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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2019 20:44:32 GMT 1
Fucking hell, the Examiner FB page for fans to give their Mark's has 8(EIGHT!) players worse than Grant, I can't think of one
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Post by BoltonTerrier on Sept 15, 2019 20:56:22 GMT 1
Fucking hell, the Examiner FB page for fans to give their Mark's has 8(EIGHT!) players worse than Grant, I can't think of one Flo, diakhaby, Elphick possibly o'brien
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Post by E4b on Sept 15, 2019 21:11:10 GMT 1
Thought our English players were the only decent ones today bar Hogg and Elphick. Disappointed with the foreign element, week after week it appears they’re only here for the dosh. The first goal sums that up to a tee, old man Fletcher too strong and brave for the best centre half in the world and a keeper who should have been flying out like a twat to punch the ball off his head.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 15, 2019 21:11:24 GMT 1
And the Worst thing is we still owe 40 million on all the shit we bought !
# mindfuck
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 15, 2019 21:18:55 GMT 1
Serious question for all you stat fans.. Has flo ever achieved an assist at town??
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Post by loumacari on Sept 15, 2019 21:20:17 GMT 1
Serious question for all you stat fans.. Has flo ever achieved an assist at town?? Yes, versus Chelsea at home in the first season. Cross straight into Depoitre’s head. Perhaps the last time one of our forwards moved in the box when a cross was played in.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 15, 2019 21:21:46 GMT 1
Serious question for all you stat fans.. Has flo ever achieved an assist at town?? Grant header versus Fulham
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 15, 2019 21:23:34 GMT 1
Serious question for all you stat fans.. Has flo ever achieved an assist at town?? He has one this season against Fulham
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 15, 2019 21:23:51 GMT 1
Ok so apart from those 2.. What has flo ever done for us.. (Life of brian anyone??)
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 15, 2019 21:51:45 GMT 1
Watched Town since 1965, seen 510 players play for Town, from the greats like Nicholson, Worthington, Stewart and Mooy to the garbage like Archer, Tucker, Hodouto and Davidson, but I don’t think I’ve disliked anyone more than I dislike Hadergjonaj, Diakhaby and Mbenza. I just want them gone from the club ASAP. Spot on, all dogshit Agreed, but I’d put someone else top of my ‘never want too see them wear the shirt again’ list....,,,Mounie!!!
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 15, 2019 21:59:01 GMT 1
Thought our English players were the only decent ones today bar Hogg and Elphick. Disappointed with the foreign element, week after week it appears they’re only here for the dosh. The first goal sums that up to a tee, old man Fletcher too strong and brave for the best centre half in the world and a keeper who should have been flying out like a twat to punch the ball off his head. Grant was shite so that leaves Chalobah, Campbell and O'Brien and 2 of those got subbed just not the one that should have been
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 15, 2019 22:03:40 GMT 1
Flo has got to go at fault for both goals missed best chance in the game can’t defend can’t cross put anyone from the squad at right back anyone and we are a stronger team Pay him off just get rid UTT So why do Town play him right back, wing half, right wing and centre forward with missing that chance. Fucking mental tactics if you ask me but at least you see him on the pitch for you boo boys to get stuck in
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Sept 15, 2019 22:07:25 GMT 1
In pubs after game, not h just Nickhudd but many are saying the following are crap and cant be in team Hogg Diakhaby Mbenza Flo shiterhoy Elphick Also very hard to say why Bacuna should play Why stoo there, cant you slag the other pile of shit off too
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Post by 28901 on Sept 15, 2019 22:43:25 GMT 1
Thought our English players were the only decent ones today bar Hogg and Elphick. Disappointed with the foreign element, week after week it appears they’re only here for the dosh. The first goal sums that up to a tee, old man Fletcher too strong and brave for the best centre half in the world and a keeper who should have been flying out like a twat to punch the ball off his head. Grant was shite so that leaves Chalobah, Campbell and O'Brien and 2 of those got subbed just not the one that should have been Said it for me Why the fuck would anyone divide it up into foreign and English without some other motive? It was jonny foreigner that got us into the premier league. Might as well say all our Kosovans are shit hot apart from Flo.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 15, 2019 22:44:50 GMT 1
Thought our English players were the only decent ones today bar Hogg and Elphick. Disappointed with the foreign element, week after week it appears they’re only here for the dosh. The first goal sums that up to a tee, old man Fletcher too strong and brave for the best centre half in the world and a keeper who should have been flying out like a twat to punch the ball off his head. bloody foreigners eh? wankers the lot of em
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Sept 15, 2019 23:23:39 GMT 1
The people that hate Flo are the people that have never kicked a ball in their life and take a seat-pillow to every game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 23:35:34 GMT 1
I've played over 500 games of football, Flo is shite.
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Post by ambryboy on Sept 15, 2019 23:43:50 GMT 1
I've played over 500 games of football, Flo is shite. I've never played a competitive game of football, Flo is shite. On the other hand I've watched Town since the early 70s and you know what? Flo is shite.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 16, 2019 7:52:40 GMT 1
The people that hate Flo are the people that have never kicked a ball in their life and take a seat-pillow to every game. Do you rate him ?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 16, 2019 8:07:48 GMT 1
Big centre forward, let's drop in and stay in and allow a few crosses?
Opponent enters our half running with the ball, let's drop at speed to our 18 yard line then stand about in lumps whilst they cross it?
Town have to start playing where the fucking ball is in both halves.
Blame anyone you like but the De ja vu as the ball hits the net with Town is very strong.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 16, 2019 8:19:50 GMT 1
Never seen a player so shit scared to put his head on the ball 6 yards out under no challenge, if that went in it's 1-1 and game on.
The game is of fine margins and when we struggle to score as it is, if someone puts it on a 6 pence for you you've got to put it away.
It's almost like he closed his eyes and waited for it to hit his head.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 9:50:12 GMT 1
Never seen a player so shit scared to put his head on the ball 6 yards out under no challenge, if that went in it's 1-1 and game on. The game is of fine margins and when we struggle to score as it is, if someone puts it on a 6 pence for you you've got to put it away. It's almost like he closed his eyes and waited for it to hit his head. Looked to me like he was simply caught off balance and opted to try and head it across the box to where we had someone (can’t remember who) ready to tap in. Reasonable idea just poor execution. Shame but these things happen.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 16, 2019 10:00:05 GMT 1
Never seen a player so shit scared to put his head on the ball 6 yards out under no challenge, if that went in it's 1-1 and game on. The game is of fine margins and when we struggle to score as it is, if someone puts it on a 6 pence for you you've got to put it away. It's almost like he closed his eyes and waited for it to hit his head. Looked to me like he was simply caught off balance and opted to try and head it across the box to where we had someone (can’t remember who) ready to tap in. Reasonable idea just poor execution. Shame but these things happen. Yeah i think he was trying to nod it across too. Just made a hash of it.
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Post by Rambo on Sept 16, 2019 11:07:06 GMT 1
I've never been a Flo supporter - his diving, feigning injury and total lack of fight are, I think, accepted - but the main thing is that he is a full back who just CANNOT defend. He hates physical contact and, genuinely, avoids tackling somebody if he possibly can. Danny Cowley mentions that, when times get rough, you're either a victim or a fighter. Flo unfortunately doesn't seem to have an ounce of fight in him. I hesitate to add this, as I revere the man, but isn't Chris Schindler looking increasing like a despondent victim than a fighter ? Maybe he just needs a rest. Thats pretty much it. A full back who cannot defend. Hes got the physical strength of a 10 year old girl and probably less fight. Hes been like that since we signed him yet hes still starting as a full back! There won;t be a manager in this division that hasn;t marked him down as an obvious weak link to attack. Going forward he gets in good positions. But his crossing is generally lousy, rarely beating the first defender. And usually when faced with a full back he immediately goes backwards because he hasn;t a trick or the pace to get past him. Diakhaby's problem is that whilst hes game and has lots of pace, he hasn;t got a brain.. at least not a footballing brain. Just wrong decision after wrong decision time and time again. Like someone who's new to playing football. When to run, when to pass, when to hold on to it, how the ball moves, how hard to kick it, where the edge of the pitch will be, how offside works.... its like hes finding out about these things as he goes along! Same with Mbenza, we're stuck with them because absolutely no one is going to come in for them and offer them anywhere near what they must be earning here. I'm baffled as to why we offered Mbenza a permanent deal. Should have sent him back to Montpelier after his loan expired as he showed nothing during that spell to warrant us invoking that clause of a permanent deal. My how they must be laughing at us taking Mounie and Mbenza off their hands and getting £20m+ for the privilege. Danny has learned a lot from that game. Hopefully this will include playing these jokers. I suspect there will be changes for West Brom on Sunday.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 16, 2019 11:24:01 GMT 1
Thats pretty much it. A full back who cannot defend. Hes got the physical strength of a 10 year old girl and probably less fight. Hes been like that since we signed him yet hes still starting as a full back! There won;t be a manager in this division that hasn;t marked him down as an obvious weak link to attack. Going forward he gets in good positions. But his crossing is generally lousy, rarely beating the first defender. And usually when faced with a full back he immediately goes backwards because he hasn;t a trick or the pace to get past him. Diakhaby's problem is that whilst hes game and has lots of pace, he hasn;t got a brain.. at least not a footballing brain. Just wrong decision after wrong decision time and time again. Like someone who's new to playing football. When to run, when to pass, when to hold on to it, how the ball moves, how hard to kick it, where the edge of the pitch will be, how offside works.... its like hes finding out about these things as he goes along! Same with Mbenza, we're stuck with them because absolutely no one is going to come in for them and offer them anywhere near what they must be earning here. I'm baffled as to why we offered Mbenza a permanent deal. Should have sent him back to Montpelier after his loan expired as he showed nothing during that spell to warrant us invoking that clause of a permanent deal. My how they must be laughing at us taking Mounie and Mbenza off their hands and getting £20m+ for the privilege. Danny has learned a lot from that game. Hopefully this will include playing these jokers. I suspect there will be changes for West Brom on Sunday. Christ, how many times does it need explaining. Mbenza had a clause in the loan contract to be permanent at the end of it. There wasn't an option to pull out of the deal - otherwise, let's face it, we wouldn't have been stumping up his fee, especially in the Championship.
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Post by calken on Sept 16, 2019 14:07:50 GMT 1
I'm going to compare Grant to their No. 7.
For the first goal, Flo was in a good position, 7 played a perfectly waited ball to the line and then put in an equally impressive cross. Grabara, Elphick and Schindler are all stood within 3 yards of each other - none of them attacked the ball. Grant had over five attempts in the same relative position but provided lame balls each time that the defender found easy to block. Flo could have defended those as well.
Second goal. Flo was in a good position again, gave himself an extra half a yard to the line to stop the cross and sprint to the line. Mbenza came along side to double up to stop no. 7 coming inside. He then plays a ball into 10 yards of open space for an easy cross. Hogg, where has he? Marking space on the penalty spot, Chalobah? level with MBenza in empty space. Great cross comes in, Schindler doesn't track the man, Elphick stood like a statue.
Why does Hogg always pass to Flo? He's the only one that always moves into space and opens up for the ball, the crowd got on Flos back after about 70 minutes and he stopped, all of sudden, we could barely get the ball out of out half.
I don't know which game some of you were watching but I thought Kongolo, Schindler and Elphick were all worse than Flo yesterday - Schindler was probably worst given Kongolo had a few attempts on goal to balance his diabolical ball control (catching a ball that bounced over his head that hadn't gone out of play? come on!). To imply that both goals were all Flo's fault is just pure fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 14:10:47 GMT 1
I'm going to compare Grant to their No. 7. For the first goal, Flo was in a good position, 7 played a perfectly waited ball to the line and then put in an equally impressive cross. Grabara, Elphick and Schindler are all stood within 3 yards of each other - none of them attacked the ball. Grant had over five attempts in the same relative position but provided lame balls each time that the defender found easy to block. Flo could have defended those as well. Second goal. Flo was in a good position again, gave himself an extra half a yard to the line to stop the cross and sprint to the line. Mbenza came along side to double up to stop no. 7 coming inside. He then plays a ball into 10 yards of open space for an easy cross. Hogg, where has he? Marking space on the penalty spot, Chalobah? level with MBenza in empty space. Great cross comes in, Schindler doesn't track the man, Elphick stood like a statue. Why does Hogg always pass to Flo? He's the only one that always moves into space and opens up for the ball, the crowd got on Flos back after about 70 minutes and he stopped, all of sudden, we could barely get the ball out of out half. I don't know which game some of you were watching but I thought Kongolo, Schindler and Elphick were all worse than Flo yesterday - Schindler was probably worst given Kongolo had a few attempts on goal to balance his diabolical ball control (catching a ball that bounced over his head that hadn't gone out of play? come on!). To imply that both goals were all Flo's fault is just pure fantasy. Hadergjonaj and Elphick were to blame for both of the goals. Hadergjonaj let both crosses come in and Elphick wasn't marking his man on each occasion.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Sept 16, 2019 14:12:29 GMT 1
I'm going to compare Grant to their No. 7. For the first goal, Flo was in a good position, 7 played a perfectly waited ball to the line and then put in an equally impressive cross. Grabara, Elphick and Schindler are all stood within 3 yards of each other - none of them attacked the ball. Grant had over five attempts in the same relative position but provided lame balls each time that the defender found easy to block. Flo could have defended those as well. Second goal. Flo was in a good position again, gave himself an extra half a yard to the line to stop the cross and sprint to the line. Mbenza came along side to double up to stop no. 7 coming inside. He then plays a ball into 10 yards of open space for an easy cross. Hogg, where has he? Marking space on the penalty spot, Chalobah? level with MBenza in empty space. Great cross comes in, Schindler doesn't track the man, Elphick stood like a statue. Why does Hogg always pass to Flo? He's the only one that always moves into space and opens up for the ball, the crowd got on Flos back after about 70 minutes and he stopped, all of sudden, we could barely get the ball out of out half. I don't know which game some of you were watching but I thought Kongolo, Schindler and Elphick were all worse than Flo yesterday - Schindler was probably worst given Kongolo had a few attempts on goal to balance his diabolical ball control (catching a ball that bounced over his head that hadn't gone out of play? come on!). To imply that both goals were all Flo's fault is just pure fantasy. Hi Flo
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Post by calken on Sept 16, 2019 14:20:45 GMT 1
I'm going to compare Grant to their No. 7. For the first goal, Flo was in a good position, 7 played a perfectly waited ball to the line and then put in an equally impressive cross. Grabara, Elphick and Schindler are all stood within 3 yards of each other - none of them attacked the ball. Grant had over five attempts in the same relative position but provided lame balls each time that the defender found easy to block. Flo could have defended those as well. Second goal. Flo was in a good position again, gave himself an extra half a yard to the line to stop the cross and sprint to the line. Mbenza came along side to double up to stop no. 7 coming inside. He then plays a ball into 10 yards of open space for an easy cross. Hogg, where has he? Marking space on the penalty spot, Chalobah? level with MBenza in empty space. Great cross comes in, Schindler doesn't track the man, Elphick stood like a statue. Why does Hogg always pass to Flo? He's the only one that always moves into space and opens up for the ball, the crowd got on Flos back after about 70 minutes and he stopped, all of sudden, we could barely get the ball out of out half. I don't know which game some of you were watching but I thought Kongolo, Schindler and Elphick were all worse than Flo yesterday - Schindler was probably worst given Kongolo had a few attempts on goal to balance his diabolical ball control (catching a ball that bounced over his head that hadn't gone out of play? come on!). To imply that both goals were all Flo's fault is just pure fantasy. Hadergjonaj and Elphick were to blame for both of the goals. Hadergjonaj let both crosses come in and Elphick wasn't marking his man on each occasion. I can't see what Flo could have done for the cross for the second goal other than just fly into no. 7 and hope to win the ball. Must say, Flo was in no man's land for what should have Wednesday's third goal where a simple ball was played inside him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 14:29:26 GMT 1
Hadergjonaj and Elphick were to blame for both of the goals. Hadergjonaj let both crosses come in and Elphick wasn't marking his man on each occasion. I can't see what Flo could have done for the cross for the second goal other than just fly into no. 7 and hope to win the ball. Must say, Flo was in no man's land for what should have Wednesday's third goal where a simple ball was played inside him. He should have at least closed their player down. I don't understand the fascination of backing off and backing off until the player is in the position to cross.
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