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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 25, 2019 11:59:26 GMT 1
We’re absolutely fucked.
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Post by Stewpot on Aug 25, 2019 13:00:10 GMT 1
Very concise reporting. I agree with most of your points!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 25, 2019 13:02:47 GMT 1
Post of the month !
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 25, 2019 13:57:33 GMT 1
Don't labour the point will you.😂
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Post by Htfc1987 on Aug 25, 2019 13:58:45 GMT 1
Great post, 100% agree.
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Post by cappy on Aug 25, 2019 14:35:28 GMT 1
Well we was after 70 minutes. Well and truly fooked 🤤😭😭😭
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 25, 2019 14:55:38 GMT 1
Nice place to live though
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Post by terriertim on Aug 25, 2019 14:58:15 GMT 1
Spezial thinks we played a lot better - he even picked the squad - so who is right ?
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 25, 2019 15:25:26 GMT 1
Just looked at the Championship league table and the teams we have lost to are only mid-table teams. In other words we have not lost to the form sides yet. We are in deep, deep trouble and if we lose again next week at Luton, another pre-season relegation candidate and a club not long out of non-league we can start planning for Scunthorpe away et al all over again.
Where have those heady days of Herr Wagner gone!
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 15:28:36 GMT 1
Spezial thinks we played a lot better - he even picked the squad - so who is right ? We did play a lot better. Didn't get us a result, and we are still well and truly in the brown stuff, but we did perform much better than we have been doing. That said, Reading weren't particularly impressive and it's a worry we can't get a result against a team that we completely outplayed for more than half of the match. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 15:33:26 GMT 1
Just looked at the Championship league table and the teams we have lost to are only mid-table teams. In other words we have not lost to the form sides yet. We are in deep, deep trouble and if we lose again next week at Luton, another pre-season relegation candidate and a club not long out of non-league we can start planning for Scunthorpe away et al all over again. Where have those heady days of Herr Wagner gone! Just over a year ago we were celebrating survival in the Premier League. Now we are seriously contemplating a return to League One. Shows how quickly things can turn in football. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 25, 2019 15:39:14 GMT 1
Spezial thinks we played a lot better - he even picked the squad - so who is right ? We did play a lot better. Didn't get us a result, and we are still well and truly in the brown stuff, but we did perform much better than we have been doing. That said, Reading weren't particularly impressive and it's a worry we can't get a result against a team that we completely outplayed for more than half of the match. Let's hope the new manager knows about attacking penetrative football and is backed to sign a striker and some attack minded players in January. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 15:48:15 GMT 1
We did play a lot better. Didn't get us a result, and we are still well and truly in the brown stuff, but we did perform much better than we have been doing. That said, Reading weren't particularly impressive and it's a worry we can't get a result against a team that we completely outplayed for more than half of the match. Let's hope the new manager knows about attacking penetrative football and is backed to sign a striker and some attack minded players in January. Implementing some basic stuff would be a start, such as getting men in the box, instructing the midfield to go beyond the striker occasionally and attacking the front and back posts whenever we cross the ball. |
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Post by golcarexile on Aug 25, 2019 15:52:23 GMT 1
Spezial thinks we played a lot better - he even picked the squad - so who is right ? We did play a lot better. Didn't get us a result, and we are still well and truly in the brown stuff, but we did perform much better than we have been doing. That said, Reading weren't particularly impressive and it's a worry we can't get a result against a team that we completely outplayed for more than half of the match. Define outplayed though. The aim of the game is simple, put the ball in the opponent's goal while stopping them from doing the same at the other end. We once again failed on both counts. They executed their game plan perfectly. We lost 2-0. We weren't unlucky. We did not do the fundamentals well enough. Reading were the better team. End of. |
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 16:04:16 GMT 1
We did play a lot better. Didn't get us a result, and we are still well and truly in the brown stuff, but we did perform much better than we have been doing. That said, Reading weren't particularly impressive and it's a worry we can't get a result against a team that we completely outplayed for more than half of the match. Define outplayed though. The aim of the game is simple, put the ball in the opponent's goal while stopping them from doing the same at the other end. We once again failed on both counts. They executed their game plan perfectly. We lost 2-0. We weren't unlucky. We did not do the fundamentals well enough. Reading were the better team. End of. Reading hardly put two passes together for the first 20 mins, and only had one chance just before half time. In contrast, we totally dominated the ball, created two very good chances for Schindler and Pritchard, plus had a decent penalty shout when VLP went down in the area. Chalobah also had a very decent shot fly just wide. In the first half I would say that we outplayed Reading. The second half was a different story - Town didn't get going and Reading's simple tactic of hitting long balls up the pitch seemed to cause us more problems than they should. I accept Reading were the better side in the second half, scoring two goals and creating at least two other very good chances. We had a few chances in the second half, but we never really got going. I agree that Reading deserved their win - a worry because they weren't very impressive - but in the first half we were the better team in all aspects of the game except goals. I don't see a match in purely simplistic terms. Yes, the result is the most important aspect of any game, but the result does not always completely reflect the relative performances of both teams. Town were second best over 90 mins, but for long spells of the first half we were on top. I am sure if the roles had been reversed in the first half, you would have said Town were lucky to get in at half time with the scores level. I am not blind to our faults, but Town deserve a measure of praise for an improved performance. It wasn't good enough, but it was better than what we have been seeing. And that gives me a little bit of optimism. Not much, but some. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Aug 25, 2019 16:04:33 GMT 1
Was that really readings first away victory in 34 games?
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Post by Stewpot on Aug 25, 2019 16:38:29 GMT 1
We've been to the Riverside, Hillsborough and Hull.
And now we're off to Forest Green, Forest Green away. Forest Green away.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 25, 2019 16:40:06 GMT 1
We've been to the Riverside, Hillsborough and Hull. And now we're off to Forest Green, Forest Green away. Forest Green away. It’s a good day out. |
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Post by Stewpot on Aug 25, 2019 16:47:33 GMT 1
We've been to the Riverside, Hillsborough and Hull. And now we're off to Forest Green, Forest Green away. Forest Green away. It’s a good day out. I know, son in law is head groundsman. Adam Witchell. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 16:48:15 GMT 1
Why are fans looking for positives ? There are NO positives. We lost at home 2-0.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 25, 2019 18:08:17 GMT 1
Define outplayed though. The aim of the game is simple, put the ball in the opponent's goal while stopping them from doing the same at the other end. We once again failed on both counts. They executed their game plan perfectly. We lost 2-0. We weren't unlucky. We did not do the fundamentals well enough. Reading were the better team. End of. Reading hardly put two passes together for the first 20 mins, and only had one chance just before half time. In contrast, we totally dominated the ball, created two very good chances for Schindler and Pritchard, plus had a decent penalty shout when VLP went down in the area. Chalobah also had a very decent shot fly just wide. In the first half I would say that we outplayed Reading. The second half was a different story - Town didn't get going and Reading's simple tactic of hitting long balls up the pitch seemed to cause us more problems than they should. I accept Reading were the better side in the second half, scoring two goals and creating at least two other very good chances. We had a few chances in the second half, but we never really got going. I agree that Reading deserved their win - a worry because they weren't very impressive - but in the first half we were the better team in all aspects of the game except goals. I don't see a match in purely simplistic terms. Yes, the result is the most important aspect of any game, but the result does not always completely reflect the relative performances of both teams. Town were second best over 90 mins, but for long spells of the first half we were on top. I am sure if the roles had been reversed in the first half, you would have said Town were lucky to get in at half time with the scores level. I am not blind to our faults, but Town deserve a measure of praise for an improved performance. It wasn't good enough, but it was better than what we have been seeing. And that gives me a little bit of optimism. Not much, but some. "Possession" is the worst of all of the modern, meaningless stats. Just look at how many times we bossed possession last season - and even this - only to lose. Hell, we had 60% possession at Cardiff yet we were dreadful. Possession means means nowt; it's what you do with the ball when you have it and all we do is pish about at the back with it. Christ, even all of our free-kicks have been going backwards for the best part of three years. Give me a game where we have just 30-40% possession but win 1-0 anytime. Yes, I'm hacked-off by possession-based football and this crazy system of playing out from the back at less than pedestrian speed by players who clearly aren't up to it. Harrumph!!!!  |
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 21:07:38 GMT 1
Why are fans looking for positives ? There are NO positives. We lost at home 2-0. Perhaps some of us are more balanced and less simplistic than you are? |
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Post by ACW on Aug 25, 2019 21:11:30 GMT 1
Reading hardly put two passes together for the first 20 mins, and only had one chance just before half time. In contrast, we totally dominated the ball, created two very good chances for Schindler and Pritchard, plus had a decent penalty shout when VLP went down in the area. Chalobah also had a very decent shot fly just wide. In the first half I would say that we outplayed Reading. The second half was a different story - Town didn't get going and Reading's simple tactic of hitting long balls up the pitch seemed to cause us more problems than they should. I accept Reading were the better side in the second half, scoring two goals and creating at least two other very good chances. We had a few chances in the second half, but we never really got going. I agree that Reading deserved their win - a worry because they weren't very impressive - but in the first half we were the better team in all aspects of the game except goals. I don't see a match in purely simplistic terms. Yes, the result is the most important aspect of any game, but the result does not always completely reflect the relative performances of both teams. Town were second best over 90 mins, but for long spells of the first half we were on top. I am sure if the roles had been reversed in the first half, you would have said Town were lucky to get in at half time with the scores level. I am not blind to our faults, but Town deserve a measure of praise for an improved performance. It wasn't good enough, but it was better than what we have been seeing. And that gives me a little bit of optimism. Not much, but some. "Possession" is the worst of all of the modern, meaningless stats. Just look at how many times we bossed possession last season - and even this - only to lose. Hell, we had 60% possession at Cardiff yet we were dreadful. Possession means means nowt; it's what you do with the ball when you have it and all we do is pish about at the back with it. Christ, even all of our free-kicks have been going backwards for the best part of three years. Give me a game where we have just 30-40% possession but win 1-0 anytime. Yes, I'm hacked-off by possession-based football and this crazy system of playing out from the back at less than pedestrian speed by players who clearly aren't up to it. Harrumph!!!! I've seen plenty of games over the years when Town have had 30% possession and created fuck all. Having less possession didn’t help us under Siewert either. Personally I don't see having possession as a bad thing as long - as you say - we do something with it. I don't see it as an either/or situation. I'd rather we tried to dominate possession AND tried to be more potent with it rather than gave up possession and invited pressure which I don't think we could defend against. |
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