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Post by explorer on Aug 9, 2019 18:30:07 GMT 1
Flo will be taking all corners and free-kicks moving forward That did occur to me; having said that he'll get blamed for them being rubbish even when he doesn't take them. Club should come out and nominate a specified corner-taker - with a designated scapegoat there’d be no confusion as to who we should all direct our anger at.👍 |
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Post by Rambo on Aug 9, 2019 18:39:16 GMT 1
i think i read somewhere that in our promotion season , we had 240 / 250 corners and scored the grand total of 4 goals looks like anderson and sally are spot on Wow! Look at my post regarding the numbers game above. They say chances of scoring direct from a corner 1/59. At 240 corners and 4 goals our stat was 1/60. So you were wrong!! 🙄 |
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Post by drewden on Aug 9, 2019 18:40:24 GMT 1
You can add throw-ins to that list too. The only time we ever retained possession from a throw was when it went to Mooy. It’s been a pet peeve of mine for years - when we have a throw we take ages to get it lined up and then just seem to play it off the cuff rather than having an actual plan - and when the opposition have one we generally let them get on with it. Does my head in. Annoying I agree. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 9, 2019 19:38:50 GMT 1
Wow! Look at my post regarding the numbers game above. They say chances of scoring direct from a corner 1/59. At 240 corners and 4 goals our stat was 1/60. So you were wrong!! 🙄 More that the data from Town's season shows that we were almost bang on with the results of the previous analysis. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 19:41:36 GMT 1
Mbenza and Bacuna by far the best corner takers in the club...Although I’d prefer Bacuna to be lurking in the box as he’s a dirty bastard, where Mbenza is likely to be a spare part.
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Post by ram on Aug 10, 2019 10:34:44 GMT 1
Did anyone see the Liverpool corners last night{they scored from one}but the rest,especially from the England full back,never beat the 1st man. Very poor!
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Post by royrace on Aug 10, 2019 10:54:44 GMT 1
Corners...This has got to be the one single upside to Mooy being sold! Pritchard, Bacuna, Mbenza if on the pitch.
Moors corners were shocking nine times out of ten.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 10, 2019 11:05:34 GMT 1
More chance of conceding on the break than scoring from one.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 10, 2019 11:19:17 GMT 1
There was a nice graphic on twitter this week that explained the chances of scoring a goal from a corner. I first saw this interesting but nerdy fact in The Numbers Game" - Anderson & Sally. From what I remember, the chances of scoring from a ball crossed into the penalty area direct from a corner was under 2% (1.7% springs to mind). The attacking team only releases a shot on target following a corner 7% of the time. So, in simpler terms, a team that crosses a corner into the box will score once in 59 attempts. Data comes from the top four leagues in Europe over a number of seasons. Strangley, the fans of the team awarded the corner suddenly go crazy, supposing that the award of a corner massively increases the chance of scoring - in normal "boot the pill into the box circumstances"... it doesn't. That's why a number of teams, especially from Europe ( e.g. Barcelona), never cross the ball into the box, but play it out from the corner flag. The only problem I have with Anderson & Sally's data is that they don't give the probability of scoring when the corner is not crossed immediately into the penalty area i.e. possession is retained. It would be better to compare. Nevertheless, I'd like to see us keep hold of the ball from a corner more, even if it means the ball occasionally going back to half way. For anyone who hasn't seen it: |
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Post by dumbo on Aug 10, 2019 11:40:07 GMT 1
There was a nice graphic on twitter this week that explained the chances of scoring a goal from a corner. I first saw this interesting but nerdy fact in The Numbers Game" - Anderson & Sally. From what I remember, the chances of scoring from a ball crossed into the penalty area direct from a corner was under 2% (1.7% springs to mind). The attacking team only releases a shot on target following a corner 7% of the time. So, in simpler terms, a team that crosses a corner into the box will score once in 59 attempts. Data comes from the top four leagues in Europe over a number of seasons. Strangley, the fans of the team awarded the corner suddenly go crazy, supposing that the award of a corner massively increases the chance of scoring - in normal "boot the pill into the box circumstances"... it doesn't. That's why a number of teams, especially from Europe ( e.g. Barcelona), never cross the ball into the box, but play it out from the corner flag. The only problem I have with Anderson & Sally's data is that they don't give the probability of scoring when the corner is not crossed immediately into the penalty area i.e. possession is retained. It would be better to compare. Nevertheless, I'd like to see us keep hold of the ball from a corner more, even if it means the ball occasionally going back to half way. For anyone who hasn't seen it: Biggest take away (apart from everyone being crap and not beating the first man) is to take quick short corners, something I haven't seen us do in a long time. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 10, 2019 12:02:02 GMT 1
For anyone who hasn't seen it: Biggest take away (apart from everyone being crap and not beating the first man) is to take quick short corners, something I haven't seen us do in a long time. Must admit, I've never heard of short corners being vilified. |
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Post by dumbo on Aug 10, 2019 12:50:28 GMT 1
Biggest take away (apart from everyone being crap and not beating the first man) is to take quick short corners, something I haven't seen us do in a long time. Must admit, I've never heard of short corners being vilified. When they fail, which they are very likely to do (even if slightly better than a cross). They are usually greeted by loud moans, 'just get it in the box', 'what's the point of sending your big lads up to do that', 'why prat about with it', etc etc... More so than a standard corner for sure. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 10, 2019 17:22:46 GMT 1
Must admit, I've never heard of short corners being vilified. When they fail, which they are very likely to do (even if slightly better than a cross). They are usually greeted by loud moans, 'just get it in the box', 'what's the point of sending your big lads up to do that', 'why prat about with it', etc etc... More so than a standard corner for sure. I hadn't counted on the Gerritt Forrad brigade. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Aug 10, 2019 17:28:26 GMT 1
Corners were definitely better today, because we didn't even get one.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 10, 2019 17:28:48 GMT 1
Mooys gone so we decided not to win any corners
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Post by wigster on Aug 10, 2019 17:30:32 GMT 1
It's not rocket science - "right Coll the opposition are going to put a high ball into our box from this free kick. Your job - sprint as fast as you can to the half way line and stay there till it's taken." FFS...
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