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Post by chriseastwood on Aug 9, 2019 23:03:28 GMT 1
Just reading in the morning paper an article about the Bury situation and why clubs rise and fall because of good and bad decisions. The article went on to say that Huddersfield's gradual decline from a club that won three straight titles between 1924 and 1927 can be dated from the decision to buy a second-hand stand from Fleetwood for £170 at a time when Arsenal were investing many thousands in infrastructure!
Can you imagine what it would have been like back then if social media was around!!😀
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Post by Ox Terrier on Aug 9, 2019 23:12:13 GMT 1
Hirst out! Chaplin out! Absolute disgrace.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2019 23:16:21 GMT 1
Hirst out! Chaplin out! Absolute disgrace. Especially Chaplin, absolute shite. Not fit to clean Stan & Ollie's boots 🤣 |
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 9, 2019 23:17:19 GMT 1
This summer I imagine we still looked at Fleetwood to see if they had owt worth buying that we could afford.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2019 23:21:46 GMT 1
This summer I imagine we still looked at Fleetwood to see if they had owt worth buying that we could afford. We got 3 pies and 2 Bovrils but asked for a receipt |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:24:45 GMT 1
Who was the commercial director at the time?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:27:41 GMT 1
Because I can't believe he didn't play 2-3-5 at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:33:32 GMT 1
Does the article mention the floodlights bought with the money from Dennis Law's sale to Man City?
It's been well documented that was the reason for Shankly having his head turned by Liverpool.
Do you have a link to the article?
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Post by chriseastwood on Aug 9, 2019 23:41:14 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:43:50 GMT 1
Does the article mention the floodlights bought with the money from Dennis Law's sale to Man City? It's been well documented that was the reason for Shankly having his head turned by Liverpool. Do you have a link to the article? Shankly was already managing Liverpool when City came in for DENIS. Care to show this 'well documented' evidence? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:44:59 GMT 1
Does the article mention the floodlights bought with the money from Dennis Law's sale to Man City? It's been well documented that was the reason for Shankly having his head turned by Liverpool. Do you have a link to the article? Shankly was already managing Liverpool when City came in for DENIS. Care to show this 'well documented' evidence? I stand corrected. Thanks for the info. |
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Post by Ox Terrier on Aug 9, 2019 23:48:26 GMT 1
Does the article mention the floodlights bought with the money from Dennis Law's sale to Man City? It's been well documented that was the reason for Shankly having his head turned by Liverpool. Do you have a link to the article? Shankly was already managing Liverpool when City came in for DENIS. Care to show this 'well documented' evidence? Correct. Shankly wanted to sign Law when he moved, but Liverpool couldn't afford him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:48:29 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 23:52:09 GMT 1
And Shankly had his head turned because the Town board didn't want to invest. From Wiki with citations - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly'Disillusioned by a board that wanted to sell his best players without offering money to buy replacements, Shankly felt stifled by Huddersfield's lack of ambition and was delighted in November 1959 to receive an approach for his services by Liverpool. He recalled how Liverpool chairman Tom (T.V.) Williams asked him if he would like to manage the best club in the country, to which Shankly replied: "Why, is Matt Busby packing up?"[78] Shankly decided to think about the offer as he realised the great potential at Liverpool, who like Huddersfield were in the Second Division at that time. Rumours began and were fuelled by Liverpool's visit to Leeds Road on 28 November. Although Huddersfield won the game 1–0, Shankly accepted the Liverpool offer and resigned his position as Huddersfield manager at a board meeting on 1 December 1959.[79] His league record at Huddersfield was 49 wins and 47 defeats in 129 matches.[74]' |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 0:01:45 GMT 1
And Shankly had his head turned because the Town board didn't want to invest. From Wiki with citations - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly'Disillusioned by a board that wanted to sell his best players without offering money to buy replacements, Shankly felt stifled by Huddersfield's lack of ambition and was delighted in November 1959 to receive an approach for his services by Liverpool. He recalled how Liverpool chairman Tom (T.V.) Williams asked him if he would like to manage the best club in the country, to which Shankly replied: "Why, is Matt Busby packing up?"[78] Shankly decided to think about the offer as he realised the great potential at Liverpool, who like Huddersfield were in the Second Division at that time. Rumours began and were fuelled by Liverpool's visit to Leeds Road on 28 November. Although Huddersfield won the game 1–0, Shankly accepted the Liverpool offer and resigned his position as Huddersfield manager at a board meeting on 1 December 1959.[79] His league record at Huddersfield was 49 wins and 47 defeats in 129 matches.[74]' Shankly wanted to sign Ian St. John and Ron Yates for Huddersfield but we didn't have the money. First thing he did at Liverpool was sign them. The last thing he said to the board on leaving was hold onto Law for 12 months and you'll get a £100,000. We wouldn't wait and sold him to City for £55,000 not long after. City sold him to Torino within 12 months for £110,000. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 0:39:55 GMT 1
And Shankly had his head turned because the Town board didn't want to invest. From Wiki with citations - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Shankly'Disillusioned by a board that wanted to sell his best players without offering money to buy replacements, Shankly felt stifled by Huddersfield's lack of ambition and was delighted in November 1959 to receive an approach for his services by Liverpool. He recalled how Liverpool chairman Tom (T.V.) Williams asked him if he would like to manage the best club in the country, to which Shankly replied: "Why, is Matt Busby packing up?"[78] Shankly decided to think about the offer as he realised the great potential at Liverpool, who like Huddersfield were in the Second Division at that time. Rumours began and were fuelled by Liverpool's visit to Leeds Road on 28 November. Although Huddersfield won the game 1–0, Shankly accepted the Liverpool offer and resigned his position as Huddersfield manager at a board meeting on 1 December 1959.[79] His league record at Huddersfield was 49 wins and 47 defeats in 129 matches.[74]' Shankly wanted to sign Ian St. John and Ron Yates for Huddersfield but we didn't have the money. First thing he did at Liverpool was sign them. The last thing he said to the board on leaving was hold onto Law for 12 months and you'll get a £100,000. We wouldn't wait and sold him to City for £55,000 not long after. City sold him to Torino within 12 months for £110,000. Yep... Shankly left on December 1st 1959 and Denis was sold to City for £55,000 in March 1960. Apparently, Liverpool couldn't afford him at the time and Law was not particularly happy with his move to Manchester as he thought Town had a better team than the Sky Blues at that time (despite being in Div 2). He was on the move again one year later to Torino in Italy. Thank bejeezuz for the modern sell on clauses! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 1:08:08 GMT 1
Just reading in the morning paper an article about the Bury situation and why clubs rise and fall because of good and bad decisions. The article went on to say that Huddersfield's gradual decline from a club that won three straight titles between 1924 and 1927 can be dated from the decision to buy a second-hand stand from Fleetwood for £170 at a time when Arsenal were investing many thousands in infrastructure! Can you imagine what it would have been like back then if social media was around!!😀 Ironic that Arsenal’s recent (relative) decline has largely been because they invested many thousands in infrastructure of a new stadium rather than in a football team! |
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Post by detox on Aug 10, 2019 7:50:46 GMT 1
and we think our board made a hash of things last summer ... that board of shopkeepers, accountants and mill owners stopped us being what Liverpool have been these past 50+ years..bloody hell !
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Post by alexdire on Aug 10, 2019 8:33:39 GMT 1
and we think our board made a hash of things last summer ... that board of shopkeepers, accountants and mill owners stopped us being what Liverpool have been these past 50+ years..bloody hell ! They also refused to sell the club to David Brown. Who would have been able to take us forward. |
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Post by detox on Aug 10, 2019 8:42:08 GMT 1
and we think our board made a hash of things last summer ... that board of shopkeepers, accountants and mill owners stopped us being what Liverpool have been these past 50+ years..bloody hell ! They also refused to sell the club to David Brown. Who would have been able to take us forward. Aye, we'd have soon slipped into gear then....ploughing a furrow through the leagues....... |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 10, 2019 8:46:45 GMT 1
I'm hoping most of this is tongue in cheek. (some obviously are)
If not and people are trying to compare the shark infested world of today with back then, then we've clearly lost the plot...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 9:40:35 GMT 1
The Fleetwood story is complete claptrap. Even in those days £170 was neither here nor there to Town and would have had no effect on our future.
In addition our attendances were poor between the wars with the occasional exception like our record crowd.They were hard times on the 20s and 30s.
We only filled the ground once and it was usually less than half full, so the ground was never a limiting factor, it was lack of support that held us back versus the city clubs.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 10, 2019 11:56:08 GMT 1
and we think our board made a hash of things last summer ... that board of shopkeepers, accountants and mill owners stopped us being what Liverpool have been these past 50+ years..bloody hell ! The ending of the maximum wage was probably the biggest factor in a club like Towns decline. That was the era when the big city clubs with bigger gates started being able to outspend town clubs like HTFC, Burnley, Blackburn Preston etc. Up until then income wasn't the be all and end all. After the maximum wage went, it was. |
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