Time for a new identity

[Big Ern]

The Wagner era was a badly needed boost to what was becoming an increasingly apathetic fan base. Promotion aside, the whole ethos of the club changed from one of negativity to one of positivity. The fans were once again engaged and in his first season the green shoots of recovery were there to be seen. The second and third seasons were nothing short of fairytale.

Last season the signs were there that the that we had been riding was starting to die down. Wagner changed the way we played and all of the positivity created through our style soon turned to negativity. The new no limits huddersfield town started to revert to the town of old. Not good enough and afraid of the opposition.

Apathy once again started to set in and soon after Wagner left. At this point we should have reviewed our 'identity'. Nothing lasts forever and instead of looking to create a new identity we persisted with more of the same by appointing Jan. That identity/ culture, call it what you will had run its course.

To quote a well known film, "losers always whine about doing their best, winners go home and fuck the prom queen".

If we are to get huddersfield town back up that table then things need to change. This club has been living in the past for a long long long time. Those who are on their way up live in the present. We need to create a winning mentality and that comes from within, starting at the very top. Fuck consolidation!! We have 11 players who on their day should piss the top 6 so let's stop believing we are inferior and start acting like we are the best.

It's time for us to change the culture, forget the past and to create a new winning mentality. We have a chance, let's take it.

[Mecha Corte]

I agree with your sentiments but at the moment it feels like we put our last £5 on red and it came up black.

[Larry David]

I don't get this identity thing.

I just want a football manager who has tactics and respect and who can motivate his players

That's not an identity...it's just a minimal expectation really.

[Deleted]

The Big Dippers......the scariest rollercoaster ride in English soccer. We're currently on the near-vertical downward leg........aaaaarrrrrrrggggggg!!!!!

[Deleted]

Aug 17, 2019 17:18:10 GMT 1 Larry David said:

I don't get this identity thing.

I just want a football manager who has tactics and respect and who can motivate his players

That's not an identity...it's just a minimal expectation really.

Yep... the OP smacks of bullshit bingo, cooperate speak nonsense. 

Get a manager who has the wits and desire to make use of a young talented squad and we'll be okay. 

[chinaski]

It definitely helps to have a style of play developed.

All successful teams have an identifiable way of playing. Whether that’s pressing/direct/counter it’s at least a plan - something we’ve been missing for a while.

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Aug 17, 2019 17:59:40 GMT 1 chinaski said:

It definitely helps to have a style of play developed.

All successful teams have an identifiable way of playing. Whether that’s pressing/direct/counter it’s at least a plan - something we’ve been missing for a while.

 

I think you'll find most successful teams have the personnel and tactical flexibility to change things on the fly... and that's where the last two managers struggled hugely. 

Scott Parker knew that last night and gave Jan a lesson after Town dominated the first 30 mins.

[rubicon]

Oh boy, if you really don't get the Wagner identity thing, then I truly feel sorry for you. Here was a guy, who was happy, cheerful, exuberant, and fully involved with HTFC and Dean Hoyle. A bloke who always had a smile on his face, did Christmas videos, joined in, even inebriated with every celebration.
No I'm not up David Wagners arse, just since 1964 I've only ever seen Ian Greaves get the same out of a team, and it was nowhere near as open, and feeling like this guy was one of us. Those who think the football was dire, are completely bonkers. the promotion season was terrific, with perhaps the exception of the last half dozen games, when he managed it for what we could realistically expect. When we were drawing 1-1 in certain games, who did you expect to score the winner, Town or the opposition. Yes you know full well, and 99% of the time, Town did.
Who's forgetting Leeds, Brighton home, Norwich Rotherham away etc etc. What is wrong with you?
Now I readily admit, things went pear shaped. I don't know how involved he was with the crap signings, I would suggest very little, considering how little he played them. I truly think Cardiff away was the final straw and he was close to a breakdown, so the club and him, did the best thing for his sanity.
Maybe he has his faults, finds it hard to cope with adversity and limitations, but anyone who thinks Wagner lacked desire and motivation for his players, is quite simply deluded. Yes you can only do the wilderness thing once and get away with it, but only if you're the right person. Some people will never realise how lucky they were to see this period, and I say that after 54 years of watching Town.

[digs]

We've had Identity,no limits,belive,terrier spirit ect,all sorts of bullshit,what we need is #stopsigningshite

[dugnet]

Aug 17, 2019 18:15:41 GMT 1 rubicon said:

Oh boy, if you really don't get the Wagner identity thing, then I truly feel sorry for you. Here was a guy, who was happy, cheerful, exuberant, and fully involved with HTFC and Dean Hoyle. A bloke who always had a smile on his face, did Christmas videos, joined in, even inebriated with every celebration.
No I'm not up David Wagners arse, just since 1964 I've only ever seen Ian Greaves get the same out of a team, and it was nowhere near as open, and feeling like this guy was one of us. Those who think the football was dire, are completely bonkers. the promotion season was terrific, with perhaps the exception of the last half dozen games, when he managed it for what we could realistically expect. When we were drawing 1-1 in certain games, who did you expect to score the winner, Town or the opposition. Yes you know full well, and 99% of the time, Town did.
Who's forgetting Leeds, Brighton home, Norwich Rotherham away etc etc. What is wrong with you?
Now I readily admit, things went pear shaped. I don't know how involved he was with the crap signings, I would suggest very little, considering how little he played them. I truly think Cardiff away was the final straw and he was close to a breakdown, so the club and him, did the best thing for his sanity.
Maybe he has his faults, finds it hard to cope with adversity and limitations, but anyone who thinks Wagner lacked desire and motivation for his players, is quite simply deluded. Yes you can only do the wilderness thing once and get away with it, but only if you're the right person. Some people will never realise how lucky they were to see this period, and I say that after 54 years of watching Town.

I think remiss to omit Mick Buxton, really dragged the club up from rock bottom.

[dugnet]

The identity across the club has gone from #nolimits to #outofourcomfortzoneandbacktowherewecamefrom

I think the speed of deterioration is what has taken everyone back, in fact I don't think any of us have really got our heads round what's happened.

[rubicon]

I agree dugnet, and my apologies. I was in Essex during that period, trying to afford a mortgage working for the NHS and with young children. My experience of that era was Southend and Colchester away, and I took my son to Southend regular.
He's still a Southend supporter to this day at age 42, though he's not averse to watching Town on Boxing Day if dad is paying!