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Sept 2, 2019 17:56:35 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2019 17:56:35 GMT 1
Only Germany shut according to BBC, Spain, France etc go on until at least 11.00. Still time for MBenza and Diakhaby to go back to where they came from. Leaving us with the German chuckle brothers for out wide and my season card to go into a drawer 🤣 Fucking hell you've endured John Kelly and Kevin Lampost get a grip |
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Sept 2, 2019 18:14:48 GMT 1
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Sept 2, 2019 18:37:47 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 18:37:47 GMT 1
Could it be that Schindler cares too much, so is frightened of making mistakes, thus making him nervous and actually making mistakes. If so, this is a character flaw which can only be cured by a winning streak. Same could be said of Hogg. Possibly not enjoying the added responsibility of the captaincy which should never have been given to him, decisions like that should have had the powers that be concerned long before the end of last season but they chose to do nothing and continue to back their man. New manager may change it again I guess. Very good point. I agree too. Something is not right for him. He’s too good a player to be making so many mistakes. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 2, 2019 18:45:54 GMT 1
Leaving us with the German chuckle brothers for out wide and my season card to go into a drawer 🤣 Fucking hell you've endured John Kelly and Kevin Lampost get a grip I quite liked Lampkin. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 2, 2019 19:03:47 GMT 1
Only Germany shut according to BBC, Spain, France etc go on until at least 11.00. Still time for MBenza and Diakhaby to go back to where they came from. Leaving us with the German chuckle brothers for out wide and my season card to go into a drawer 🤣 If the rest of our squad had the professionalism, heart and attitude of EK and CQ we’d still be a premier league club Both have overachieved at town and played big parts in our success - no qualms them staying while players signed for ten and twenty times the amount go through the motions getting schooled by low end championship footballers |
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Sept 2, 2019 19:09:50 GMT 1
Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 2, 2019 19:09:50 GMT 1
I’m not too fussed on VLP leaving - can see both sides
What I don’t get is the timeline
So the club are saying an offer came in midgame on Saturday. Take the middle point so 345 so that means terms were agreed by the player and a medical passed (assume this involves a flight to Serbia and also no idea how you physically do a medical a couple of hours after you’d played a game) all I’ve the space of about 7.5 hours (assuming vlp jumped in a taxi within 10 mins of getting subbed at kenilworth road) as the deal was announced at midnight
Sounds very very rapid to me
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Post by boooothy on Sept 2, 2019 19:19:20 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:22:09 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents. Thankfully or us .I actually thought we would lose one or both . |
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Sept 2, 2019 19:55:54 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Sept 2, 2019 19:55:54 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents. Thankfully or us .I actually thought we would lose one or both . I’m amazed Mounie is still here. He’s not been great but we’re now playing against terrible teams, it’s a million miles from the Premier League. I hope the new manager can get him onside cause he should literally be head a shoulders better than the centre halves we’re playing against. |
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Sept 2, 2019 20:36:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 20:36:53 GMT 1
Red Star are known as Crvena Zvezda. Weird I know Not really as other languages exist apart from english. Zvezda means star will leave the rest up to you. I’m explaining to a bloke that didn’t know who they were in the champions league. The weird I know was a leg pull but fuck me everyone’s serious in this seasons shit storm. I’ll sign off anyway. Ciao |
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Post by explorer on Sept 2, 2019 21:00:14 GMT 1
I’ve just been on the Red Star forum, “Down at the
Rajko Mitić“ to see if they were happy with buying Raj. I gave them my honest opinion of the lad - “on će te povesti napred u polje”
Which is as close as Google translate could do with “he’ll get you up the field”👍
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 21:05:47 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents. Maybe Schindler and his family are content with life here and happy to stay a while. |
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Post by blueray4 on Sept 2, 2019 21:37:31 GMT 1
Has vlp put anything up thanking the fans. Haven't seen anything yet.
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Sept 2, 2019 21:54:21 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 2, 2019 21:54:21 GMT 1
Has vlp put anything up thanking the fans. Haven't seen anything yet. |
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Sept 2, 2019 22:14:34 GMT 1
Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2019 22:14:34 GMT 1
I’m not too fussed on VLP leaving - can see both sides What I don’t get is the timeline So the club are saying an offer came in midgame on Saturday. Take the middle point so 345 so that means terms were agreed by the player and a medical passed (assume this involves a flight to Serbia and also no idea how you physically do a medical a couple of hours after you’d played a game) all I’ve the space of about 7.5 hours (assuming vlp jumped in a taxi within 10 mins of getting subbed at kenilworth road) as the deal was announced at midnight Sounds very very rapid to me id guess personal terms etc were agreed/we allowed him to have a medical, but then the fee was an issue so we played him to force their hand or they did actually come in for him that late and it was all rushed. he might not have necessarily needed to fly there the medical may have been done somewhere here? i dont know much about medicals but I dont think they are particularly physically demanding (more test based)? so it might not matter too much if he's recently played.....this is all guesswork from me though, maybe someone on here knows more about medicals |
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Sept 2, 2019 22:20:48 GMT 1
Post by tvor on Sept 2, 2019 22:20:48 GMT 1
Red Star are known as Crvena Zvezda. Weird I know Not really as other languages exist apart from english. Zvezda means star will leave the rest up to you. Morning. Is it Morning? |
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Sept 2, 2019 22:22:01 GMT 1
Post by hasta el pueblo on Sept 2, 2019 22:22:01 GMT 1
I’ve just been on the Red Star forum, “Down at the Rajko Mitić“ to see if they were happy with buying Raj. I gave them my honest opinion of the lad - “on će te povesti napred u polje” Which is as close as Google translate could do with “he’ll get you up the field”👍 nema krajnjeg proizvoda, poni. |
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Sept 2, 2019 22:22:33 GMT 1
Post by tvor on Sept 2, 2019 22:22:33 GMT 1
Some of the grief PH is getting on Twitter you’d think he’d let Messi go and not RVLP.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 2, 2019 22:39:19 GMT 1
Leaving us with the German chuckle brothers for out wide and my season card to go into a drawer 🤣 If the rest of our squad had the professionalism, heart and attitude of EK and CQ we’d still be a premier league club Both have overachieved at town and played big parts in our success - no qualms them staying while players signed for ten and twenty times the amount go through the motions getting schooled by low end championship footballers Exactly they overachieved, now they are back to normal and their normal, unfortunately, isn't good enough. If professionalism, heart and attitude was enough Lee Clark's team with Peter Clarke and Novak in would've gone up. |
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Sept 2, 2019 23:10:02 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Sept 2, 2019 23:10:02 GMT 1
Fucking hell you've endured John Kelly and Kevin Lampost get a grip I quite liked Lampkin. Not saying lot for Kelly that. Didn't town replace Butler and Marsden for Kelly and O Regan in central midfield v Peterborough play off (first time)? and expected to get to Wembley |
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Sept 2, 2019 23:11:08 GMT 1
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Post by 28901 on Sept 2, 2019 23:11:08 GMT 1
If the rest of our squad had the professionalism, heart and attitude of EK and CQ we’d still be a premier league club Both have overachieved at town and played big parts in our success - no qualms them staying while players signed for ten and twenty times the amount go through the motions getting schooled by low end championship footballers Exactly they overachieved, now they are back to normal and their normal, unfortunately, isn't good enough. If professionalism, heart and attitude was enough Lee Clark's team with Peter Clarke and Novak in would've gone up. looking back it really was a miracle |
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Sept 2, 2019 23:32:50 GMT 1
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Post by 8pack on Sept 2, 2019 23:32:50 GMT 1
Well he has gone to Red Star... What a disgrace.... Buy the worsed wingers I have ever seen after trying for one season..... and get rid of a skillful talented player...
The club is in disarray...
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Sept 3, 2019 0:32:10 GMT 1
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Post by wigster on Sept 3, 2019 0:32:10 GMT 1
Well he has gone to Red Star... What a disgrace.... Buy the worsed wingers I have ever seen after trying for one season..... and get rid of a skillful talented player... The club is in disarray... Could it not be that the club is trying to get rid of a"skillful talented player" who has produced almost literally nothing, for at least two years, had "problems" with management at every club he was at, starting with Wolves, and whose main contribution, as far as I can see, was to produce disruptive disrespectful social media comments? He only wrote "back where I belong" when Middlesboro got rid of him without playing him, and no-one else came in for him. Good riddance and another big (by most standards) wage got rid of.,(dons tin hat) Well done Phil. YOU haven't created this mess... |
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Sept 3, 2019 0:55:36 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 0:55:36 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents. I don’t really get the Schindler position. He must be value to someone at around £5m surely, even as a 29 year old? He’s joined us a no name low level player and he’s now got credible Championship and Premier League experience who despite results has performed consistently well and demonstrated enough that he’d likely slot comfortably into a much better team. But Kongolo is paid and valued far more than he’s really worth on technical and physical merit, so no massive surprise that offers haven’t come in, I guess his market value of around £10-£13m doesn’t stack up as a value proposition for us based on what we have to (still) pay out. Kongolo is good, but that we paid considerably more than he’s really worth is the hamstringing fact that contributes to this extended and painful transition period. |
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Sept 3, 2019 1:03:18 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 1:03:18 GMT 1
If the rest of our squad had the professionalism, heart and attitude of EK and CQ we’d still be a premier league club Both have overachieved at town and played big parts in our success - no qualms them staying while players signed for ten and twenty times the amount go through the motions getting schooled by low end championship footballers Exactly they overachieved, now they are back to normal and their normal, unfortunately, isn't good enough. If professionalism, heart and attitude was enough Lee Clark's team with Peter Clarke and Novak in would've gone up. How can we say they’re at their normal or they’re not able to “over achieve” when between the pair they’ve had one start and 5 sub appearances so far this season? They could both easily be up their as the most influential players this season dependent on who comes in to manage what we’re left with, far too early to write off players who have proven they’ve got what it takes at this level (especially when the alternative is to put our hopes on players who haven’t proven they’ve got what it takes at this level or in some cases at any level). |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 3, 2019 6:07:09 GMT 1
Exactly they overachieved, now they are back to normal and their normal, unfortunately, isn't good enough. If professionalism, heart and attitude was enough Lee Clark's team with Peter Clarke and Novak in would've gone up. How can we say they’re at their normal or they’re not able to “over achieve” when between the pair they’ve had one start and 5 sub appearances so far this season? They could both easily be up their as the most influential players this season dependent on who comes in to manage what we’re left with, far too early to write off players who have proven they’ve got what it takes at this level (especially when the alternative is to put our hopes on players who haven’t proven they’ve got what it takes at this level or in some cases at any level). I wasn't particularly impressed with either of them 3 years ago and they've both got worse since |
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Sept 3, 2019 8:06:54 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 8:06:54 GMT 1
How can we say they’re at their normal or they’re not able to “over achieve” when between the pair they’ve had one start and 5 sub appearances so far this season? They could both easily be up their as the most influential players this season dependent on who comes in to manage what we’re left with, far too early to write off players who have proven they’ve got what it takes at this level (especially when the alternative is to put our hopes on players who haven’t proven they’ve got what it takes at this level or in some cases at any level). I wasn't particularly impressed with either of them 3 years ago and they've both got worse since That’s certainly your prerogative, although I find it difficult to understand how you failed to be impressed by the teams top scorer in a promotion season (especially a player who wasn’t usually playing as an actual striker), and slightly less difficult to understand why you couldn’t be impressed at Collins ability to contribute to key moments effectively. Collin has perhaps the coolest head in our squad in terms of liookimg up and picking out an intelligent pass inside the attacking box, although his technical ability doesn’t always deliver. How you know they’ve got worse I don’t really know. They’ve barely played, and when they hade it’s been in amongst a disorganised group of individuals, half of whom seemingly don’t want to be here. I don’t think it’s fair to comparatively judge anyone on this seasons performances to date, especially two players who haven’t started more than 1 game between them. |
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Sept 3, 2019 8:51:09 GMT 1
Post by captainblack on Sept 3, 2019 8:51:09 GMT 1
Why are Kongolo and Schindler still here? They must have really shit agents. Maybe Schindler and his family are content with life here and happy to stay a while. I heard rumour that its because Schindler's family are being held hostage by the "Town Stasi"  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 8:55:23 GMT 1
Maybe Schindler and his family are content with life here and happy to stay a while. I heard rumour that its because Schindler's family are being held hostage by the "Town Stasi" No chance, someone's keeping watch. "They'll never get past Kongolo" |
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Post by calken on Sept 3, 2019 9:21:32 GMT 1
If I were VLP, I would have done the same. Contributed in a season to get promoted to the PL, never got a chance, frozen out and loaned out. The club clearly gave the impression they no longer wanted him and he started looking elsewhere.
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