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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 1, 2019 8:43:43 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling  ? |
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Post by rastrick32 on Sept 1, 2019 8:45:32 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Isn't this called the District League? |
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Post by aksaiblue on Sept 1, 2019 9:04:09 GMT 1
50M wont get us a lot these days Otium, but I like the idea
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 1, 2019 9:44:19 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Don't you be expecting a fecking statue.. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 1, 2019 9:45:44 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? The majority of posters on here thought we’d be in the top 6 / top half Judgements on here typically up there with the Board’s! |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 1, 2019 9:47:03 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Depends on who's chairman....We don't need some chump with an over inflated ego and is fluent in incomprehensible rhetoric. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Sept 1, 2019 9:58:20 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Depends on who's chairman....We don't need some chump with an over inflated ego and is fluent in incomprehensible rhetoric. That's me out then. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 1, 2019 11:08:43 GMT 1
50M wont get us a lot these days Otium, but I like the idea No, but it would buy the club and let us change to my model. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 1, 2019 11:10:30 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Depends on who's chairman....We don't need some chump with an over inflated ego and is fluent in incomprehensible rhetoric. Hmmm....i never thought of that. Rotating Chairmen...like AIK Stockholm. One year at the top. |
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 1, 2019 11:16:59 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Depends on who's chairman....We don't need some chump with an over inflated ego and is fluent in incomprehensible rhetoric. Hmmm, now who might you be thinking of ...? |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 13:12:59 GMT 1
50M wont get us a lot these days Otium, but I like the idea No, but it would buy the club and let us change to my model. I’d do it, provided I had an active role. Only another 4,998 investors needed. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 1, 2019 13:31:27 GMT 1
No, but it would buy the club and let us change to my model. I’d do it, provided I had an active role. Only another 4,998 investors needed. I’m in. 4.997 remaining. |
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Post by conman on Sept 1, 2019 13:35:09 GMT 1
Count me in.. "Winter out"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 13:37:50 GMT 1
Thought this thread was to do with Martin Luther King. Disappointed
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Post by hantstownexile on Sept 1, 2019 13:38:28 GMT 1
I too have the same dream. I wouldn't hesitate. It's a yes from me TTID
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 1, 2019 13:40:34 GMT 1
Hope someone’s keeping count!
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Sept 1, 2019 13:53:48 GMT 1
How to make a small fortune from a football club. Invest a large one...
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Post by malcolmbrown on Sept 1, 2019 13:56:06 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? I like the suggestion but isn't it a bit of a left wing, socialist for you? |
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Post by Ibiza Town on Sept 1, 2019 14:02:02 GMT 1
I have a dream that this season hasn't really started, its just some prank from Paddy Power.
The real season actually kicks off in two weeks.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 1, 2019 15:21:43 GMT 1
No, but it would buy the club and let us change to my model. I’d do it, provided I had an active role. Only another 4,998 investors needed. I will do £50k then. Only 4,994 needed. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 1, 2019 15:24:19 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? I like the suggestion but isn't it a bit of a left wing, socialist for you? The State is for necessarily telling people what to do. Players are not people and a different approach is needed  Unfortunately football clubs have become businesses and toys for big boys egos....the truth is they belong to the fans...no fans...no club. |
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 17:41:24 GMT 1
Firstly a caveat. I genuinely would not mind watching us in the Conference. Naturally i believe we are a Championship club but i would settle for less. Just imagine if the fans owned the club. One man one vote. Everyone responsible, everyone included. Imagine starting a renaissance...refusing to ever pay a fee for a player or break club wages policies. A sustainable model where income always exceeds expenditure. It could be done...it is being done. We would never sit at the top table even if we spaffed £100 million a year (see current situation). The egos of Chairmen and owners know no bounds. A dreadful state of affairs. What are your thoughts... and i need 5000 fans to pledge £10 grand each to get this rolling ? Isn't this called the District League? Have you ever seen a average District League Teams Books. Not on the same planet |
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Post by sooty1957 on Sept 1, 2019 20:36:56 GMT 1
Been to see York City match recently who currently sit top of the Conference North and still get 2500 crowds.
Having done a bit of research about them and found even they are losing 1/2 million quid a season !
Being bank rolled by a local buisness man to the tune of millions !! (sound familiar)
Its certainly an expensive hobby this football lark.
P.S the quality of football at this level was not poor as expected and was far more entertaining than a TOWN match at the moment .... and I saw a WIN !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 3:25:53 GMT 1
Interesting idea. But I have to wonder is there a level in modern day football where you could actually operate on such a financial model?
Is there any league where you could actually live on your income and not get relegated?
Town lost money in league 1 and in the Championship.
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Post by Bubbles on Sept 3, 2019 6:24:10 GMT 1
Been to see York City match recently who currently sit top of the Conference North and still get 2500 crowds. Having done a bit of research about them and found even they are losing 1/2 million quid a season ! Being bank rolled by a local buisness man to the tune of millions !! (sound familiar) Its certainly an expensive hobby this football lark. P.S the quality of football at this level was not poor as expected and was far more entertaining than a TOWN match at the moment .... and I saw a WIN ! How could you see a WIN if you’re not a York fan? You see a WIN every week being a Town fan,it’s just it’s the other team doing the winning! |
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Post by digs on Sept 3, 2019 8:06:35 GMT 1
The club would fold in minutes with 5,000 Town fans arguing over what the  should be |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 8:47:28 GMT 1
Be careful here, we don't want to end up with a Wimbledon / MK Dons situation. I don't fancy a 1250 mile trek East to Gdansk for home games.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 9:33:13 GMT 1
Interesting idea. But I have to wonder is there a level in modern day football where you could actually operate on such a financial model? Is there any league where you could actually live on your income and not get relegated? Town lost money in league 1 and in the Championship. Obviously it’s a year delayed from our perspective as fans, but this is worth a read. www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/uk/Documents/sports-business-group/deloitte-uk-annual-review-of-football-finance-2019.pdfIt’s certainly possible, although average Championship club wage increases of around £10m in the season before last (but no similar increase in revenue) means clubs are seemingly prepared to gamble more in the short term than ever before to get to the Premier League. There’s a high chance of a few more clubs going through pain and having to collapse in on theirselves whilst the clubs trying to balance the books have to work hard to keep their head above water whilst waiting to take the opportunity of success as and when it arrives (like we did)...!in the meantime of course the danger is without spending beyond means, there’s seemingly a real risk of losing relevance and dropping down the pyramid. We’re in the best and worst of positions as a club. |
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Post by jonny5 on Sept 3, 2019 14:27:52 GMT 1
Been to see York City match recently who currently sit top of the Conference North and still get 2500 crowds. Having done a bit of research about them and found even they are losing 1/2 million quid a season ! Being bank rolled by a local buisness man to the tune of millions !! (sound familiar) Its certainly an expensive hobby this football lark. P.S the quality of football at this level was not poor as expected and was far more entertaining than a TOWN match at the moment .... and I saw a WIN ! you see a win at Town matches, it's just that it's generally the opposing team who wins. |
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Post by blanquiazules on Sept 3, 2019 15:04:27 GMT 1
I think fan ownership is a great theory if it’s sustainable to run your club based on your income matching the expenditure needed to compete. So effectively everyone in the league needs to be fan owned, or expenditure capped before an owner can invest any funds, for it to work.
Ironically, I would have thought it appeals most at a time when a club has a distant owner or one with no links to the club who seems to be in it for selfish reasons (Glazers, Ken Davy, Barry Rubery etc). You could say we have a fan as an owner right now.
The risk is you end up with decisions being made based on emotional attachment and the ownership not having sufficient funds to compete. You could say we have that now too.
If we’re happy to be competitive and sustainable in League 1 or 2 with a fan in charge I reckon Phil can do this just as well as 5,000 other fans could tbh.
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