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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 13:58:16 GMT 1
The fans generally stayed loyal and patient to the end of the Premier League. New man takes over from Dean and there are question marks around his wealth that he is aware of and assures us he has enough money to run a championship club and get it challenging for promotion to the premier league.
He then talks up transfer business, 3 prem league loans that will have more of an impact than Mooy.
Upsets some fans with the fake shirt launch (I loved it)
He replaces established 1st team players with lower league players that don't get in the match day 18.
He benefits from over £20M in transfers but doesn't invest knowing that Mooy is in the last year of his contract and likely to leave. Instead of selling we loan Mooy out, the squad is weakened and there is no time to bring in a suitable replacement.
The manager who wore out his honeymoon period in the dismal end to the premier league with no clear system in place continues in the Championship with no clear system in place.
Dean who had built up 10 years of good will and trust would be criticized with how this summer has gone, Phil must have known that his decisions were going to create a toxic environment and he hasn't earned the right to say trust me.
Mike Ashley has just spent £40M on 1 player and they are still planning on boycotting matches until he leaves. Trust is easily lost and almost impossible to get back and Phil and Jan are destroying a lot of trust. If we have to wait until January or next summer to see the fruits of these sales then unfortunately they will be starting again with the crowd back to 12K and will have lost the atmosphere that made the place special for the last 3 years.
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Post by detox on Aug 8, 2019 14:00:50 GMT 1
bloody hell, get a grip...
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 8, 2019 14:02:40 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day.
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Post by redshadow on Aug 8, 2019 14:11:26 GMT 1
Who the fook are you to say im plodding along with my day? Today is just the start of the fun !
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mallyb
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 14:14:48 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day. That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate. |
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Post by I have a box full of hats on Aug 8, 2019 14:25:49 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day. That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate.1) we have loaned Mooy out 2) there is no time to bring in a suitable replacement. 3) Phil must have known that his decisions were going to create a toxic environment 4) he hasn't earned the right to say trust me. |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 8, 2019 14:28:24 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day. Eggbloodyzactly |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 8, 2019 14:33:21 GMT 1
That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate.1) we have loaned Mooy out 2) there is no time to bring in a suitable replacement. 3) Phil must have known that his decisions were going to create a toxic environment 4) he hasn't earned the right to say trust me. Spot on its a joke ! |
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Post by chiefyk on Aug 8, 2019 14:36:09 GMT 1
It's people like you who are making this toxic. How difficult is it to support the team?
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 14:38:06 GMT 1
That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate.1) we have loaned Mooy out 2) there is no time to bring in a suitable replacement. 3) Phil must have known that his decisions were going to create a toxic environment 4) he hasn't earned the right to say trust me. 1 & 2 we will see by the end of the day but 3&4 are you kidding? Trust is not earned by making misleading statements. After last season he must Know Jan will get very little patience from fans. He claims to have been a fan 40 years. How have deadline day deals out of the club gone down in the past? How did selling star players without replacement go down in the past? If he couldn't figure it out no wonder he thinks he has enough money to take the club forward. |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 14:38:54 GMT 1
It's people like you who are making this toxic. How difficult is it to support the team? Think you should be asking the owner that question |
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Post by upthetown on Aug 8, 2019 14:39:27 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day. That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate. As above... the toxic atmosphere stems from folk like you. Get a bloody backbone. |
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Aug 8, 2019 14:42:21 GMT 1
The quality of discussion on this board and elsewhere online is a big contributing factor to the perceived toxicity. I'm taking a break after the transfer window shuts and focusing on just watching and supporting, I'd suggest others do the same if it's bothering them.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 8, 2019 14:43:01 GMT 1
I don't think there will be a toxic atmosphere at all, if things don't show a sign of improving some will get angry, some will still support and many will say "seen it all before, typical Town, been this way since WWII".
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Post by terrierhx on Aug 8, 2019 14:44:15 GMT 1
I’m pretty new on here and relatively new as a town fan compared to many at only 6/7 years but I’m gobsmacked at some of the tripe I read on here!
To lay all this at Phil’s door when he’s barely got his feet under the table and also with DH still a shareholder and therefore involved in these decisions, is absolutely bonkers!!
Mooy - do we have all the details? Only 10 months left on his contract and maybe wanted to go.... PH’s fault that this was the situation with a contract that has largely run down....? I don’t think so. Not much merit in keeping a player that doesn’t want to be here so had to find a solution.
Folk expecting to splash tens of millions here and there should stick to playing FIFA !
Given the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition.
What the club needs is getting behind the players, the manager and the chairman. All this toxic stuff can only do harm.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 8, 2019 14:50:52 GMT 1
It’s people like you mallyb that cause toxicity. Everyone else is just plodding along with their day. That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate. the walking out at 80 mins in our section was 2 blokes it was their opinion and right to do so.. the rest of your post is your opinion, your opinion like everyone else's is not fact.. you have the right to be a bi polar fan but its not a fact that everyone else is.. sunny day here, we will move on wether you hide in a dark room and cry 'woe is me' or not.. |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 14:59:31 GMT 1
I’m pretty new on here and relatively new as a town fan compared to many at only 6/7 years but I’m gobsmacked at some of the tripe I read on here! To lay all this at Phil’s door when he’s barely got his feet under the table and also with DH still a shareholder and therefore involved in these decisions, is absolutely bonkers!! Mooy - do we have all the details? Only 10 months left on his contract and maybe wanted to go.... PH’s fault that this was the situation with a contract that has largely run down....? I don’t think so. Not much merit in keeping a player that doesn’t want to be here so had to find a solution. So don't tell the fans that it would take an obsene amount of money to take any of our star players in the last week of the transfer window.Folk expecting to splash tens of millions here and there should stick to playing FIFA ! There is a lot of difference between 10's of millions and £200KGiven the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition. But not for Cardiff, or Fulham, or Stoke, or West Brom, or Swansea or....... any other team in recent history relegated from the premier league. What the club needs is getting behind the players, the manager and the chairman. All this toxic stuff can only do harm. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 8, 2019 15:00:50 GMT 1
I don't think there will be a toxic atmosphere at all, if things don't show a sign of improving some will get angry, some will still support and many will say "seen it all before, typical Town, been this way since WWII". That's the thing, us long termers HAVE seen it all before and IT IS typical Town, none of this really surprises me. |
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Post by arroloui on Aug 8, 2019 15:01:14 GMT 1
I’m pretty new on here and relatively new as a town fan compared to many at only 6/7 years but I’m gobsmacked at some of the tripe I read on here! To lay all this at Phil’s door when he’s barely got his feet under the table and also with DH still a shareholder and therefore involved in these decisions, is absolutely bonkers!! Mooy - do we have all the details? Only 10 months left on his contract and maybe wanted to go.... PH’s fault that this was the situation with a contract that has largely run down....? I don’t think so. Not much merit in keeping a player that doesn’t want to be here so had to find a solution. Folk expecting to splash tens of millions here and there should stick to playing FIFA ! Given the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition. What the club needs is getting behind the players, the manager and the chairman. All this toxic stuff can only do harm. stop trying to paint a happy picture will you get your head out of your ass and realise we are doomed this season.. |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 15:08:13 GMT 1
That's what it looked like at 80 Minutes on Monday as the Stadium emptied. Pick out anything I have said that is not accurate. the walking out at 80 mins in our section was 2 blokes it was their opinion and right to do so.. the rest of your post is your opinion, your opinion like everyone else's is not fact.. you have the right to be a bi polar fan but its not a fact that everyone else is.. sunny day here, we will move on wether you hide in a dark room and cry 'woe is me' or not.. You have the right to be happy in the demise of the club as fans of rival clubs will be. You no doubt were happy to drop to the basement in consecutive years in the 70's, chance to see new grounds you'd never been to before. I'm not. At 80 Minutes the stadium was half empty and many of those that stayed booed. So you can say it's a sunny day but perhaps you are the one with the mental health problems and medication is why it's sunny. It's not my opinion that PH has made statements that would generously be described as misleading and perhaps more accurately described as lies. It's not my opinion that Jan will get less patience this season. His team were booed off twice in the 1st game. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 8, 2019 15:11:05 GMT 1
Given the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition. But not for Cardiff, or Fulham, or Stoke, or West Brom, or Swansea or....... any other team in recent history relegated from the premier league. Four of those five clubs are backed by serious money, the other one finished tenth and have just lost their manager and two best players. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 8, 2019 15:12:57 GMT 1
I don't think there will be a toxic atmosphere at all, if things don't show a sign of improving some will get angry, some will still support and many will say "seen it all before, typical Town, been this way since WWII". That's the thing, us long termers HAVE seen it all before and IT IS typical Town, none of this really surprises me. And you know what....? That is really at the nub of why people like me are so disappointed and frustrated to be in this position again. I (we) hoped that we had moved forward from the mistakes of the past and once again we are right back where in the same place. There might be some master plan I am missing (such as PH being an interim owner before someone else comes in) but otherwise we are back to not having the pockets to support (any) ambition..... "No Mr Shankly you can't sign two blokes from Scotland, we've never heard of them" "What shall we do with all this money for young Denis, I know we'll buy some floodlights" "You want to buy players Ian/Mick (delete as you see fit or remember), can't you manage with what you have" "Thanks for getting us promoted Neil, you don't expect a bigger salary do you? Sorry it's a bit melodramatic, but you get my point. |
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 15:17:59 GMT 1
Given the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition. But not for Cardiff, or Fulham, or Stoke, or West Brom, or Swansea or....... any other team in recent history relegated from the premier league. Four of those five clubs are backed by serious money, the other one finished tenth and have just lost their manager and two best players. Still bound by FFP however rich the owner. Phil claims to have money to take the club forward plus what we didn't spend out of last years 126M and the previous years and the parachute payments and player sales and we don't spend anything. We have lost 9 players from the 1st team squad and don't need to sell anyone, but it now appears we do!! |
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Post by Amigo on Aug 8, 2019 15:19:25 GMT 1
the walking out at 80 mins in our section was 2 blokes it was their opinion and right to do so.. the rest of your post is your opinion, your opinion like everyone else's is not fact.. you have the right to be a bi polar fan but its not a fact that everyone else is.. sunny day here, we will move on wether you hide in a dark room and cry 'woe is me' or not.. You have the right to be happy in the demise of the club as fans of rival clubs will be. You no doubt were happy to drop to the basement in consecutive years in the 70's, chance to see new grounds you'd never been to before. I'm not. At 80 Minutes the stadium was half empty and many of those that stayed booed. So you can say it's a sunny day but perhaps you are the one with the mental health problems and medication is why it's sunny. It's not my opinion that PH has made statements that would generously be described as misleading and perhaps more accurately described as lies. It's not my opinion that Jan will get less patience this season. His team were booed off twice in the 1st game. Maybe it's not a mental health issues and medication why it's a sunny day. Maybe it's the fact that it is actually warm and sunny out there, maybe he's having a day out with his kids and you're acting suicidal over something that is a game at the end of the day. The demise of our club? Jesus christ, dramatic much?? Not long ago we'd have loved to have been in the Championship, we've punched above our weight for a couple of years and people have got carried away. If it makes you this unhappy I think you should step away from the game and find something in your life you aren't going to get so worked up about. |
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Post by terrierhx on Aug 8, 2019 15:27:50 GMT 1
I’m pretty new on here and relatively new as a town fan compared to many at only 6/7 years but I’m gobsmacked at some of the tripe I read on here! To lay all this at Phil’s door when he’s barely got his feet under the table and also with DH still a shareholder and therefore involved in these decisions, is absolutely bonkers!! Mooy - do we have all the details? Only 10 months left on his contract and maybe wanted to go.... PH’s fault that this was the situation with a contract that has largely run down....? I don’t think so. Not much merit in keeping a player that doesn’t want to be here so had to find a solution. Folk expecting to splash tens of millions here and there should stick to playing FIFA ! Given the squad that took us down and their associated wages etc, this was always going to be a difficult window and a real transition. What the club needs is getting behind the players, the manager and the chairman. All this toxic stuff can only do harm. stop trying to paint a happy picture will you get your head out of your ass and realise we are doomed this season.. Not painting a happy picture. Just suggesting some realism would be good and where to lay blame (if any) should be better thought out! |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 8, 2019 15:30:08 GMT 1
Four of those five clubs are backed by serious money, the other one finished tenth and have just lost their manager and two best players. Still bound by FFP however rich the owner. Phil claims to have money to take the club forward plus what we didn't spend out of last years 126M and the previous years and the parachute payments and player sales and we don't spend anything. We have lost 9 players from the 1st team squad and don't need to sell anyone, but it now appears we do!! FFP's a joke and they'll push it to the limit, we can't afford to. We made £23M first year in Prem, probably around same in second but we owe Dean Hoyle £50M. Sunderland were relegated in recent memory, how they doing? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 8, 2019 15:34:37 GMT 1
the walking out at 80 mins in our section was 2 blokes it was their opinion and right to do so.. the rest of your post is your opinion, your opinion like everyone else's is not fact.. you have the right to be a bi polar fan but its not a fact that everyone else is.. sunny day here, we will move on wether you hide in a dark room and cry 'woe is me' or not.. You have the right to be happy in the demise of the club as fans of rival clubs will be. You no doubt were happy to drop to the basement in consecutive years in the 70's, chance to see new grounds you'd never been to before. I'm not. At 80 Minutes the stadium was half empty and many of those that stayed booed. So you can say it's a sunny day but perhaps you are the one with the mental health problems and medication is why it's sunny. It's not my opinion that PH has made statements that would generously be described as misleading and perhaps more accurately described as lies. It's not my opinion that Jan will get less patience this season. His team were booed off twice in the 1st game. its your opinion, all of it.. some booed and some left.. the 80% is your opinion, the amount of booing is your opinion.. its definitely sunny, no medication required.. your opinion of how we dealt with the 70s is just that, an opinion.. in your 'opinion' the statements that may well have been made in good faith were 'lies' you have no evidence or proof of said untruths.. your opinion of how long those that count will stick with Jan when in your 'opinion' it continues to be unsuccessful is again your opinion.. Jans team on monday were thought by some in their 'opinion' to fight back from stupid mistakes and to have a very decent second half... problem today?? every arse thinks their 'opinion' is a fact and is unarguable .... my opinion is to leave the club to get on and then see if any 'facts' appear on and off the pitch to comment on sensibly rather than sound bite jerk reactions to anything and everything.. should you wish to vote with your feet, please do its your right and in your opinion the right thing to do.. |
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Post by oldrain on Aug 8, 2019 15:34:37 GMT 1
Having watched Town since 1961 (5 years old) I’ve seen plenty of ups and downs but the reaction to what’s going on now is pathetic I don’t regard people as supporters who after one game think the whole Huddersfield Town world is falling apart maybe they can jump back on the bandwagon when we start winning again let’s get back to supporting the club through thick and thin if you can’t handle the thin shut up and go
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 8, 2019 15:46:21 GMT 1
So now it's the fault of a few random people on the internet that there is a growing toxicity around the club.
Nothing to do with a full year of woeful football, lack of investment, and empty promises then?
It never fails to astound me how much blind and baseless positivity exists within our fanbase at times.
Open your eyes FFS.
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Post by mallyb on Aug 8, 2019 15:49:05 GMT 1
You have the right to be happy in the demise of the club as fans of rival clubs will be. You no doubt were happy to drop to the basement in consecutive years in the 70's, chance to see new grounds you'd never been to before. I'm not. At 80 Minutes the stadium was half empty and many of those that stayed booed. So you can say it's a sunny day but perhaps you are the one with the mental health problems and medication is why it's sunny. It's not my opinion that PH has made statements that would generously be described as misleading and perhaps more accurately described as lies. It's not my opinion that Jan will get less patience this season. His team were booed off twice in the 1st game. its your opinion, all of it.. some booed and some left.. the 80% is your opinion, the amount of booing is your opinion.. its definitely sunny, no medication required.. your opinion of how we dealt with the 70s is just that, an opinion.. in your 'opinion' the statements that may well have been made in good faith were 'lies' you have no evidence or proof of said untruths.. Kind of do in that he said we were signing 3 prem league players the following week that would have more of an impact than Mooy and unless we are keeping them so secret we are never going to play them then it was misleading or a lie.your opinion of how long those that count will stick with Jan when in your 'opinion' it continues to be unsuccessful is again your opinion.. By those that count I assume you mean the people that employ him. I mean the fans, think I made that pretty clear as well. Evidence, monday night. Do I need to take a scrren shot from sky at 80 minutes to see more empty seats than full to prov e what you saw if you were there.Jans team on monday were thought by some in their 'opinion' to fight back from stupid mistakes and to have a very decent second half... problem today?? every arse thinks their 'opinion' is a fact and is unarguable .... Yes you domy opinion is to leave the club to get on and then see if any 'facts' appear on and off the pitch to comment on sensibly rather than sound bite jerk reactions to anything and everything.. should you wish to vote with your feet, please do its your right and in your opinion the right thing to do..
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