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Post by Kenny irons on Dec 24, 2019 2:27:00 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January.
Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 24, 2019 8:03:10 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January. Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway Utt I really hope this is true. If we can keep hold of the players we have (obviously not the banished ones) and add a couple of decent premier League youngsters and 2 or 3 solid hardworking players from league 1 then I would back the Cowleys 100% to make us a real force. If you take Leeds as an example, Bielsa doesn't want to chuck money at it, hes made average players good through coaching and supplemented it with talented players such as Ben White and Jack Harrison. Danny Cowley is totally capable of doing the same. Preston and Brentford are other examples of this approach. Difference is, we have a better manager. |
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Post by 65terrier on Dec 24, 2019 8:17:16 GMT 1
Cedric Kipre should be top of our list if we're looking to sign a centre half Best player on the pitch last week and has looked good again tonight Agree, plus weakening a team close to us in League. this, however, means a deal would be unlikely |
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Post by terriers2000 on Dec 24, 2019 8:30:27 GMT 1
Heard over the weekend that sammie szmodics is joining us from bristol city on loan then permanent in the summer
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 24, 2019 9:40:45 GMT 1
Heard over the weekend that sammie szmodics is joining us from bristol city on loan then permanent in the summer I was told, second hand, that Szmodics ISN’T a target. Based on what he did at Colchester I’d have thought he might be of interest. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Dec 24, 2019 10:10:09 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January. Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway Utt Not saying there is no truth in this, but it could have been me that had a hand in starting a whisper. A fortnight or so ago, knowing I was going to have dealings with a mad keen Donny fan, I found out which player was his favourite and wound him up, big style. Even down to name dropping Donny office staff names into the fiction. After half an hour he was 100% convinced, and had "seen the signs in the lad recently". |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 24, 2019 10:16:02 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January. Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway Utt Doubt this one. Club captain and signed a new contract 4 weeks ago. In terms of central midfielders we are doing OK I think. Hogg, Chalobah, O'Brien and Bacuna. With a talented youth pool to dip into it when required I.e Daly. |
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Post by ldotm on Dec 24, 2019 10:23:28 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January. Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway Utt Not saying there is no truth in this, but it could have been me that had a hand in starting a whisper. A fortnight or so ago, knowing I was going to have dealings with a mad keen Donny fan, I found out which player was his favourite and wound him up, big style. Even down to name dropping Donny office staff names into the fiction. After half an hour he was 100% convinced, and had "seen the signs in the lad recently". I think Donny fans are starting to panic though, he’s rumoured to have a lot of interest from the Championship and he was out of the team due to an unexpected injury at the weekend. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 24, 2019 10:57:35 GMT 1
Heard over the weekend that sammie szmodics is joining us from bristol city on loan then permanent in the summer I was told, second hand, that Szmodics ISN’T a target. Based on what he did at Colchester I’d have thought he might be of interest. Well, Maynard said he wasn't a target when he was first mentioned. I'd rather have taken Patto back from them but seemingly he's on loan at Derby now |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Dec 24, 2019 11:41:27 GMT 1
Quite a few rumours from the home fans flying about Doncasters keep moat stadium at the weekend that Ben Whiteman is set to join us this January. Don't have a clue if there is anything in it but thought I'd share it anyway Utt Not saying there is no truth in this, but it could have been me that had a hand in starting a whisper. A fortnight or so ago, knowing I was going to have dealings with a mad keen Donny fan, I found out which player was his favourite and wound him up, big style. Even down to name dropping Donny office staff names into the fiction. After half an hour he was 100% convinced, and had "seen the signs in the lad recently". Haha I love that sort of shit |
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Post by linson on Dec 24, 2019 13:49:03 GMT 1
It would be nice to offload Hamer this window as well
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 24, 2019 14:43:46 GMT 1
It would be nice to offload Hamer this window as well If Derby were doing well that might have been quite easy; however...  |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 24, 2019 21:46:17 GMT 1
With respect I’m not sure that’s right. DH did a truly wonderful job getting this club to the prem.............but he never in a million yrs expected his money back. I’m not denying his right to it, but the parachute period is short and perhaps a longer repayment term would have helped the club both manage its reduced cash flow, but also compete well for a quick return. As for failing to get players to stay the course......under his watch we brought in the bad eggs! We are where we are right now.....but let’s not accept our lot, let’s aspire to be the best we can be and fight like hell on and off the field to get back up. It won’t be easy, but if we don’t aspire then crowds will drift v quickly. C20k yesterday and we are bottom half - brilliant, but to keep them we have to really recruit well, price tickets well and keep the managers. Not as easy as it sounds. Dean had to get paid while the money was there. AND we need to dump EPL salaries as fast as possible. Whatever the transfer fee the club paid, the same amount is leaving the club in wages over the length of each contract. I know Big Phil said he won't have a closeout sale, but we need to shift those wages. If he didn't pay Dean, where is the incentive to get rid of EPL contracts? So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour? |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 24, 2019 22:06:05 GMT 1
Dean had to get paid while the money was there. AND we need to dump EPL salaries as fast as possible. Whatever the transfer fee the club paid, the same amount is leaving the club in wages over the length of each contract. I know Big Phil said he won't have a closeout sale, but we need to shift those wages. If he didn't pay Dean, where is the incentive to get rid of EPL contracts? So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour? I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 24, 2019 22:06:43 GMT 1
Dean had to get paid while the money was there. AND we need to dump EPL salaries as fast as possible. Whatever the transfer fee the club paid, the same amount is leaving the club in wages over the length of each contract. I know Big Phil said he won't have a closeout sale, but we need to shift those wages. If he didn't pay Dean, where is the incentive to get rid of EPL contracts? So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour? I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember |
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Post by Big Ern on Dec 25, 2019 0:16:59 GMT 1
So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour? I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 25, 2019 0:28:18 GMT 1
I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero So in 2008 if you'd been told. Ken Davy would sell the club to a guy who in the next ten years would have 1 taken us to three play off finals and two promotions 2 taken us to the Premier league and kept us there... 3 and in the process beaten man utd and drawn at Chelsea and man City 4 increased gates to 20000 plus 5 raised huge sums for the air ambulance and provided thousands of breakfasts for disadvantaged kids... You'd have said "no thanks"? |
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Post by zoso on Dec 25, 2019 1:25:36 GMT 1
We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero So in 2008 if you'd been told. Ken Davy would sell the club to a guy who in the next ten years would have 1 taken us to three play off finals and two promotions 2 taken us to the Premier league and kept us there... 3 and in the process beaten man utd and drawn at Chelsea and man City 4 increased gates to 20000 plus 5 raised huge sums for the air ambulance and provided thousands of breakfasts for disadvantaged kids... You'd have said "no thanks"? 6 reduced season ticket prices to a very affordable level. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 25, 2019 1:31:14 GMT 1
Yeah true.. All the above for an average of about a tenner a game
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Post by bluestripe on Dec 25, 2019 1:59:23 GMT 1
Yeah true.. All the above for an average of about a tenner a game And the old adage remains true; you still can't please all the people all of the time. |
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Post by htfctx on Dec 25, 2019 2:57:30 GMT 1
Dean had to get paid while the money was there. AND we need to dump EPL salaries as fast as possible. Whatever the transfer fee the club paid, the same amount is leaving the club in wages over the length of each contract. I know Big Phil said he won't have a closeout sale, but we need to shift those wages. If he didn't pay Dean, where is the incentive to get rid of EPL contracts? So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour? Everything with Dean's journey for this club was spot on, except player recruitment. Deans management team tried to find 25M players amongst 10M raw talent from abroad and it just didn't gel. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 25, 2019 8:37:10 GMT 1
I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero To be fair I don't think he started out with the intention of it being that way. You'd have to be a bit daft to think you can buy a league 1 football club and not lose money at it We just ended up being very lucky and he took the opportunity to reclaim his investment due to changing circumstances in his life. For taking the risk at the outset and throwing in 50 million that he would very likely not see again I'd say he's a hero. It's just a little bit disappointing that we're now in a tough situation due to some bad decisions that were made late in to his ownership and he isn't factoring that in to the money he wants back. Let's face it, the guy is absolutely minted and could easily have said I just want back 25 million and help give us a fighting chance at getting back up in the next couple of seasons. I'm still not convinced it is as straight forward as he's taking all his money back and that's it. I think there's a bigger plan between him and Phil behind the scenes that will become clear in time but it wouldn't be the first time I'm completely wrong |
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Post by Senator Clay Davis on Dec 25, 2019 10:00:11 GMT 1
We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero So in 2008 if you'd been told. Ken Davy would sell the club to a guy who in the next ten years would have 1 taken us to three play off finals and two promotions 2 taken us to the Premier league and kept us there... 3 and in the process beaten man utd and drawn at Chelsea and man City 4 increased gates to 20000 plus 5 raised huge sums for the air ambulance and provided thousands of breakfasts for disadvantaged kids... You'd have said "no thanks"? 90% of us at the time would have snapped your hand off to be Championship strugglers and if they say different they are rewriting history. The only place we were going without Dean is where Bradford are. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 10:10:09 GMT 1
We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero To be fair I don't think he started out with the intention of it being that way. You'd have to be a bit daft to think you can buy a league 1 football club and not lose money at it We just ended up being very lucky and he took the opportunity to reclaim his investment due to changing circumstances in his life. For taking the risk at the outset and throwing in 50 million that he would very likely not see again I'd say he's a hero. It's just a little bit disappointing that we're now in a tough situation due to some bad decisions that were made late in to his ownership and he isn't factoring that in to the money he wants back. Let's face it, the guy is absolutely minted and could easily have said I just want back 25 million and help give us a fighting chance at getting back up in the next couple of seasons. I'm still not convinced it is as straight forward as he's taking all his money back and that's it. I think there's a bigger plan between him and Phil behind the scenes that will become clear in time but it wouldn't be the first time I'm completely wrong A bigger plan between DH & PH, like passing the club on in a financially healthy state, but no one can prove it, so PH can say we are beyond budget, while agents think little old hudders can't afford any more £££, hush hush! |
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Post by detox on Dec 25, 2019 10:42:17 GMT 1
If DH had left us established in the PL, then sold up and took his cash back I don't think fans would be questioning him in this way. He'd be the legend he deserves to be. The fact he got ill, the club lost it's direction and spaffed the PL money away and got relegated is what's bugging people. You'll recall it took DH quite a while to find the 'right' manager for the club, and also to get rid of Clibbens, but sadly his better staff then left too..and recruitment then was delayed and then we appointed the wrong people again. His recruitment record is not good so yes he bears the responsibility utlimately for what happened to us. The fact he sold the club at no profit to himself, on delayed terms to PH is surely worth recording..he never drew a salary form the club as Chairman, so basically he put 10 years of his life in this project for zilch return...in fact he lost money as that £50m would likely have earned him at least another £20m had it remained invested in his portfolio over the years..
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Post by thongsbridge on Dec 25, 2019 10:43:25 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off..
Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 25, 2019 10:46:46 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. But we aren't just "no worse off". We are massively better off. |
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Post by E4b on Dec 25, 2019 10:50:01 GMT 1
Deano can always give me a shout if he falls into hard times. If he falls behind with his mortgage payments or gets his gas cut off I will chuck him a few bob.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 25, 2019 11:04:41 GMT 1
Deano can always give me a shout if he falls into hard times. If he falls behind with his mortgage payments or gets his gas cut off I will chuck him a few bob. I like safe bets too!  |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 25, 2019 11:09:30 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. But we aren't just "no worse off". We are massively better off. How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! |
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