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Post by davyjones on Aug 15, 2019 23:28:58 GMT 1
Cannot believe any Town fan wants Town to lose anytime
Jan is getting slated beyond belief but nearly every Town I speak openly admits the players are not giving 100%
FFS these are professional highly paid players on Ā£20k to Ā£30k per week openly ripping the piss out of the fans by not giving 100% yet its Jan getting the absolute kitchen sink being thrown at him.
He may not be the greatest but at least he is giving 100% unlike the players apparently !!!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 15, 2019 23:31:57 GMT 1
Thanks for at least attempting an answer ;-) Yeah, I admit it's not exactly a ringing endorsement! But tbh that is what I have been pinning my hopes on. Replacing him now means throwing away all that preparation. That potentially massive advantage that we have of being able to have 15 free hits against PL quality opposition with something to play for IN ADDITION TO the actual pre-season that we've had. By now, he should know how he wants us to play, and should have had ample opportunity to communicate that to the players. We should have hit the ground running this season. If he wasn't treating his PL games like an extended pre-season, then I would have hoped for better performances & results than we had. We're still only 2/3* games into the season & every manager is allowed a few shockers (in our promotion season, Bristol C away, both games v Fulham....or that spell in November). (*depending on whether you count the Lincoln game - I do). If after 6 games we still aren't at the races then it'll be pretty difficult to make an argument that he just needs more time. 6 shit games in a row after a 7 month preseason is beyond just mere bad luck. My view is that you are hanging on to things which are nothing to do with what we are seeing on the pitch . There have been no glimpses of anything to get positive about on the pitch. I'm sorry I can't count pre season friendlies . I remember going to watch us beat Leeds 3-0 in the seventies.. then losing to the the aldershots of this world when the season started. But anyway I'm going to stop moaning. Hopefully either he will turn it round or we will get someone in who will . Either way we follow the town |
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Post by willo on Aug 15, 2019 23:32:03 GMT 1
Voted no only because I never want to see my team lose but would it be for the greater good if we did though? Too tough a decision at this time of night.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2019 23:51:52 GMT 1
Yeah, I admit it's not exactly a ringing endorsement! But tbh that is what I have been pinning my hopes on. Replacing him now means throwing away all that preparation. That potentially massive advantage that we have of being able to have 15 free hits against PL quality opposition with something to play for IN ADDITION TO the actual pre-season that we've had. By now, he should know how he wants us to play, and should have had ample opportunity to communicate that to the players. We should have hit the ground running this season. If he wasn't treating his PL games like an extended pre-season, then I would have hoped for better performances & results than we had. We're still only 2/3* games into the season & every manager is allowed a few shockers (in our promotion season, Bristol C away, both games v Fulham....or that spell in November). (*depending on whether you count the Lincoln game - I do). If after 6 games we still aren't at the races then it'll be pretty difficult to make an argument that he just needs more time. 6 shit games in a row after a 7 month preseason is beyond just mere bad luck. . There have been no glimpses of anything to get positive about on the pitch. I'm sorry I can't count pre season friendlies . I remember going to watch us beat Leeds 3-0 in the seventies.. then losing to the the aldershots of this world when the season started. But anyway I'm going to stop moaning. Hopefully either he will turn it round or we will get someone in who will . Either way we follow the town That's my view too, which is why my faith in him has waned. And I can't count preseason victories either. It's just a few training sessions that went well (I recall conceding 10 in 2 pre-season games prior to our best pre-Wagner side in half a century). I'm sure even "Supermac" had a few good training sessions! I'm on the verge of giving up on him. That doesn't change the fact that I want him to succeed & prove me wrong. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2019 23:56:12 GMT 1
Meet me tomorrow night and give me 20 notes and I'll match it and we'll back Fulham, make ourselves a tidy profit. Never! We've been over this, how can you "support" Huddersfield Town and bet against them?? It's just wrong! No problem meeting up though  I still regret not betting against us on Tuesday. |
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Post by Melc on Aug 15, 2019 23:58:39 GMT 1
And if we win and win well, the start of the tide turning and we then go on a blazing winning streak, you'd still want him sacking, I presume? There is more chance of the Titanic surfacing from the sea bed and sailing into Southampton! |
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Post by zmann on Aug 16, 2019 0:00:31 GMT 1
Absolutely not. By all means bet against town for financial gain but no fan should want their team to lose. If we win that would mean Siewert has done a good job. If he keeps the team winning would we still want him out because of his poor record historically? Hmm...
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Post by zoso on Aug 16, 2019 0:01:38 GMT 1
Never! We've been over this, how can you "support" Huddersfield Town and bet against them?? It's just wrong! No problem meeting up though I still regret not betting against us on Tuesday. Don't think you would have got very good odds, weren't Lincoln favourites? |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 16, 2019 0:05:27 GMT 1
I still regret not betting against us on Tuesday. Don't think you would have got very good odds, weren't Lincoln favourites? They actually weren't. The odds against them were bloody fantastic. The "I'm not a betting man" + the "I'll do it later" kind of guy meant I missed out on quite a windfall. I even picked the right score an everything. |
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Post by zoso on Aug 16, 2019 0:09:54 GMT 1
Don't think you would have got very good odds, weren't Lincoln favourites? They actually weren't. The odds against them were bloody fantastic. The "I'm not a betting man" + the "I'll do it later" kind of guy meant I missed out on quite a windfall. I even picked the right score an everything. But it would have been on your conscience for the rest of your life! You're winnings would have been akin to 30 pieces of silver......and we all know what happened to Judas! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 0:11:17 GMT 1
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 16, 2019 0:19:22 GMT 1
They actually weren't. The odds against them were bloody fantastic. The "I'm not a betting man" + the "I'll do it later" kind of guy meant I missed out on quite a windfall. I even picked the right score an everything. But it would have been on your conscience for the rest of your life! You're winnings would have been akin to 30 pieces of silver......and we all know what happened to Judas! I'd have coped. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 16, 2019 0:37:26 GMT 1
Never want Town to lose, ever. Its dirty, like betting against them. So it's a no from me. Wanted us to lose (or draw) v. Birmingham on the last day of the 94/95 season, so they went up and we didn't have to face them in the play-offs. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 16, 2019 2:37:29 GMT 1
What will be, will be. I canāt see Jan turning this around on Friday(Saturday morning 4.45am for me).
I donāt get up at 2am in the morning with an expectation of a Town loss, I get up hoping we win every game we play. Last season and the first 2 games have been hard watches and Iāve certainly been grumpy by the 4am finish and vented my frustrations.
Being someone who lives on the other side of the world, I donāt have any friends who support Town, so the DATM community gives me my football discussion outlet. I love the passion and see all bleed blue and white on here.
What Iām trying to say is, stick together in these tough times, some will have different opinions, ideas and pathways to success, but ultimately we all have HTAFCās best interests at heart.
What will be will be UTT.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 2:39:44 GMT 1
If I knew that he would definitely be sacked if we lost, we would replace him with a decent manager and go on to have a good season I would say yes. But as we have no idea what would happen should we lose, no I will not be hoping we lose. I would still prefer that things turned around very quickly but I have zero confidence they will because Jan is a Grade A Muppet.
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Post by greyarea on Aug 16, 2019 3:22:58 GMT 1
A terrible post. Tuesday night was an awful experience. Always I want Huddersfield to do well. If Huddersfield under Jan Siewert go and destroy Fulham, sparking a great revival, I would love it.
Jan in his actions and interviews seems a very decent person. The question is, is he any good at manager-ering.
It could be this is rock bottom and the Fulham game is the beginning of the rebound back.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 16, 2019 7:07:45 GMT 1
We could win and be awful, we could lose and be unlucky.
It's the performance, the selection, the shape and the tactics that matter.
At the moment Siewert hasn't convinced in the basics of coaching. I have grave doubts he has what we need now, but if proved wrong great.
I want to win but surely another poor showing will see a change? That said getting rid of Siewert may change things but our problems are more deep rooted.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 16, 2019 7:25:59 GMT 1
no supporter would hope we would lose surely?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 8:13:55 GMT 1
If we lose we'll be rooted at the bottom. If we win we'll be nearer the top 6. Fuck me rigid. Whoever voted to lose can fuck right off. Support your team you fucking weird c****.
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 16, 2019 8:25:31 GMT 1
If we lose we'll be rooted at the bottom. If we win we'll be nearer the top 6. Fuck me rigid. Whoever voted to lose can fuck right off. Support your team you fucking weird c****. Keep ur pants on bro.. It was a hypothetical question.. My opinion is.. If its for the greater good.. Its a price worth paying.. Anybody who thinks jan is going to turn this around and go on a winning streak is off their tits.. He hasnt got a scooby.. Utft |
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Post by irverino on Aug 16, 2019 8:51:55 GMT 1
When the fixtures came out in June, the six games before the break looked 'tricky' with a prepared team, I never want or back Town to lose, but a win somehow tonight would just paper over cracks......for how long? UTT.
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Post by Macduff on Aug 16, 2019 9:03:54 GMT 1
VLP powers down the wing, delivers an inch perfect cross for Mounie to powerfully head home. A lovely through ball from Bacuna to Grant, round the keeper and in. Pritchard cuts in from the left, into the D and hits a curler into the top corner.
Game over. What's everyone worried about?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:18:09 GMT 1
Scraping the barrel now. Whatās wrong with people? Janās lack of ability, philās approach do far, the players of the last 18 months, the league, the lack of investment, most of all the lack of a coherent team on the pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:22:03 GMT 1
Iām not sure why some people think if/when he goes we are automatically going to start winning? I get the fact he will probably go. I get the fact we look dire. I get the fact it isnāt working. All this crap saying āif we lose and he goes itās worth it in the long runā...how do you know? You donāt. You can say he is crap til the cows come home and say it canāt get worse. I think you may find it could go either way. Just getting a professional manager whoās performed at this level is whatās required right now and the sooner the better. How could we be worse under a new manager? I donāt believe itās possible to be any worse than now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:41:21 GMT 1
Is it fuck worth losing! My faith in JS is rapidly waning & I would have no problem if he walked out today - but for as long as he is HTFC manager I live in hope that JS will turn it around. I want him to prove me wrong. Beating probably the best side in the division would be a pretty good indication that there's hope. Why the fuck would anyone want their own club's manager to fail? What's your faith based on ? I keep asking the same question but no one else seems to be able to answer Itās an illogical sense people have intertwined with their loyalty for the club. I used to despise the Wagner out brigade because I couldnāt bring myself to go against the club and Wagner. To be fair that change yielded even worse for the club but I donāt think itās possible a change now will harm the team further..not sure we can be any worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 9:43:15 GMT 1
Never! We've been over this, how can you "support" Huddersfield Town and bet against them?? It's just wrong! No problem meeting up though I still regret not betting against us on Tuesday. So do I was. Was abroad with no signal because that was easy money. Lincoln are are well organised little side. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 16, 2019 10:00:16 GMT 1
Why are people WANTING him to fail? Why not put all that effort into supporting him and our team? That's totally pathetic. Exactly... Have I lost faith? Think he will go? Yes. But if we were to come out and smash Fulham and put a run together then Iād be delighted to be proved wrong. If that does happen and he proves to be a decent manager in the long run, because of the attempts to undermine the club and staff, some people should never post on this board again. Itās all about humility I suppose, and one or two just donāt have any. Theyāll continue spouting the same old negative dirge whoever is in charge. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Aug 16, 2019 10:09:28 GMT 1
What if we lose and he is kept on?
Body language etc might be due to not winning for so long, rather than the manager. Would be a tough ask of anyone to keep the players motivated after such a run of results. If they still look disinterested after a win tonight, then the naysayers could have a point, but for the time being, the players should share some of this vitriol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 10:09:45 GMT 1
VLP powers down the wing, delivers an inch perfect cross for Mounie to powerfully head home. A lovely through ball from Bacuna to Grant, round the keeper and in. Pritchard cuts in from the left, into the D and hits a curler into the top corner. Game over. What's everyone worried about? UTT This could all happen in the weeks to come, under a new manager. |
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Post by ram on Aug 16, 2019 10:13:39 GMT 1
I doubt the kids on the pitch on Tuesday are on 20/30K a week,as someone on here said,but some of the others who have put us in this position will be.I voted NO as I never want Town to lose{although I am never surprised when they do} I don,t bet against them or boo at games.I have been a supporter,sometimes from afar,for nye on 70 years,sure I am an old git,but the present Town squad is not{or incapable of}playing to whatever plan the Manager is asking for.We cannot get shut of the players so we must change the tactics,or the coach.I do not trust this new chairman.That is my 2 pennorth!!  |
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