desire to leave at the first sign of adversity, they are not the characters you need, they are the mercenary players, looking for an easier payday elsewhere. Wasn’t Flo one who spoke publicly about leaving the club? Would be interesting to know what’s happened there. Zanka has been told he won’t play for us again for doing the same. |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jul 16, 2019 9:20:22 GMT 1
Sad to see him leave, he played a big part in our promotion season at both ends of the pitch, I wish him well apart from 2 obvious games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 9:35:53 GMT 1
Sad to see him leave, he played a big part in our promotion season at both ends of the pitch, I wish him well apart from 2 obvious games. gree a good lad for this club both on and off the field |
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 16, 2019 10:01:44 GMT 1
I’ll be sorry to see Tommy Smith go, I wish he would of stayed. If he wanted to leave I wish he’d of said before the last home game of last season so we could of given him a goodbye from the stands. A solid pro who carried himself well. Never struggled to find time to give to the kids of Huddersfield. Very much a Town Foundation icon. I wish him all the best and luck for the future.
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Post by space hardware on Jul 16, 2019 10:19:19 GMT 1
Dont disagree with that, but flo was generally 1st choice for the past two seasons, so we have swapped smith as back-up for bockhorn as back-up and about 3.5m quid. At the moment it's the same starting 11 that finished last season with the exception of Hamer/lossl replaced with grabber and louwe for kongolo. Elphick for kongolo at CB then you could argue the starting 11 has been strengthened slightly. The cover players are the ones who have really been decimated, potentially anyway. We have lost some good experienced players, but most of whom expressed a desire to leave at the first sign of adversity, they are not the characters you need, they are the mercenary players, looking for an easier payday elsewhere. So (please answer honestly) you think flo will be a bigger asset for us at right back than smith would have been ? And as for "bockhorn plus 3.5m" .. if bockhorn isn't as good as smith then surely that's immaterial as I've never seen 3.5 million in 50 pound notes kick a ball around Now I'm not saying it was avoidable, or even that it wasn't good business . Bit I struggle to see how it doesn't leave us weaker on the pitch The inference here is that we won't miss a guy who got into the Championship Team of The Season the last time we were in that league because he'd only have been back up to Flo (who, let's be honest, might not be up to the rigours of Championship football based on him being piss weak). Not only that, his "replacement" as back up to Flo is a cheap unknown from the German 4th/5th Division. I can't see how anyone could think this is good business, on or off the pitch, particularly if the £3.5m net income has gone straight into Skint Phil's sky rocket*. * only joking |
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Post by Hank Hill on Jul 16, 2019 11:49:11 GMT 1
PH said tonight that Tommy’s head had been turned by the interest and wanted a new challenge. As much as I wanted him to stay it's fair enough, he has been here since 2012. Like any job, some people like the security, some people need to move on if they feel they need to progress. Good luck Tommy! |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 16, 2019 17:37:54 GMT 1
4m is very good money for tommy
Wasn’t very good when we struggled before Wagner then had a great season during the promotion year but once in the prem and we struggled he resorted to his old days. Passed sideways and backwards non stop
Good luck to the lad but not too bothered he’s going
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Post by bogart on Jul 16, 2019 19:50:31 GMT 1
4m you must be in the know then.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 16, 2019 19:56:00 GMT 1
Very sad to see him leave. Proved himself to be a very good full back at championship level so will be hard to replace, especially if we only have the money from selling him to do it with.
We'll also miss his experience and leadership.
Please let the new german be better than Flo!!
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Post by crux on Jul 16, 2019 20:03:50 GMT 1
Good luck to Tommy, it's no doubt a good deal for him financially and an excellent deal for us. Somewhere around £4m for a player entering the last year of his contract at our level is good money for a full back. Personally I think his best position is either right side of a back three, or as a defensive full back. Yes I know in the promotion season he spent a lot of time attacking, but he didn't have to get back quickly to defend as much as he would have to in a 4-3-3 setup. I'm still looking at the Liverpool 4-3-3 as the way Jan wants to play and I can't see Tommy having the pace to make the same sorts of runs as Trent Alexander-Arnold makes. I can see Flo making the runs, but at the moment I'm not convinced he'll do anything other than fall over when he gets to the point of delivery though  |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 16, 2019 20:08:52 GMT 1
Solid pro but all this eulogising is way over the top for a defender who had poor positional sense and wasn't all that great at defending. It does leave us short in that position though.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 20:12:39 GMT 1
Solid pro but all this eulogising is way over the top for a defender who had poor positional sense and wasn't all that great at defending. It does leave us short in that position though. Do you think he was poor positionally and not all that great at defending the year we got promoted? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jul 16, 2019 20:19:03 GMT 1
I liked the guy.... but he was like lossl, when a goal went In he would bollock everyone around him as though he had done his job, even if half the time he hadn't. Dont actually think we will miss him ability wise, but he offered good experience and seemed at least from the outside a very professional ENGLISH role model to the younger players. I wish him all the best. When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving Thats a lot of a myth for me. We were winning and dominating teams, it lasted about 20 matches...he looked good as we were defending less. He was energetic and loved to bomb forward with pace...some good crossing. The truth was he could not control a ball...always bounced off him. Could not trap a bag of cement...and that was what Butterfield meant. This was the time he got the captaincy...and didn't he get voted in to the Division team of the season? Thanks a lot Tommy...a stalwart. Good money and we wont miss him though. Another bang average footballer is a superstar multi-millionaire...what is new? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 20:21:55 GMT 1
Solid pro but all this eulogising is way over the top for a defender who had poor positional sense and wasn't all that great at defending. It does leave us short in that position though. I know you are a serial moaner and I have kind of got used to that but how can you come out with something like that for a footballer who played 200 games for Town? If that were true he would not have played all those games and become team captain. Please just save your awful negativity for if and when it goes pear shaped this season. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jul 16, 2019 20:25:42 GMT 1
Well, we are now a selling club and it's like it was in the old days - anyone half decent will be sold even to a rival team, if we get what seems like a good offer.
But hey we've made £3.5m profit with the replacement coming in, even if like Ted says, it's somewhat unlikely we'll see that £3.5m actually kick a ball around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 20:28:23 GMT 1
When you say we won't.miss him ability wise. Id say the last time we were in the championship he was as good as anyone in the division. Hes also someone who you can rely on 100% to have a good attitude on the field.My question is which right back do we now have at the club who is likely to be as good as anything in the division? Because if there is no one then surely we are instantly weakened . It's a good move for smith and maybe there was nothing we could do about it. But I don't see how we are not weakened by him leaving Thats a lot of a myth for me. We were winning and dominating teams, it lasted about 20 matches...he looked good as we were defending less. He was energetic and loved to bomb forward with pace...some good crossing. The truth was he could not control a ball...always bounced off him. Could not trap a bag of cement... and that was what Butterfield meant. This was the time he got the captaincy...and didn't he get voted in to the Division team of the season? Thanks a lot Tommy...a stalwart. Good money and we wont miss him though. Another bang average footballer is a superstar multi-millionaire...what is new? That will be the Butterfield who got loaned to a relegated Bradford City last season commenting on Tommy Smith who has just been sold for £4 million to Stoke City. Well that's one you can take to the bank then. |
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Post by mightytj on Jul 16, 2019 20:43:41 GMT 1
I’ll miss his marauding runs forward, him standing on the ball and then passing it backwards, I’ll also miss his dire defensive positional sense, good luck Tommy, like Ted says you were quite the stand out defender in our promotion season (I didn’t think so by the way).
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Post by mightytj on Jul 16, 2019 20:47:03 GMT 1
Well, we are now a selling club and it's like it was in the old days - anyone half decent will be sold even to a rival team, if we get what seems like a good offer. But hey we've made £3.5m profit with the replacement coming in, even if like Ted says, it's somewhat unlikely we'll see that £3.5m actually kick a ball around. Which bit of his head was turned and he wanted to leave did you not get? |
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