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Post by jabbatheutt on Sept 4, 2019 19:53:42 GMT 1
Trying to put my finger on what happened and how to avoid this slide again.
When we got promoted, we largely kept the core of the promotion squad bar Mounie, Depoitre and Lossl (replacing Wells and Ward).
The Terrier spirit and momentum was carried by the majority of players. However, second season we then signed what can only be described as gutless mercenaries, with a couple of exceptions.
As we see now, Sheff Utd and Norwich have kept the core of their squad and are holding their own, albeit early doors.
Transitioning players, we have to make sure we have good men, not cowards who will walk at the first sign of adversity.
Let's start with a few good local lads who are passionate about the team and get the terrier spirit back.
Look at Hefele, not the best technically but he runs through doors and typifies that underdog spirit we had nurtured so well.
Keep the faith,
UTT
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Post by keithAM11532 on Sept 4, 2019 19:55:44 GMT 1
FFS. did we need this
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Post by Yorkie on Sept 4, 2019 20:16:02 GMT 1
Expected an Ashes thread...
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 4, 2019 20:42:54 GMT 1
Root canal Filling ?
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Post by est1908 on Sept 4, 2019 20:48:10 GMT 1
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 4, 2019 20:49:32 GMT 1
Eh? Hef was very comfortable on the ball. Probably more so than Schindler and certainly more so than Zanka.
Injury’s stopped him but regardless he just didn’t have the mobility/turn of pace over 5 to 10 yards to be a premier league defender nor did he counter that by being aerially dominant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 20:55:16 GMT 1
Eh? Hef was very comfortable on the ball. Probably more so than Schindler and certainly more so than Zanka. Injury’s stopped him but regardless he just didn’t have the mobility/turn of pace over 5 to 10 yards to be a premier league defender nor did he counter that by being aerially dominant. I Seem to remember he could head a ball with his arse quite well.  |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 4, 2019 21:25:28 GMT 1
Root canal Filling ? Painful. You want to go to a dentist that uses anaesthesia Nick mate. When I had one done, it didn't hurt to be fair |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 21:40:11 GMT 1
Trying to put my finger on what happened and how to avoid this slide again. When we got promoted, we largely kept the core of the promotion squad bar Mounie, Depoitre and Lossl (replacing Wells and Ward). The Terrier spirit and momentum was carried by the majority of players. However, second season we then signed what can only be described as gutless mercenaries, with a couple of exceptions. As we see now, Sheff Utd and Norwich have kept the core of their squad and are holding their own, albeit early doors. Transitioning players, we have to make sure we have good men, not cowards who will walk at the first sign of adversity. Let's start with a few good local lads who are passionate about the team and get the terrier spirit back. Look at Hefele, not the best technically but he runs through doors and typifies that underdog spirit we had nurtured so well. Keep the faith, UTT Did you forget Zanka who was virtually ever present? |
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Post by zoso on Sept 4, 2019 21:46:58 GMT 1
Root canal Filling ? Painful. You want to go to a dentist that uses anaesthesia Nick mate. When I had one done, it didn't hurt to be fair Mine hurt like a bastard! |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 4, 2019 22:02:26 GMT 1
Trying to put my finger on what happened and how to avoid this slide again. When we got promoted, we largely kept the core of the promotion squad bar Mounie, Depoitre and Lossl (replacing Wells and Ward). The Terrier spirit and momentum was carried by the majority of players. However, second season we then signed what can only be described as gutless mercenaries, with a couple of exceptions. As we see now, Sheff Utd and Norwich have kept the core of their squad and are holding their own, albeit early doors. Transitioning players, we have to make sure we have good men, not cowards who will walk at the first sign of adversity. Let's start with a few good local lads who are passionate about the team and get the terrier spirit back. Look at Hefele, not the best technically but he runs through doors and typifies that underdog spirit we had nurtured so well. Keep the faith, UTT You can keep and it is easier to keep the majority of players the first season because you feel more affinity to them and they got you there so deserve more of a chance. Yes Sheff Utd and Norwich have done the same and made decent starts (as we did) but the second half of the first season we really struggled as the momentum disappeared as I'd imagine it will with them and it was obvious we needed signings in the second summer. I wouldn't say the signings we made were gutless mercenaries, I'd hardly describe Diakhaby and Mbenza as mercenaries considering they are at the beginning of their careers but considering their age and experience they should have been bonus signings. They should have been coming in to the side to add on to improvements and experience for players such as Hogg, Kachunga, VLP, Depoitre not being the improvements. Instead the spirit had inevitably dropped due to an already bad run and those players were coming to a side which was already struggling with the same faces and no more experience or quality added to it. The problem wasn't that we didn't sign enough players. Despite you pointing Norwich out they are already second bottom when this is the best time for the them to be picking up points and they'll be in big trouble when the run continues and the momentum they had drops off. Same with Sheff Utd and if they do manage to survive they'll both need to improve next summer so don't think they will be sticking with the players that got them there because they won't. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 4, 2019 22:07:48 GMT 1
You want to go to a dentist that uses anaesthesia Nick mate. When I had one done, it didn't hurt to be fair Mine hurt like a bastard! Soft bastard. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 4, 2019 22:11:20 GMT 1
Another pointless thread.
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Post by terrier10 on Sept 5, 2019 6:13:59 GMT 1
Signing the likes of Ince, Malone and Pritchard who had been consistent performers in the Championship adding to the mix of Lossl, Depoitre, Mounie and Zanka to me looked a clear way of a bit of forward planning to be a very good Championship team if we had come down in year 1.
In hindsight, if we had fallen at the first hurdle and come down as “plucky Huddersfield” I think we would have been better equipped to have been a stronger Championship Team.
Instead we went backwards with the strength of squad and came down as a perceived joke club with all momentum lost of the previous couple of years.
All hindsight though and who’s to say anything would have been any different - we’ll never know. It is what it is and we now need to address the slide, get back to winning some games and rebuilding a feel good factor over watching Town again as its all a bit “meh” at the moment.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 5, 2019 9:48:16 GMT 1
Trying to put my finger on what happened and how to avoid this slide again. When we got promoted, we largely kept the core of the promotion squad bar Mounie, Depoitre and Lossl (replacing Wells and Ward). The Terrier spirit and momentum was carried by the majority of players. However, second season we then signed what can only be described as gutless mercenaries, with a couple of exceptions. As we see now, Sheff Utd and Norwich have kept the core of their squad and are holding their own, albeit early doors. Transitioning players, we have to make sure we have good men, not cowards who will walk at the first sign of adversity. Let's start with a few good local lads who are passionate about the team and get the terrier spirit back. Look at Hefele, not the best technically but he runs through doors and typifies that underdog spirit we had nurtured so well. Keep the faith, UTT To be fair if we had a team made up of just local lads who wanted to play for the club we would be non league in 3 years. Hefele was hardly local either. |
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Post by terrierpark on Sept 5, 2019 16:20:01 GMT 1
The Root cause
Some could point at the fact that we had achieved promotion to the PL UNEXPECTEDLY. i.e. We had not built over several years a full squad of capable players. We even managed it with a negative goal difference !
The attempt to address that SM and LDP did not work and then no further attempt was made.
You could point at Wagner for single handedly dismantling the Terrier spirit putting out an 11 with only 2 attackers in it. You might even blame the board for not intervening at this stage to ask why the we fear no foe attitude was dropped after all it wasn't getting results.
You could say that whilst DH was in hospital with a focus on selling the club, those left in charge made a right pigs ear of it and proved unfit for purpose. Indeed you could say that everyone in charge at Town had no idea at all how to cope in the PL and when that is coupled with the small minded attitude of just being little old Huddersfield we were already destined to fail.
You could blame the diahkby and mnbenza fiasco and equally the person responsible for bringing the here. We could have had a class striker with money these two cost !!
You could say making no attempt to sign players in the Jan window signalled to those players trying their best to keep us up the club don't care why should we? After all we have seen that before when Marcus stewart was sold.
Or you could take the overall view that actually we are just TINPOT the club have proved it in some style and really do belong in L1.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 5, 2019 19:46:01 GMT 1
Somebody’s not getting any.
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Post by York Terrier on Sept 5, 2019 22:29:36 GMT 1
Root canal Filling ? Painful. You want to go to a dentist that uses anaesthesia Nick mate. When I had one done, it didn't hurt to be fair I used to go out with a dentist and she had the best set of teeth I have ever come across |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 12:36:30 GMT 1
You want to go to a dentist that uses anaesthesia Nick mate. When I had one done, it didn't hurt to be fair I used to go out with a dentist and she had the best set of teeth I have ever come across
......which she kept in a glass by the bed.....:-)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 12:37:23 GMT 1
The Root Cause......trying to stop Steve Smith scoring runs. And failing miserably........
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 6, 2019 18:17:06 GMT 1
Root Plum lbw Out.
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Post by buckers on Sept 6, 2019 18:19:51 GMT 1
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Post by Town Duppy on Sept 6, 2019 18:30:11 GMT 1
Root canal Filling ? Painful. You don't feel a thing Nick, you're numb.  |
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