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Post by irverino on Aug 25, 2019 10:54:52 GMT 1
I saw MH leaving the ground. I was going to wish him well, however he was bathed in sweat... and I mean bathed... and he looked absolutely fucking furious. I gave him a wide berth he looked possessed. Did he have his hat on? Or left it in the ring......for now!
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Post by crux on Aug 25, 2019 11:11:50 GMT 1
If you go back to when Wagner came, we exploded against Middlesbrough and against Sheffield Wednesday. If your looking for impact, the fact that it was so obvious the players weren't fit enough was what reinforced Wagners plight. Hudson has come in as boss and basically had the exact same impact as Wagner and hes deemed not good enough because its Mark Hudson. I've woke up this morning thinking he could maybe be the chosen one. Sometimes you need to look under your nose before looking over the fence. Would we be happy if Hudson got us back to playing in the Wagner way??? Its a tough one because we didn't seem to score many goals and I feel a fan base that wants to win games 3 and 4 nil. I don't often agree with your posts, but I agree with this. Although we lost the game and didn't score a goal I was much more optimistic for the outcome of the season after the game than before kick off. We looked like a team and if we get fitter we can play at a high tempo for 90 minutes . Jaden Brown looked like a left back rather than the frightened schoolboy he looked like against Lincoln. Diakhaby showed some decent flashes and VLP did well until he tired (I'm not his greatest fan). An attacking coach would help, although Campbell's experience will also be useful. The only player who really had a stinker was Mbenza and I think I've finally lost patience with him 😕
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Post by dugnet on Aug 25, 2019 11:17:12 GMT 1
Hudson has nothing to lose, he has everything to gain. I respect his honesty and the shape of the team made sense and was coherent.
The fact he is being candid about fitness and what needs to improve is also to his credit. I wouldn't make too much of his previous role as Siewert was "head coach" and already had the public backing of the new Chairman. He may have challenged Siewert and said " We need to be fitter". It doesn't mean he could change it. It's also highly unlikely he'd go to PH and raise his concerns given PH had said he was on the same page as Siewert.
Is Hudson the right man for the job? I look at it this way. Given we can't change much until January and it has been identified we aren't fit enough I would ask; Would any other coach be able to change much initially? Hudson at least has a plan and a style of play. It's difficult to say how good a motivator he is yet.
He knows the club and was here in the successful period. He clearly has learned from DW but without trying to clone him.
Unless there is a truly outstanding candidate interviewed I am leaning towards Hudson being an option worth pursuing.
PH has made comment, he doesn't seem to be learning here, that we won't be appointing a "cheque book manager ". What the he'll in this era is a "cheque book manager "?? So we can assume we are looking at a credible head coach. Hudson may well fit the bill if money is tight.
The fact is that whoever gets the job right now has a challenge. At least we know Hudson and can relate to him. He is probably likely to do as well as anyone in the next 4 months.
All in all we have just wasted a summer pre season and a transfer window. I wonder if we are still 3 Windows away now??
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 11:47:58 GMT 1
It was very hot yesterday afternoon and for an hour they played fast attacking football. This was after 90 minutes away on Wednesday night. For Hudson to complain they can't play that way for 96 minutes is just pushing the blame away from him as a manager. His job is to make sure they are prepared for the game, which they looked for that first hour, but also to analyse the opposition and have a plan to combat their style. For Reading that is sit deep, with a solid defence, and let the opposition burn themselves out. Their plan worked, what was Mark Hudson's other than we should shoot more often? He had them playing a fast, high pressing game, in hot weather with a gap of 2 days between games and it is their fault for not being fit enough? Bollocks! It has proved to me we need a manager who can properly manage them and get the best out of the what we have. For me Mark Hudson is not that man. We’ve conceded a lot of late goals this season - there’s a trend and fitness seems an issue Is it though? Perhaps it is confidence and application dropping when you give it your all but just don't ahead. The second Cardiff goal was not tiredness it was slack defending, the culprit, IMHO, getting dropped yesterday partly because of it. Cardiff and Reading had a plan. Not great to watch, nowhere near as entertaining as Town, but they both beat us. Tactics. Apply some nouse to skills that we have, not just get them to run around a lot. Chalobah and Pritchard attacked through the middle but no wide players came in to boost numbers, so they just had Grant against a bank of four or more defenders. We need better tactics to give us better attacking options. This is what the coach should be doing. There won't be many football fans who don't know what Town's problem is, and it is not only being able to run around for 70 minutes.
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Post by Melc on Aug 25, 2019 12:40:53 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights of the scum v Stoke one touch football pass to someone on the same side and move maybe we should introduce a fine system to stop our players taking three and four touches in every move it’s all too slow plus Flo is not a footballer we need to put anybody in his place and I mean anybody whoever we get as manager has to double the speed we play UTT oh yes they had shots at goal as well radical ideas They have had there fair share of poor managers/coaches, but now have gone for a experienced coach with ideas and a good system that has changed them completely with mainly the same squad. That is what we need to do, but that costs decent money and sadly don’t see Ohil doing that.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 25, 2019 12:46:16 GMT 1
Sorry but we are in deep shit and cannot risk giving the job to a rookie manager now. Sorry Mark.
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 25, 2019 12:57:26 GMT 1
Sorry but we are in deep shit and cannot risk giving the job to a rookie manager now. Sorry Mark. We really are deep in trouble but I’m not sure having an experienced manager really makes much difference It’s often just luck you need DW has no experience and there are many other examples I like the way huddy spoke. You could tell he was really annoyed but was also very calm.
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 25, 2019 13:00:40 GMT 1
Sorry but we are in deep shit and cannot risk giving the job to a rookie manager now. Sorry Mark. We really are deep in trouble but I’m not sure having an experienced manager really makes much difference It’s often just luck you need DW has no experience and there are many other examples I like the way huddy spoke. You could tell he was really annoyed but was also very calm. I take the point but I would prefer someone who has experience. I fear for Phil if he appoints hudson and it goes wrong... I don't think he can take that risk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 13:18:25 GMT 1
Sorry but we are in deep shit and cannot risk giving the job to a rookie manager now. Sorry Mark. We really are deep in trouble but I’m not sure having an experienced manager really makes much difference It’s often just luck you need DW has no experience and there are many other examples I like the way huddy spoke. You could tell he was really annoyed but was also very calm. He may be annoyed because he saw his chances of the job slipping away. I don’t want annoyed, I want it sorting out.
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Post by boooothy on Aug 25, 2019 13:23:48 GMT 1
He doesn’t deserve the job purely on the ridiculous substitutions he made.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 25, 2019 13:30:24 GMT 1
PH has made comment, he doesn't seem to be learning here, that we won't be appointing a "cheque book manager ".
If out new Chairman did say that then it just about sums up where we are headed. One more we will looking for the 'cheapest' candidate for the job. But 'cheap' in the short term is not necessarily 'cheap' in the grand scheme of things. If PH makes the wrong choice it will be his head next, Town will be in League One with a bunch of players on fat contracts for that level and little incentive. I would have thought that when an important job becomes on the market you appoint the best qualified person for it. Cost does not come into it and anyway when you think of how much we paid for Mbenza and Diakhaby in comparison to what we let Joe Lolly, Dwain Holmes and even Tommy Smith go for it looks rather ridiculuous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 13:38:47 GMT 1
PH has made comment, he doesn't seem to be learning here, that we won't be appointing a "cheque book manager ". If out new Chairman did say that then it just about sums up where we are headed. One more we will looking for the 'cheapest' candidate for the job. But 'cheap' in the short term is not necessarily 'cheap' in the grand scheme of things. If PH makes the wrong choice it will be his head next, Town will be in League One with a bunch of players on fat contracts for that level and little incentive. I would have thought that when an important job becomes on the market you appoint the best qualified person for it. Cost does not come into it and anyway when you think of how much we paid for Mbenza and Diakhaby in comparison to what we let Joe Lolly, Dwain Holmes and even Tommy Smith go for it looks rather ridiculuous. No problem then, what's Harry doing these days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 13:42:44 GMT 1
PH has made comment, he doesn't seem to be learning here, that we won't be appointing a "cheque book manager ". If out new Chairman did say that then it just about sums up where we are headed. One more we will looking for the 'cheapest' candidate for the job. But 'cheap' in the short term is not necessarily 'cheap' in the grand scheme of things. If PH makes the wrong choice it will be his head next, Town will be in League One with a bunch of players on fat contracts for that level and little incentive. I would have thought that when an I becauseportant job becomes on the market you appoint the best qualified person for it. Cost does not come into it and anyway when you think of how much we paid for Mbenza and Diakhaby in comparison to what we let Joe Lolly, Dwain Holmes and even Tommy Smith go for it looks rather ridiculuous. reading his comments in the examiner I didn't see anything wrong in what he said. read the full article because no one knows what the outcome will be.
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