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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 22:18:56 GMT 1
Where as in League 2 I think...I don't give a shit Good job we’re discussing the Championship then 😉 Loving your current Terrier rating. Whichever admin did that, hats off. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 1, 2019 22:26:08 GMT 1
I would say somewhere between 4th and 18th. Too many unknowns the primary one being the manager and his tactics. Also not sure we have strengthened everywhere we should and could be relying too heavily on Grant for goals. Hopefully Mounie can be more effective in that area to give Grant a rest and cover any injuries. Optimistic but not excited, honestly not too bothered about promotion this year but would like us to have a solid year and finish top 10 without ever looking like relegation could be a possibility. Worst thing about relegation from the Premier League, I will be back to trying to watch on dodgy streams and probably won't see many games as a result. Best thing, we should be able to compete a lot better than the last 2 seasons. ‘Somewhere between 4th and 18th’ You’ve really nailed your colors to the mast there! 😉 This guy's arse must be full of splinters all that fence sitting. |
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Post by thrice on Aug 1, 2019 22:56:32 GMT 1
God knows!
I’m really excited to have seemingly kept the calibre of players that we have but also bricking it. Getting off to a flyer on Monday is already imperative. Buckle up...
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Post by Dillinger on Aug 2, 2019 11:08:48 GMT 1
Think the summer business has been more about who we've kept than brought in, i'll be shocked if we keep hold of Mooy and Schindler. If we do, with the current squad i think we should definitely be looking for play-offs.
That said, new tough division, JS a bit of an unknown quantity so still alot of unknowns. Genuine prediction, we'll finish top half. Really looking forward to it getting underway now though, from Christmas onwards last season it was pretty difficult watching..
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 2, 2019 11:12:23 GMT 1
I'm quite enjoying the fact that all the stuff in the wider media is focusing on the usual suspects, Fulham, Leeds.
They seem to forget that Fulham weren't much better than us last yr & them 'ripping up the division' to get promoted, only saw them promoted via the play-offs, then relegated.
Proves how perception is massive in football, old London club etc.
I've nothing other than optimism for Town, as I do at the start of every season - never got the point of being negative or measured, unless you've got money wagered on the outcome...
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Post by canuckterrier on Aug 2, 2019 11:17:29 GMT 1
Keep the current squad, bouncing around between 8th and 4th. Lose one or more of our top 4 players then mid pack.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 13:10:10 GMT 1
‘Somewhere between 4th and 18th’ You’ve really nailed your colors to the mast there! 😉 This guy's arse must be full of splinters all that fence sitting. In my defense its because I have no belief in JS, yet. I know he came into a shit situation last year but at no point did it look like he was capable of doing anything about it. I truly hope I am wrong, my optimistic side says the team is good enough if we keep hold of Mooy and Schindler that we will do ok, possibly very well. At the same time I can't help worrying that Jan is unbelievably out of his depth and could scupper the whole thing. I am afraid only time will tell on Jan but his inexperience showed a lot last season. So yeah I am on the fence but I think anyone making bold predictions at this point is just guessing. Could easily go either way and I think 10th would be a very good result for Town this season. |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 2, 2019 13:14:13 GMT 1
Top 10 minimum expectation.
If we can get in and amongst the top 6 a total bonus.
Anything is better than the clusterfuck car crash that was last season....
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Post by dugnet on Aug 2, 2019 13:33:34 GMT 1
Another season and in reality a season where I don't think any of us really know what to expect. I would be very disappointed, not to say concerned, if we struggled in the next 9 months however I would not be bold enough to say that we should be looking to challenge for the top 6.
We have a coach that at best we are unsure of how capable he is (he is certainly full of self confidence and energy) and at worst we are wary about both his tactical prowess and his man management skills. We have a squad that has retained, to date, much of the quality and added/brought through some young potential. The chance to let the past challenging 12 months go, draw a line and go again is there. The question is will that chance be taken or is there still a overhang from the past year?
Provided our senior players are committed and are motivated to the challenges of what is a relentless and tough league then there is a chance we can start moving significantly in the right direction. If however there are any of these players who would have preferred a move, and in some cases understandably, it could be that the motivation levels may suffer.
Assuming that Siewert, and his team, have created a new culture and atmosphere in the dressing room there is little doubt that at this level we possess quality that could take us to a top 6 challenge. I would however note that we do seem to be lacking a little at left back and up front.
Behind the scenes our new chairman has made great strides in presenting and establishing himself in a relatively short period of time. Questions still remain about the future financial backing that he can provide but for the next 12 months our parachute payments and squad value allows us to be optimistic. In the, some may say likely, event we do not return to the Premier League there are longer term questions about what level of budget we will have to work on in Hodgkinson years 2, 3, 4. The other disadvantage PH has is that he isn't Dean Hoyle. In the same way that Jan Siwert wasn't, and isn't, David Wagner PH has to create his own legacy. He currently has no credit in the bank, other than clearly being a fan and very open. If things do not go well he will be under, perhaps unfair, scrutiny.
The club has a whole should be in a position to move forward positively from what have been 3 years of success (the last year still provided financial benefits and exposure) and really must look to build on the foundations we now have. If in 5 years we are once again a struggling Championship team, or have returned to League 1 then an opportunity has been missed. In a league that is undoubtedly tough there are many "big" clubs who have significant financial pressures which we don't and that all alone is something we need to take advantage of.
As far as playing styles, selections and individual quality is concerned I don't think we can take much from the pre-season other than not getting beaten is never a bad thing. By the time September arrives we will have an idea about what we can realistically expect from the season. Winning a few games maybe a welcome relief in the short term but longer term if there is a chance to progress in the season we need to take it, here's hoping we are all looking up with hope again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 11:50:26 GMT 1
Been a few ramblings on various threads, about if people are content with the squad and where they think we'll finish. Thought I'd consolidate it on to one thread - If no more changes occur, are you disappointed, satisfied, delighted etc. with the current squad? In addition, for a bit of fun, if you had to stick 100 quid on where Town will finish, what would you predict? I have been asked this from my non-supporting colleagues & friends over the past week - me personally, I really don't know what to expect (which is part of the excitement). As it stands, we've kept hold of some players I'd have been adamant we would've lost, signed shrewdly but nobody to turn heads e.g. a Cavaleiro type, have players that we have no idea what to expect at this level (Diakhaby, Mbenza) and despite what seems on the face of it a great pre-season, still a manager that has yet to prove competitively what he's about and is relatively an unknown quantity. On paper, we have without a doubt a team that can be top 6, but it's always a big task rejuvenating a squad who were so low on confidence & evidently some players who didn't warm to the new manager. Hence, why we could be promoted automatically or still be bottom half - a lot of unknown factors. That being said, the morale and cohesion looks to be back in place and that has been integral to our success in the former years. Like a few on here, I personally would play Kongolo at CB - frightening partnership of him & Schindler at this level. Then I think we lack two quality fullbacks and would ideally bring in a RB & LB. We've lost Smith, Flo just doesn't do it for me and then Bockhorn I think would be a solid back-up for both fullbacks (too early to judge, but would be surprised if he sets the league alight). Therefore, if Kongolo gets injured we are lacking a solid LB and haven't replaced Lowe. So they're two positions I'd like to bring in, whether that's loans or permanents - think that'd fill me with more confidence of top 6 if we could sort that. Wingers is also a strange one. As I alluded to - Diakhaby & Mbenza could be immense at this level - they're very raw and obviously have talent to demand us to bring them in at PL level. But will they do it consistently at this level? Pritch very capable of doing it in the champ, but is he an out and out winger? VLP we all know his strengths and his weaknesses and so on. CM's - Hogg, Mooy, Bacuna with Brown, O'Brien, Daly as back up - very happy with that. Grant & Grabara two places I'm also pleased with. So, after a bit of waffling - the icing on the cake for me would be a few more fullbacks and then save some of the Billing, Zanka & Smith money to go after a quality winger in January, if we are challenging and the wingers haven't contributed as effectively as we'd want, like the last few years. Prediction - 8th. Fire away ladies & gentlemen, let's hear your thoughts less than a week away. Why not join the PL manned by Cannuckterrier ?the more the merrier . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 12:08:35 GMT 1
I would’ve liked for us to have shown more ambition this summer both in the transfer market and the noises coming out of the club. We’ve done the quiet, under the radar, little old hudds routine. We’re competitive with anyone in the Championship now. We’ve kept the squad together well so I really don’t known who we’re supposed to be fearing. For us to not even talk of promotion is either very shrewd or very negative, hopefully the former. Championship winners have goalscorers. We’ve actually finally bloody got one! At this level we might even have 2!
We already know how good our midfield and central defence is- they are proven.
If we start off with some goals in Monday then 6/1 for promotion as we currently are, will be very good odds indeed.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 3, 2019 12:25:35 GMT 1
I would’ve liked for us to have shown more ambition this summer both in the transfer market and the noises coming out of the club. We’ve done the quiet, under the radar, little old hudds routine. We’re competitive with anyone in the Championship now. We’ve kept the squad together well so I really don’t known who we’re supposed to be fearing. For us to not even talk of promotion is either very shrewd or very negative, hopefully the former. Championship winners have goalscorers. We’ve actually finally bloody got one! At this level we might even have 2! We already know how good our midfield and central defence is- they are proven. If we start off with some goals in Monday then 6/1 for promotion as we currently are, will be very good odds indeed. It’s been a great transfer window keeping the likes of Mooy, Schindler, Grant, Bacuna, Hogg. Keeping hold of players is as important as buying. I agree about a striker, depends how Mounie does I suppose. |
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Post by artysid on Aug 3, 2019 12:26:03 GMT 1
1. Cardiff 2. Fulham — 3. Preston 4. Leeds 5. West Brom 6. Brentford I think Town may start slowly and end up sacking Siewert by October time. Then push on after that and finish around 10th. Good luck for the new season Bilo. One of the few on here who always wants you to do well (apart from when you play us). - If my grandad had had his way I'd have been a bantam  |
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Post by thongsbridge on Aug 3, 2019 12:36:33 GMT 1
It all seems a bit half baked at the moment. Trying to hold on to the two or three that are capable of playing at a higher level, but not be really investing in the team for a serious push for a quick return.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 3, 2019 12:47:30 GMT 1
It all seems a bit half baked at the moment. Trying to hold on to the two or three that are capable of playing at a higher level, but not be really investing in the team for a serious push for a quick return. See Bury thread. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 3, 2019 13:03:15 GMT 1
Just been talking to 4 Villa fans prior to their friendly game in Leipzig this aft, and they were very surprised when I told them I was expecting Town to do well this season. They were less than impressed with our getting Tommy Elphick, who they said was slow and too one(left) footed. They didn't reckon a lot to our chances, but were prepared to tip us as an outside bet after I reminded them who we've managed to keep hold of.
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Aug 3, 2019 20:51:25 GMT 1
1. Cardiff 2. Fulham — 3. Preston 4. Leeds 5. West Brom 6. Brentford I think Town may start slowly and end up sacking Siewert by October time. Then push on after that and finish around 10th. Good luck for the new season Bilo. One of the few on here who always wants you to do well (apart from when you play us). - If my grandad had had his way I'd have been a bantam Cheers mate. Frustrating opening day for us but I’m sure things will improve. Could really do with a fully fit Scannell. With Vaughan and Donaldson, we must be in for a good season. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 4, 2019 0:00:13 GMT 1
Good luck for the new season Bilo. One of the few on here who always wants you to do well (apart from when you play us). - If my grandad had had his way I'd have been a bantam Cheers mate. Frustrating opening day for us but I’m sure things will improve. Could really do with a fully fit Scannell. With Vaughan and Donaldson, we must be in for a good season. Yeah, I think you will be safe from having to apply for re-election. They still do that down there don't they? |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 4, 2019 7:16:57 GMT 1
I am usually pretty positive about our chances pre season
however I cannot make my mind up this season , its unknown
territory again. It has been a real bonus to have managed
to keep some of our more talented players (so far) and
my guess is that we will do relatively well.
The Championship is a tough division and I just hope Jan
gets off to a positive start this season or the pressure
is really going to be on the guy after last season.
If we were to finish in the top half of the league
I will be quite satisfied , but I would love to be
proved totally wrong and Town win promotion .UTT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2019 9:35:43 GMT 1
I would’ve liked for us to have shown more ambition this summer both in the transfer market and the noises coming out of the club. We’ve done the quiet, under the radar, little old hudds routine. We’re competitive with anyone in the Championship now. We’ve kept the squad together well so I really don’t known who we’re supposed to be fearing. For us to not even talk of promotion is either very shrewd or very negative, hopefully the former. Championship winners have goalscorers. We’ve actually finally bloody got one! At this level we might even have 2! We already know how good our midfield and central defence is- they are proven. If we start off with some goals in Monday then 6/1 for promotion as we currently are, will be very good odds indeed. It’s been a great transfer window keeping the likes of Mooy, Schindler, Grant, Bacuna, Hogg. Keeping hold of players is as important as buying. I agree about a striker, depends how Mounie does I suppose. It’s creative delivery I fear we lack, now that we’ve hopefully kept Grant. |
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Post by zoso on Aug 4, 2019 9:59:27 GMT 1
1. Cardiff 2. Fulham — 3. Preston 4. Leeds 5. West Brom 6. Brentford I think Town may start slowly and end up sacking Siewert by October time. Then push on after that and finish around 10th. Good luck for the new season Bilo. One of the few on here who always wants you to do well (apart from when you play us). - If my grandad had had his way I'd have been a bantam Jesus..... You managed to dodge one there.....  |
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Post by On the Sidelines on Aug 4, 2019 10:10:57 GMT 1
If we are in the top half at Christmas we could be a good bet for a top 6 finish if we can add to the squad in January with a couple of good signings or loans. If we lose any of the core team in January I think we could fade away. A strong keeper this year could make us difficult to beat this season, and hopefully we can re-build a winning home record, making the JSS a ground teams don’t enjoying visiting.
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Post by artysid on Aug 4, 2019 11:15:24 GMT 1
Difficult to say at the moment.
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Post by andygolcar on Aug 4, 2019 12:03:01 GMT 1
Only have to see yesterday’s results from Cardiff n Fulham to see this division is tough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 11:52:12 GMT 1
I'm confident.
Top six, beaten play-off semi-finalists. Real promotion push the following season.
Can't wait.
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Post by terrier86 on Aug 5, 2019 12:38:02 GMT 1
The squad is good enough currently for top 6, but is Siewert? The jury is still out.
The defence and keeper is probably as good as anything in this league. Then Hogg, Mooy and Bacuna will take some beating as will Grant up front.
The only has question marks are the wide areas and a backup for Grant.
I will go for 4th.
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Aug 17, 2019 9:27:13 GMT 1
1. Cardiff 2. Fulham — 3. Preston 4. Leeds 5. West Brom 6. Brentford I think Town may start slowly and end up sacking Siewert by October time. Then push on after that and finish around 10th. Where as in League 2 I think...I don't give a shit Okay, so my timing was a bit out but you can make a prediction without it been a dig. It’s very difficult to suddenly change a losing mentality and I didn’t think you’d replaced the players you’d sold so a slow start was expected imo. A proven manager could/should turn things around though. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 17, 2019 10:19:07 GMT 1
Where as in League 2 I think...I don't give a shit Okay, so my timing was a bit out but you can make a prediction without it been a dig. It’s very difficult to suddenly change a losing mentality and I didn’t think you’d replaced the players you’d sold so a slow start was expected imo. A proven manager could/should turn things around though. Can we have yours and scanz bin please ? |
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