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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 9:50:53 GMT 1
We are all missing the big issues here....
Who has Kidnapped the Bacuna from last season, what have they done with him and who the hell is the guy with the funny hairstyle who can barely pass the ball?
I think we need to know!
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2019 10:00:37 GMT 1
Somebody posted a photo on one of the FB groups of him posing with a young fan at the train station on sunday morning, cue the usual fuckwits on there "hope he's leaving" etc. Fucking window lickers 🤬
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Aug 19, 2019 10:03:31 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 19, 2019 10:03:31 GMT 1
We are all missing the big issues here.... Who has Kidnapped the Bacuna from last season, what have they done with him and who the hell is the guy with the funny hairstyle who can barely pass the ball? I think we need to know! Not good enough at all ! |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 19, 2019 10:13:52 GMT 1
A very odd young man on the pitch?
Periods of mooching followed by fits of chasing about and trying to kick anything that moves.
Arguing with himself and weird reactions to losing the ball whilst making the wrong decisions time after time?
As they say in the deep South "that boy ain't right'?
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Aug 19, 2019 10:30:58 GMT 1
Post by In sooth- - on Aug 19, 2019 10:30:58 GMT 1
His brother can pass a ball.
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Aug 19, 2019 10:42:49 GMT 1
Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 10:42:49 GMT 1
His brother can pass a ball. Have they been swapped over the summer, and we have the "wrong" one now? |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 10:43:18 GMT 1
We are all missing the big issues here.... Who has Kidnapped the Bacuna from last season, what have they done with him and who the hell is the guy with the funny hairstyle who can barely pass the ball? I think we need to know! Not good enough at all ! The one we had last year was plenty good enough! |
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Aug 19, 2019 11:09:58 GMT 1
Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2019 11:09:58 GMT 1
A very odd young man on the pitch? Periods of mooching followed by fits of chasing about and trying to kick anything that moves. Arguing with himself and weird reactions to losing the ball whilst making the wrong decisions time after time? As they say in the deep South "that boy ain't right'? Seems the archetypal confidence player. Last year he came into the side and had plenty. Not everything he tried came off by any stretch but enough did to keep his belief in himself high. Now hes off form, not much is coming off for him and hes very quickly gone downhill to utter liability levels. Needs taking out of the 1st team for a bit and hopefully a change in manager can get him believing in himself again. |
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Aug 19, 2019 11:14:43 GMT 1
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Post by lochnessterrier on Aug 19, 2019 11:14:43 GMT 1
Unfortunately when I think of Bacuna I can only recall a superb goal for Stoke and a brilliant assist for Fulham.
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Aug 19, 2019 11:28:26 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 11:28:26 GMT 1
He was thinking he was clearing upfield and miss kicked it. Do you think he did it on purpose?! The embarrassing thing was the crowd reaction. Hes far too slack . There is a player in there but .... And the stick Phil Bill used to get... |
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Post by Rambo on Aug 19, 2019 12:43:11 GMT 1
Still hasn't won a competitive game for us has he? 20-odd games now.
Give the lad a break because I've no doubt this would affect anyone...
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2019 12:46:32 GMT 1
Unfortunately when I think of Bacuna I can only recall a superb goal for Stoke and a brilliant assist for Fulham. You do that, I'll think of the pass for Grant's equaliser against Montpellier or his performance that pushed us on to beat Wolves |
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Aug 19, 2019 12:52:56 GMT 1
Post by canuckterrier on Aug 19, 2019 12:52:56 GMT 1
There's a decent player in Bacuna - we all saw it towards the end of last season - but he's young and inconsistent. Even when he's playing well! At the moment nothing is going right for him. And he's not helping himself at times. For me, he needs to concentrate on doing the basics well to build his confidence. His vision is often very good - he sees the creative pass - but his technique often let's him down. Perhaps by playing more conservatively he can rebuild his confidence and then try to reintroduce the more creative parts of his game? Unlike Diakhaby and Mbenza, I've seen enough in Bacuna to think he has potential, but he is raw and needs coaching to make the best of his talents. Perhaps he needs taking out of the firing line for a few games. He's playing so badly at the moment that he's an accident waiting to happen. Hopefully he'll learn from this difficult period and come back a better player. A Bacuna playing like he did at the end of last season - at a higher level remember - would be a real asset to us. I guess it's now in his hands, and the hands of the new manager. Really good points Andy. Although I’d question the lack of confidence part. If anything, I’d put him in the over-confidence category. |
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Aug 19, 2019 12:56:54 GMT 1
Post by Solihull Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 12:56:54 GMT 1
Still hasn't won a competitive game for us has he? 20-odd games now. Give the lad a break because I've no doubt this would affect anyone... Didn't he play v Wolves at home? He needs dropping to the bench for now. If we're persisting with 433 then Hogg, O'Brien and Chalobah should be in the middle v Cardiff. I think with careful coaching and man management he could still offer us something in the future but we can't afford anyone playing so consistently poor especially when we have other options as above. Sends a bad message to the squad if he keeps his place v Cardiff. |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 19, 2019 12:58:36 GMT 1
Jesus wept. This is a lad still adjusting. Over the summer lots here were salivating about Bacuna staying the season and us keeping him.
He’s had a shocker the other night but let’s give him chance. A change of Manager and tactics may suit his game more.
If he doesn’t turn out to be a world beater he’s young enough to be sold on as a prospect.
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Aug 19, 2019 13:21:54 GMT 1
Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 13:21:54 GMT 1
This might be a Bacuna thread but we could be talking about almost any player on the field especially the likes of Mounie ,Mbenza Flo and Kachunga.
Sadly the present main strength of the first team is mainly made up of last seasons failures , and the strength in depth of the first team squad to cover injuries,suspensions and players showing poor form are mainly those incoming who were on the field v Lincoln.
So many of our fans thought many of last seasons premier league failures would struggle at a lower league level ,and that has becoming evident looking at present form.
It also seems the club are now back in DEBT to the past chairman Mr Hoyle , and this has put the club back at least a season especially with the lack of this seasons first part parachute payment that were vital to bringing in those with the ability to do the job expected of them.
It really makes me wonder if that debt would be double had the club spent big last January as Hoyle did say he would not let the club sleepwalk into relegation,and that money spent would have been an added part of his mentioned £50 million loan
Every player has a market value ,but there is a case here when the club needs to take what they can get for certain flops simply because in the real world , a player is only worth what another club is willing to pay.
For example Mounie is not worth £11.5 million and never was plus same can be said for some of the other retained big money signing flops
Mooy should have been sold at his present rated value of £10 to 15 million as those funds would have gone along way even if trying to help clear the present debt
I dont know what would happen if he got badly injured at Brighton ,or there was a big drop in his form
Any manager coming in would have to do with the present retained players what both Wagner and Siewert failed to do this and last season , so maybe a case here of being careful what you wish for
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Aug 19, 2019 13:32:00 GMT 1
Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 13:32:00 GMT 1
Still hasn't won a competitive game for us has he? 20-odd games now. Give the lad a break because I've no doubt this would affect anyone... Didn't he play v Wolves at home? He needs dropping to the bench for now. If we're persisting with 433 then Hogg, O'Brien and Chalobah should be in the middle v Cardiff. I think with careful coaching and man management he could still offer us something in the future but we can't afford anyone playing so consistently poor especially when we have other options as above. Sends a bad message to the squad if he keeps his place v Cardiff. No. Never been in a winning Town team. |
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Aug 19, 2019 13:35:25 GMT 1
Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 13:35:25 GMT 1
The only bench i would like to see him on is at Huddersfield railway station with the above mentioned shite ,and F--K em all off to where they came from before they humiliate the club any further
I would certainly like to know what these flops are being paid
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2019 13:37:38 GMT 1
Didn't he play v Wolves at home? He needs dropping to the bench for now. If we're persisting with 433 then Hogg, O'Brien and Chalobah should be in the middle v Cardiff. I think with careful coaching and man management he could still offer us something in the future but we can't afford anyone playing so consistently poor especially when we have other options as above. Sends a bad message to the squad if he keeps his place v Cardiff. No. Never been in a winning Town team. Well he definitely played against Wolves cos he won the ball and gave it to Mooy for the cross Mounie put away. Maybe we haven't won a game he's started. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2019 13:40:00 GMT 1
The only bench i would like to see him on is at Huddersfield railway station with the above mentioned shite ,and F--K em all off to where they came from before they humiliate the club any further I would certainly like to know what these flops are being paid  So if we get shut of every player that's humiliated the club will we have anyone left if we think of last season or the Lincoln loss as humiliations ? 🤔 |
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Post by bacuna on Aug 19, 2019 13:47:58 GMT 1
Didn't he play v Wolves at home? He needs dropping to the bench for now. If we're persisting with 433 then Hogg, O'Brien and Chalobah should be in the middle v Cardiff. I think with careful coaching and man management he could still offer us something in the future but we can't afford anyone playing so consistently poor especially when we have other options as above. Sends a bad message to the squad if he keeps his place v Cardiff. No. Never been in a winning Town team. Came on in the 2nd half vs Wolves (for Duhaney). Never started in a winning town side would be the correct stat but the idiot commentators get it wrong when giving their idiot talking points. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 14:16:40 GMT 1
The only bench i would like to see him on is at Huddersfield railway station with the above mentioned shite ,and F--K em all off to where they came from before they humiliate the club any further I would certainly like to know what these flops are being paid  So if we get shut of every player that's humiliated the club will we have anyone left if we think of last season or the Lincoln loss as humiliations ? 🤔 Some can't see beyond the end of their bloody noses. 🙄 |
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Aug 19, 2019 14:21:50 GMT 1
Post by Town Duppy on Aug 19, 2019 14:21:50 GMT 1
So if we get shut of every player that's humiliated the club will we have anyone left if we think of last season or the Lincoln loss as humiliations ? 🤔 Some can't see beyond the end of their bloody noses. 🙄 Pinocchio can't. |
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Aug 19, 2019 14:35:12 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 19, 2019 14:35:12 GMT 1
Some can't see beyond the end of their bloody noses. 🙄 Pinocchio can't. Glad I didn't put that, Lord Dickhead would assume I was having a go at Phil Thompson 😉 |
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Aug 19, 2019 14:38:10 GMT 1
Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Aug 19, 2019 14:38:10 GMT 1
Reminds me of Chris Marsden, who was also prone to trying long passes. However, about 50% of Marsden’s passes found their man.....
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Aug 19, 2019 14:42:48 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Aug 19, 2019 14:42:48 GMT 1
I haven’t given up on him but why he got picked Friday is a mystery. Shocking in every game this season just rolling round saying he’s injured giving the ball away.
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Post by deadleg on Aug 19, 2019 15:01:16 GMT 1
Still hasn't won a competitive game for us has he? 20-odd games now. Give the lad a break because I've no doubt this would affect anyone... He could still be the next Gareth Bale then  |
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Aug 19, 2019 15:52:52 GMT 1
Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 15:52:52 GMT 1
The only bench i would like to see him on is at Huddersfield railway station with the above mentioned shite ,and F--K em all off to where they came from before they humiliate the club any further I would certainly like to know what these flops are being paid So if we get shut of every player that's humiliated the club will we have anyone left if we think of last season or the Lincoln loss as humiliations ? 🤔 Sadly thats the position the club finds themselves in today except for maybe an handful of players,and makes me wonder what someone saw to make them think that so many retained flops like Mounie , Mbenza and Bacuna could make it at the highest level of British football. The club stated in the close season that they had no need to sell any player at a loss ,but who in their right mind would pay £11.5 million for a goal drought Mounie |
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Aug 19, 2019 16:24:12 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:24:12 GMT 1
So if we get shut of every player that's humiliated the club will we have anyone left if we think of last season or the Lincoln loss as humiliations ? 🤔 Sadly thats the position the club finds themselves in today except for maybe an handful of players,and makes me wonder what someone saw to make them think that so many retained flops like Mounie , Mbenza and Bacuna could make it at the highest level of British football. The club stated in the close season that they had no need to sell any player at a loss ,but who in their right mind would pay £11.5 million for a goal drought Mounie You haven't always thought that way about so many of our 'retained flops'.  How would a Mounie/Depoitre strike force work ,and surely wont be long before it is tried and tested by Wagner The team seem to be spoilt for choice for players at the moment as nobody in our squad looks out of place in the Premier league. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 16:30:57 GMT 1
Didn't he play v Wolves at home? He needs dropping to the bench for now. If we're persisting with 433 then Hogg, O'Brien and Chalobah should be in the middle v Cardiff. I think with careful coaching and man management he could still offer us something in the future but we can't afford anyone playing so consistently poor especially when we have other options as above. Sends a bad message to the squad if he keeps his place v Cardiff. No. Never been in a winning Town team. He played in the victory against Wolves and his physical presence was a massive part of the winning goal... Skip to 3m25s... |
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