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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 21:34:50 GMT 1
Was talking to cheif examiner at cricket today, he also thinks this. Imo our only aim is to stay up and they could probably do this. Did you ask him what happens if we lose our first five games? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 17, 2019 21:42:20 GMT 1
Well Jan has taken the brunt of the abuse but I've not seen a single shred of evidence that these players are well coached and guess who is one of our coaches? And imply a subordinate is responsible, how? Surely he's partly responsible, it's a management and coaching team. Or is that only when things are going well? Take credit when you can but distance yourself when it's going tits up |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 17, 2019 21:47:04 GMT 1
It’s a conundrum. I’d imagine these two aren’t going anywhere, which means an external candidate won’t be bringing in their own team. Has Bell gone? I’d imagine Webb will be the main man in selecting the new management team - it won’t be a simple job to put the jigsaw together. I suspect Bell and Bockhorn are seriously regretting coming here now. Another Assistant Mgr to be paid off and another lad to be put in the stiffs. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 17, 2019 21:48:37 GMT 1
It’s a conundrum. I’d imagine these two aren’t going anywhere, which means an external candidate won’t be bringing in their own team. Has Bell gone? I’d imagine Webb will be the main man in selecting the new management team - it won’t be a simple job to put the jigsaw together. I suspect Bell and Bockhorn are seriously regretting coming here now. Another Assistant Mgr to be paid off and another lad to be put in the stiffs. If PH sacks Bell will he be acting on Impulse ? ;-) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2019 22:09:46 GMT 1
And imply a subordinate is responsible, how? Surely he's partly responsible, it's a management and coaching team. Or is that only when things are going well? Take credit when you can but distance yourself when it's going tits up The boss is responsible for the team who implement his instructions. When did Hudson claim credit & then distance himself? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 17, 2019 22:16:17 GMT 1
Let's just see how they go. If we win the next 4 with this squad, it will be hard to say no, maybe Hudson is ready. Anyone thinking it will be Hughton better get a reality check on our finances. Are there fairies at the bottom of your garden? It is one win in 30 and you talk of 4 wins on the spin. We are averaging 2 shots on target. And then you mention reality check!!!!! |
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Post by joshuajones on Aug 17, 2019 22:22:55 GMT 1
Think Hudson and dean whitehead should be given till the end of the season. They both know the club inside as out. Will command the respect of the senior squad. Both worked closely with Wagner in our promotion season. Saves us bringing in some journeyman manager. Think they could definitely be the right fit for the club at this moment in time. Why would anybody want this? Just keep Siewert. They are at the same level #noexperience |
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Post by Jack on Aug 17, 2019 22:25:14 GMT 1
Whitehead could probably do a job in a 433 and I'm not sure Elphick is any better than Hudson.
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Post by Metch on Aug 17, 2019 22:32:39 GMT 1
Let's just see how they go. If we win the next 4 with this squad, it will be hard to say no, maybe Hudson is ready. Anyone thinking it will be Hughton better get a reality check on our finances. Are there fairies at the bottom of your garden? It is one win in 30 and you talk of 4 wins on the spin. We are averaging 2 shots on target. And then you mention reality check!!!!! Never said i was expecting it, it would be a bloody miracle! Hence if he pulls it off, give Hudson the job. Unfortunately in the real world, we are in for a few tough months until January. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 18, 2019 8:00:25 GMT 1
Will they make us create chances ?
How will they make any of those shambles score when we only have one Bloke who can in KG ?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 8:06:34 GMT 1
Are there fairies at the bottom of your garden? It is one win in 30 and you talk of 4 wins on the spin. We are averaging 2 shots on target. And then you mention reality check!!!!! Never said i was expecting it, it would be a bloody miracle! Hence if he pulls it off, give Hudson the job. Unfortunately in the real world, we are in for a few tough months until January. That kind of short termism led to Ole Gunnar getting the United job when Pochettino was obviously the sensible decision |
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Post by waggers on Aug 18, 2019 8:29:51 GMT 1
I disagree I don't think they should have the job but I think we should let them take charge whilst we take our time finding the right man.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 18, 2019 8:32:58 GMT 1
Never said i was expecting it, it would be a bloody miracle! Hence if he pulls it off, give Hudson the job. Unfortunately in the real world, we are in for a few tough months until January. That kind of short termism led to Ole Gunnar getting the United job when Pochettino was obviously the sensible decision Didn't baby-face win 8 games running, though? The Utd board could hardly say no after that sort of run! Thought it was fan pressure that brought that one about. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 8:34:41 GMT 1
I disagree I don't think they should have the job but I think we should let them take charge whilst we take our time finding the right man. I'd be surprised if they don't already know the 'right man'. Meanwhile Hudson has taken charge. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 8:45:50 GMT 1
That kind of short termism led to Ole Gunnar getting the United job when Pochettino was obviously the sensible decision Didn't baby-face win 8 games running, though? The Utd board could hardly say no after that sort of run! Thought it was fan pressure that brought that one about. They won 8 games against the likes of Town. Bet they are regretting it now it's been a car crash ever since. Meanwhile 200 miles away the guy who could have brought them medium and long term success is courting them. I still think he will be United manager unless he goes to one of the footballing giants before they sack Ole |
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Post by Melc on Aug 18, 2019 8:57:10 GMT 1
Hodgkinson has got to get this appointment right, no cheap options, this is his chance to show what ambition he has for this club.
He says he has the funds to run the club, he says he does not do average....well we are all waiting now to see if he backs that up!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:02:22 GMT 1
Hodgkinson has got to get this appointment right, no cheap options, this is his chance to show what ambition he has for this club. He says he has the funds to run the club, he says he does not do average....well we are all waiting now to see if he backs that up! So who would be "average " . And who would not be ? It's easy to use sound bites it's a bit.more difficult coming up with a name. No manager is guaranteed of success |
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 18, 2019 9:09:19 GMT 1
Wouldn't suprise me if they've been watching some smuck in the 5th division of the Uzbekistan league for the last year.
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Post by ram on Aug 18, 2019 9:16:14 GMT 1
In my experience,you cannot put blokes who are mates in charge of their mates.
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Post by Metch on Aug 18, 2019 9:18:59 GMT 1
Never said i was expecting it, it would be a bloody miracle! Hence if he pulls it off, give Hudson the job. Unfortunately in the real world, we are in for a few tough months until January. That kind of short termism led to Ole Gunnar getting the United job when Pochettino was obviously the sensible decision I'm saying whoever is in charge, it will be a long haul. The squad is full of imbalances, dead wood that needs to be moved. One thing that Phil may be correct on is that it will take three windows to sort out. |
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Post by Melc on Aug 18, 2019 9:20:52 GMT 1
Hodgkinson has got to get this appointment right, no cheap options, this is his chance to show what ambition he has for this club. He says he has the funds to run the club, he says he does not do average....well we are all waiting now to see if he backs that up! So who would be "average " . And who would not be ? It's easy to use sound bites it's a bit.more difficult coming up with a name. No manager is guaranteed of success I am not interested in a name, all I want is a manager who can get this club back to winning football matches with a bit of style and scoring some goals. We need someone who the players will respect and take notice of and most importantly buy into his ideas! We have had proof first hand over the last eight months what average coaches bring to the table, now is not the time to bring in or put someone like Hudson in permanent. As for your comment about there are no guarantees, you are correct, but can we really afford to take a bigger gamble on someone unproved again? If I where to pluck a name or two out of the air I think Hughton or someone like Moyes would be ok, but whether we could entice people like that is another question, but someone of ability should be able to turn this squad around, because it is certainly under achieving. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Aug 18, 2019 9:25:50 GMT 1
I've genuinely no idea who I think will get the job, in fact if the truth be known I don't know who I would like to get the job.
Over the past 40+ years I've seen an awful lot come and go, since Bobby Collins and then Tom Johnston were in charge in my first season, as a rule of thumb if they seemed to me to be a good appointment, MacDaonald, Horton, Bruce they've ended up a bad one, Jacko 1st time an obvious exception, Clark and Grayson more difficult to quantify), if it's been a case of "who" as in Buxton and Wagner they've worked out well (Siewert would be an obvious exception) and if it's been an "Ohh no, not him", Wadsworth, Ritchie they've lived upto their promise.
The simple truth is whoever the new owner goes with will do well to get 51% approval from the fans before he takes charge of his first game and probably has no more than a 1 in 5 chance of being a success by gaining promotion, what they can do though is restore some faith in the club and at least make us entertaining again.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:26:05 GMT 1
That kind of short termism led to Ole Gunnar getting the United job when Pochettino was obviously the sensible decision I'm saying whoever is in charge, it will be a long haul. The squad is full of imbalances, dead wood that needs to be moved. One thing that Phil may be correct on is that it will take three windows to sort out. I think Phil was spot on with that and was surprised people couldn't understand that. Indeed he has copped a lot of flak for it which is just bonkers |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 9:36:45 GMT 1
I'm saying whoever is in charge, it will be a long haul. The squad is full of imbalances, dead wood that needs to be moved. One thing that Phil may be correct on is that it will take three windows to sort out. I think Phil was spot on with that and was surprised people couldn't understand that. Indeed he has copped a lot of flak for it which is just bonkers I think the fact we need any windows to sort out squad out is what frustratingly and upsetting for people. The prem campaign seems to have hurt us more than helped us and this is hard for everyone to accept. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 9:37:48 GMT 1
I'm saying whoever is in charge, it will be a long haul. The squad is full of imbalances, dead wood that needs to be moved. One thing that Phil may be correct on is that it will take three windows to sort out. I think Phil was spot on with that and was surprised people couldn't understand that. Indeed he has copped a lot of flak for it which is just bonkers I think the fact we need any windows to sort our squad out is what is frustrating and upsetting for people. The prem campaign seems to have hurt us more than helped us and this is hard for everyone to accept. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 18, 2019 9:39:38 GMT 1
Didn't baby-face win 8 games running, though? The Utd board could hardly say no after that sort of run! Thought it was fan pressure that brought that one about. They won 8 games against the likes of Town. Bet they are regretting it now it's been a car crash ever since. Meanwhile 200 miles away the guy who could have brought them medium and long term success is courting them. I still think he will be United manager unless he goes to one of the footballing giants before they sack Ole Had to refresh my memory - so just checked - and it seems Solskjaer's Utd fell away badly after beating PSG 3-1 away to everyone's surprise. So what went wrong after that? Quality in depth too thin in Utd's squad to be playing 3 games a week, and not being able to strengthen substantially in the January due to most of the transfer kitty being wasted on Sanchez? Not sure, but anyway, as regards Hudson, I really hope we don't let any more key players go, otherwise it's going to be difficult persuading someone of top-class merit to come here. So we might have to chance our arm with Hudson. I mean OK, no-one is expecting him to go on an 8-match winning run, but if Town can get 5 or 6 points against Cardiff, Reading and Luton? Might be tempting for PH to keep him on. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 18, 2019 9:40:44 GMT 1
I think Phil was spot on with that and was surprised people couldn't understand that. Indeed he has copped a lot of flak for it which is just bonkers I think the fact we need any windows to sort out squad out is what frustratingly and upsetting for people. The prem campaign seems to have hurt us more than helped us and this is hard for everyone to accept. Well it hasn't hurt us more than helped us . Cos we have better players more dough and a training complex. The hurt comes from missed opportunity. It's completely unravelled in 2019 . So it might hurt to hear the truth but it's still the truth . |
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Post by basil on Aug 18, 2019 9:49:33 GMT 1
They won 8 games against the likes of Town. Bet they are regretting it now it's been a car crash ever since. Meanwhile 200 miles away the guy who could have brought them medium and long term success is courting them. I still think he will be United manager unless he goes to one of the footballing giants before they sack Ole Had to refresh my memory - so just checked - and it seems Solskjaer's Utd fell away badly after beating PSG 3-1 away to everyone's surprise. So what went wrong after that? Quality in depth too thin in Utd's squad to be playing 3 games a week, and not being able to strengthen substantially in the January due to most of the transfer kitty being wasted on Sanchez? Not sure, but anyway, as regards Hudson, I really hope we don't let any more key players go, otherwise it's going to be difficult persuading someone of top-class merit to come here. So we might have to chance our arm with Hudson. I mean OK, no-one is expecting him to go on an 8-match winning run, but if Town can get 5 or 6 points against Cardiff, Reading and Luton? Might be tempting for PH to keep him on. The players will be enthused to be shut of a manager that they were not happy with. There should be a bounce, how high remains to be seen, but that bounce would be there even if you or I were in charge. |
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Post by terriers321 on Aug 18, 2019 9:53:09 GMT 1
We can't give it Hudson or Whitehead because certain fans would throw their toys out of the pram And rightly so. We could be looking at a relegation battle here. Bring in someone with experience to try and steady the ship. If it's still a load of shite then the blame lies with the board and the recruitment of the past couple of years. |
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Post by sykeylad on Aug 18, 2019 10:00:24 GMT 1
Just because Hudson has no experience or hasn't got to be bought for a fortune doesn't mean he isn't up to it. He will have learned a lot from DW. Probably learned a lot of what not to do from JS.
A lot depends on his ambition, ability, etc.
He might want someone to come in. He might be desperate to take an opportunity if he gets one. Let's see how we go.
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