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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Aug 17, 2019 7:17:06 GMT 1
Jan was gone Wednesday morning, had we got the the 3rd goal last night he was never going to turn it around and a win would of delayed the inevitable... It’s likely Hudson will be in charge for a couple of games and in my opinion it would of been sensible to have started with Fulham instead as it would of been an easier introduction than Cardiff away..... if Hudson was to be appointed I would be underwhelmed, but everything about Town since beating wolves away has been underwhelming and I don’t see a change anytime soon.
As ridiculous as this may sound I would be underwhelmed by Chris Houghton.... Brighton survived last year because of 3 very poor teams below them... he had a decent budget and squad in obtaining promotion and whilst I respect his record at other clubs and this level particularly he just isn’t for me.
Although immensely unpopular at his past two employers I think Gary Rowett is the type of manager who has been written off far too early he and Danny Cowley would be the two towards the top of my shortlist. These are my realistic achievable options I can’t believe that there would be several on here that wouldn’t want Big Sam but this is never ever going to happen.
Whoever comes in has an unenviable task, of bringing together a disjointed squad lacking quality in key areas.
I will say that both EPL loans were on the whole impressive last night and I’m starting to believe the hype about Grant as 3 in 3 regardless of a bit of luck or from the spot is a significant positive but the vultures will be circling in January and we will probably not be in a position to turn it down.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 17, 2019 7:19:47 GMT 1
Rowett was in a very similar job at Stoke last summer and didn't cut it. No point repeating the same here
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Aug 17, 2019 7:32:19 GMT 1
Stoke was a different job, there was an expectancy (apart from a blinkered few of our fans) and budget there far more significant than ours.
I don’t judge him at Stoke, I judge him on Burton Albion, Birmingham (far more comparable to our current standing) and Derby, Stoke didn’t work out for him and it doesn’t look to be going too well for Nathan Jones either.
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 17, 2019 7:35:05 GMT 1
You would expect the new DoF would have some input, although I would never take anything for granted at Town.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 17, 2019 7:37:13 GMT 1
Stoke was a different job, there was an expectancy (apart from a blinkered few of our fans) and budget there far more significant than ours. I don’t judge him at Stoke, I judge him on Burton Albion, Birmingham (far more comparable to our current standing) and Derby, Stoke didn’t work out for him and it doesn’t look to be going too well for Nathan Jones either. Who.would be a better option imo |
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Aug 17, 2019 7:44:13 GMT 1
Stoke was a different job, there was an expectancy (apart from a blinkered few of our fans) and budget there far more significant than ours. I don’t judge him at Stoke, I judge him on Burton Albion, Birmingham (far more comparable to our current standing) and Derby, Stoke didn’t work out for him and it doesn’t look to be going too well for Nathan Jones either. Looks at the pre season polls on DATM, there was clearly expectation of a promotion push from a majority of town fans. I'd say the Stoke job is a good comparison and I don't really see that Rowett has had much success anywhere to be honest beyond the odd good month or two of form. Hughton on the other hand, by ignoring his consistently good work at various clubs and focusing on one tricky season, I think you're being unfair on him. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 17, 2019 8:06:42 GMT 1
Stoke was a different job, there was an expectancy (apart from a blinkered few of our fans) and budget there far more significant than ours. I don’t judge him at Stoke, I judge him on Burton Albion, Birmingham (far more comparable to our current standing) and Derby, Stoke didn’t work out for him and it doesn’t look to be going too well for Nathan Jones either. Who.would be a better option imo Is that The Who, the 1960's band? |
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Aug 17, 2019 8:06:47 GMT 1
The pre season polls were pre Mooy departure and the expectancy that we might invest in the squad, it depends how you view our squad currently sadly I think we are 2 full backs short of a very decent first eleven if set up properly but I would suggest that expectation levels have dropped slightly since then.
It’s all about opinions but I find Hughton dour and feel he has been at clubs at this level who should of done what they did under him, I look at Rowett and see an excellent job at Burton in particular and decent jobs at Birmingham and Derby so much so that he was poached by Stoke and whilst he failed I still think it’s too early to write him off, I at no stage said Hughton was a bad manager just not for me.
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Aug 17, 2019 8:08:29 GMT 1
Stoke was a different job, there was an expectancy (apart from a blinkered few of our fans) and budget there far more significant than ours. I don’t judge him at Stoke, I judge him on Burton Albion, Birmingham (far more comparable to our current standing) and Derby, Stoke didn’t work out for him and it doesn’t look to be going too well for Nathan Jones either. Looks at the pre season polls on DATM, there was clearly expectation of a promotion push from a majority of town fans. I'd say the Stoke job is a good comparison and I don't really see that Rowett has had much success anywhere to be honest beyond the odd good month or two of form. Hughton on the other hand, by ignoring his consistently good work at various clubs and focusing on one tricky season, I think you're being unfair on him. Agreed but there isn't a cat in hell's chance Hughton would come here. People need to get him out of their heads. Our stock has collapsed. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 17, 2019 8:09:34 GMT 1
The pre season polls were pre Mooy departure and the expectancy that we might invest in the squad, it depends how you view our squad currently sadly I think we are 2 full backs short of a very decent first eleven if set up properly but I would suggest that expectation levels have dropped slightly since then. It’s all about opinions but I find Hughton dour and feel he has been at clubs at this level who should of done what they did under him, I look at Rowett and see an excellent job at Burton in particular and decent jobs at Birmingham and Derby so much so that he was poached by Stoke and whilst he failed I still think it’s too early to write him off, I at no stage said Hughton was a bad manager just not for me. To be fair mate "dour" is the word used most often when describing Rowett |
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Post by Nabysarratemyhamster on Aug 17, 2019 8:18:48 GMT 1
I suppose it’s how you take to someone, but I would agree some have suggested his football to be dour, There doesn’t seem to be much objection to my other suggestion Danny Cowley if you look at the step ups he has taken we seem the natural progression, but there is a possibility he would turn us down.
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Post by chinaski on Aug 17, 2019 8:20:40 GMT 1
The pre season polls were pre Mooy departure and the expectancy that we might invest in the squad, it depends how you view our squad currently sadly I think we are 2 full backs short of a very decent first eleven if set up properly but I would suggest that expectation levels have dropped slightly since then. It’s all about opinions but I find Hughton dour and feel he has been at clubs at this level who should of done what they did under him, I look at Rowett and see an excellent job at Burton in particular and decent jobs at Birmingham and Derby so much so that he was poached by Stoke and whilst he failed I still think it’s too early to write him off, I at no stage said Hughton was a bad manager just not for me. To be fair mate "dour" is the word used most often when describing Rowett Even Rowett recognised last night that Pritchard is utterly wasted out wide pre-match. |
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