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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 25, 2019 11:15:15 GMT 1
But we aren't just "no worse off". We are massively better off. How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! So we are worse off than when Ken Davy was in charge? Nick let this Xmas day be the day you stopped talking wank |
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Post by Senator Clay Davis on Dec 25, 2019 11:18:11 GMT 1
But we aren't just "no worse off". We are massively better off. How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! Division higher, stadium attendance closer to capacity, better players, better commercial setup, better training facilities, stadium shares.... |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 25, 2019 11:20:31 GMT 1
How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! So we are worse off than when Ken Davy was in charge? Nick let this Xmas day be the day you stopped talking wank Eh it’s just imo ! Suppose we are bit better. Enjoy Xmas day walk |
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Post by El Mel on Dec 25, 2019 11:41:15 GMT 1
This is why these elongated threads are a load of wank.
Clicked on the thread to see some relevant and exciting transfer news and instead find Nicky and Teddy throwing toys at each other.
Merry Christmas boys.
Mel's off to walk up to the pub - might even brave the swimming pool later.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 25, 2019 11:55:45 GMT 1
I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero Its christmas so i will be generous. i still believe we are innocent until proven guilty, there should be no room for ifs and maybes when criticising a man who has for fact - helped get us in the prem and stay there
- had a life threatening illness
- bought the club when it was on its knees
- gave us the best value season ticket in the land
- helped our communities breakfast club etc
- provided memories that can not be taken back
- If he has taken his money back so be it. I couldnt give a toss.
Have a merry Christmas
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 25, 2019 11:56:40 GMT 1
How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! So we are worse off than when Ken Davy was in charge? Nick let this Xmas day be the day you stopped talking wank Language Timothy. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 25, 2019 11:57:43 GMT 1
So basically dean sold the club, took the parachute payments and left the old chairman with a squad we cant budge for anywhere near what we paid and wages that are preventing us from strengthening a dire squad. Wasnt dean supposed to be a saviour?No he wasnt. He bought a busted football club |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 25, 2019 11:58:37 GMT 1
How though ! We have blown over 200 million in 2 years and still owe money on wasters like Kongolo ! So we are worse off than when Ken Davy was in charge? Nick let this Xmas day be the day you stopped talking wank that is one christmas present we would all love. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 12:07:11 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. Has there been any confirmation from the club, Dean or Phil that Dean has taken his money back? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 12:20:44 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. Has there been any confirmation from the club, Dean or Phil that Dean has taken his money back? Speculation is datm fact if it's bad news. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Dec 25, 2019 12:41:15 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. Has there been any confirmation from the club, Dean or Phil that Dean has taken his money back? iirc, Phil mentioned in the "takes that chance" podcast interview that Dean was being repaid his "loans" out of the three years parachute payments. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 25, 2019 14:33:54 GMT 1
Wasn't it filed with companies house back in July? I'm sure someone will find it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 14:36:02 GMT 1
Has there been any confirmation from the club, Dean or Phil that Dean has taken his money back? iirc, Phil mentioned in the "takes that chance" podcast interview that Dean was being repaid his "loans" out of the three years parachute payments. Not accurate, what he said was a significant chunk of his loans would be repaid over 2 to 3 years. A subtle but significant difference. No mention of parachute & no mention of how much! |
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Post by linson on Dec 25, 2019 15:22:36 GMT 1
I’m not sure if the guessing or supposition or made up shite has the greater presence in the DH saviour story He certainly has done more for the club than any owner I can remember We got to where we got to, then when we got there he took it all back. From what has been said he GAVE us nothing. Took us on as a project and took his money back without giving a shite where we ended up. I have no idea what the truth is BUT if that's the truth then he ain't a hero Sorry mate but this is absolute bull. You telling me you'd risk £50m of your own hard earnt money then not get your investment back if you had the opportunity? I once met a chap when working who had millions behind him, he donated £100,000 at a charity event then he overheard people talking about him being cheap as he was worth £3m. He refused to donate money ever again, after that, only time. People lose sight of what's realistic when massive sums are being thrown around. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Dec 25, 2019 16:42:17 GMT 1
iirc, Phil mentioned in the "takes that chance" podcast interview that Dean was being repaid his "loans" out of the three years parachute payments. Not accurate, what he said was a significant chunk of his loans would be repaid over 2 to 3 years. A subtle but significant difference. No mention of parachute & no mention of how much! I always assumed the first years parachutes was being used to buy the club whereas the second year would be used to steady the club longer term and bring in some players. nothing about dean wanting all his money back on an immediate basis. I'd be surprised if he did because I'm not sure dean ever said he would want all his money back. He would have known nothing was guaranteed. He'd also be the first chairman who ever had his investment returned. normally it's swallowed up by the great football financial black hole of 'throwing money at it'. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2019 17:56:48 GMT 1
Not accurate, what he said was a significant chunk of his loans would be repaid over 2 to 3 years. A subtle but significant difference. No mention of parachute & no mention of how much! I always assumed the first years parachutes was being used to buy the club whereas the second year would be used to steady the club longer term and bring in some players. nothing about dean wanting all his money back on an immediate basis. I'd be surprised if he did because I'm not sure dean ever said he would want all his money back. He would have known nothing was guaranteed. He'd also be the first chairman who ever had his investment returned. normally it's swallowed up by the great football financial black hole of 'throwing money at it'. PH also said he was implementing exactly the same financial plan (3 year if I remember correctly) that DH had prepared, so no changes in PH taking over. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 25, 2019 23:20:10 GMT 1
Hope we get a striker and the new keeper
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Post by willo on Dec 26, 2019 2:00:09 GMT 1
Hope we get a striker and the new keeper What’s up with our present keeper? He was very steady against Forest. Seems one position we don’t have to worry about as it stands imo. |
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Post by drbaldric on Dec 26, 2019 3:36:56 GMT 1
Hope we get a striker and the new keeper We need two wingers and a left back. Nowt more. No point in spunking unnecessary money in January Grabara is ok. I'd rather we played Coleman or Schofield and saved the cash, but we're contracted Grant/Campbell/Mounie is as good as it gets. Three entirely different strikers. As I hear Harratt isn't bad as back up. Punt on the mercenaries. Save the dough for summer. We're staying up. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 26, 2019 7:55:25 GMT 1
We next a left back, a winger, a second striker and a central, attacking midfielder because we have 4 defensive central midfielders.
Oh, for a Lillis.
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Post by linson on Dec 26, 2019 10:22:51 GMT 1
Agree with Baldric...
Two effective wingers could see our strikers explode.
Flo is doing a good job at left back though have to say.
If Pritchard can't get some form then another CAM would be nice as well
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 26, 2019 10:28:41 GMT 1
Agree with Baldric... Two effective wingers could see our strikers explode. Flo is doing a good job at left back though have to say. If Pritchard can't get some form then another CAM would be nice as well You want two effective wingers to see our strikers to explode. But our 20m striker plays on the left? So not sure how that works |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 26, 2019 10:29:21 GMT 1
The squad is absolutely threadbare with about 15 pros who are ready and prepared to play at this level
We let 15 leave and signed two players in the summer not good enough in brown and bockhorn (laughably signed to replace smith!)
Elphick is done for the season and the 3 prima donnas won’t play again even if they don’t leave
Need a left back, centre back, left winger, creative midfielder as a bare minimum - if players like mounie leave we then also need to replace them
A lot to be fixed and relegation a real threat still so can’t be complacent
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 26, 2019 11:03:10 GMT 1
Ian Carlo Poveda, Man City loan? Striker or perhaps a no. 10?
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Post by ram on Dec 26, 2019 11:11:59 GMT 1
Grabara the goalkeeper is on loan,so unless we buy him at the end of the term,he is not ours.Therefore we could do with a permanent keeper,Grabara or otherwise.
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Post by yellowbelly on Dec 26, 2019 11:36:32 GMT 1
Grabara the goalkeeper is on loan,so unless we buy him at the end of the term,he is not ours.Therefore we could do with a permanent keeper,Grabara or otherwise. Waiting for Schofield to come through, loans until then |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 26, 2019 11:42:58 GMT 1
Agree with Baldric... Two effective wingers could see our strikers explode. Flo is doing a good job at left back though have to say. If Pritchard can't get some form then another CAM would be nice as well You want two effective wingers to see our strikers to explode. But our 20m striker plays on the left? So not sure how that works Yep, whilst if the suggestion is we go 4:4:2 that realistically puts Pritchard out to pasteur, as he'd generally be useless in that formation and ain't displacing O'Brien, Hogg or Bacuna. It's far from straightforward 😄 |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Dec 26, 2019 14:02:30 GMT 1
Great ride over the last few years but now back to reality and mid table Championship (or as was in the old days '2nd Division').. it's probably our natural position. If Dean wants his cash back then it's been worth it as long as we're no worse off.. Biggest bonus now is that at the moment we have the Cowleys who have the amazing ability to make silk purses out of pigs bottoms wherever they go. Has there been any confirmation from the club, Dean or Phil that Dean has taken his money back? Why would there be. It does not effect the clubs budget, it would be purely cash flow within the balance sheet. |
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Post by thomo on Dec 26, 2019 14:47:31 GMT 1
I’m still a little surprised if we are repaying Dean all his money back. If I were in his shoes I want to leave Town in a position to be able to compete well in this division. With a lack of funding we risk becoming a poor championship/top end league one team, which is what we were before he came in.
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Post by linson on Dec 26, 2019 14:56:23 GMT 1
Agree with Baldric... Two effective wingers could see our strikers explode. Flo is doing a good job at left back though have to say. If Pritchard can't get some form then another CAM would be nice as well You want two effective wingers to see our strikers to explode. But our 20m striker plays on the left? So not sure how that works Based on a 433, with Grant up front is what I was envisaging as I believe that's how the Cowleys like to play... Kachunga and Grant on the wings is good but I'd prefer Grant as striker with effective wingers. I don't really rate Kachunga as an attacking threat tbh. There's no doubt he stabilises the wing he's on defensively but he just doesn't offer enough going forward for me. |
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