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Post by Porrohman on Jan 1, 2020 23:47:55 GMT 1
So that's one in the last 15 years Mooy Palmer Brown Chilwell I'll go for them, I was going from the previous list given |
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Post by drfootball on Jan 1, 2020 23:48:15 GMT 1
Zero income from that then , that’s a good start |
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Post by willo on Jan 1, 2020 23:52:51 GMT 1
Just who are these wingers? Neither Mbenza nor Diakhaby want to be here (or are good enough) and we have no others. The 13/14 players he refers to are all the recognised pros left who are either uninjured and are “available” to play. I agree that Diabenza is rubbish and wants to leave but they are a better option that what we’ve had on the bench. They are not the only players who want to leave. We going to stop playing Grant cause he has his eye on the Premier League next season? The manager has publicly stated that several members of our squad are currently “unavailable” for selection. I took this as being that (amongst others) Mbenza & Diakhaby have made it clear they no longer want to play for Town, injured or otherwise, and consequently are not being considered for selection. What a shitty state of affairs if actually true. |
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Post by Moooooy on Jan 2, 2020 0:03:28 GMT 1
So that's one in the last 15 years Mooy Palmer Brown Chilwell We could make a decent team out of the last 10 years worth of loanees we’ve had. Ward Chilwell Kongolo Morrison Kelly Mooy Drinkwater Brown Palmer Ward Vaughan |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2020 0:07:57 GMT 1
We could make a decent team out of the last 10 years worth of loanees we’ve had. Ward Chilwell Kongolo Morrison Kelly Mooy Drinkwater Brown Palmer Ward Vaughan Not bad, apart from Ward. Is he really the best on loan keeper we've had in 10 years ? Only asking cos I CBA looking up any more |
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Post by Moooooy on Jan 2, 2020 0:10:21 GMT 1
We could make a decent team out of the last 10 years worth of loanees we’ve had. Ward Chilwell Kongolo Morrison Kelly Mooy Drinkwater Brown Palmer Ward Vaughan Not bad, apart from Ward. Is he really the best on loan keeper we've had in 10 years ? Only asking cos I CBA looking up any more Jed Steer is the only other one I can remember. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2020 0:11:11 GMT 1
Not bad, apart from Ward. Is he really the best on loan keeper we've had in 10 years ? Only asking cos I CBA looking up any more Jed Steer is the only other one I can remember. TBH I preferred him anyway |
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Post by midlander on Jan 2, 2020 0:16:01 GMT 1
We've had a few high impact loan singings, off the top of my head: Kongolo Horne Thornley Knight Ndlovu So that's one in the last 15 years Kachunga and Lössl. Palmer, Brown, Mooy and Ward. Flo on loan as well. All made an impact as loan signings. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2020 0:25:25 GMT 1
So that's one in the last 15 years Kachunga and Lössl. Palmer, Brown, Mooy and Ward. Flo on loan as well. All made an impact as loan signings. But only 3 signed permanently and only Mooy actually kept up that standard after signing properly. As I said I was only looking at the original list though |
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Post by midlander on Jan 2, 2020 0:31:58 GMT 1
Mounié attracting other French interest (other than Nimes) as well as interest from Germany and the inevitable Turkey. According to l'équipe, we value him in the 5m Euro plus bracket
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 2, 2020 0:33:42 GMT 1
Mounié attracting other French interest (other than Nimes) as well as interest from Germany and the inevitable Turkey. According to l'équipe, we value him in the 5m Euro plus bracket Might as well keep him at that price then |
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Post by midlander on Jan 2, 2020 0:43:15 GMT 1
Mounié attracting other French interest (other than Nimes) as well as interest from Germany and the inevitable Turkey. According to l'équipe, we value him in the 5m Euro plus bracket Might as well keep him at that price then I would keep him personally, but could you honestly say he is worth €5m based on last 18mths? His goals in season 1 kept us up. If we got half of what we paid it'd be a decent deal. Plus a big wedge of wage which could be used elsewhere. |
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Post by mrg on Jan 2, 2020 0:44:18 GMT 1
I agree that Diabenza is rubbish and wants to leave but they are a better option that what we’ve had on the bench. They are not the only players who want to leave. We going to stop playing Grant cause he has his eye on the Premier League next season? The manager has publicly stated that several members of our squad are currently “unavailable” for selection. I took this as being that (amongst others) Mbenza & Diakhaby have made it clear they no longer want to play for Town, injured or otherwise, and consequently are not being considered for selection. What a shitty state of affairs if actually true. It is actually true, after Bristol city when kongolo couldn't defend against a stiff breeze DC said he and the 2 wingers wont be playing again. I'm ok with it if we can replace them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 1:04:47 GMT 1
Might as well keep him at that price then I would keep him personally, but could you honestly say he is worth €5m based on last 18mths? His goals in season 1 kept us up. If we got half of what we paid it'd be a decent deal. Plus a big wedge of wage which could be used elsewhere. You don’t sign for £11m without a big wage deal. He must be in the top 3-4 earners at the club. Does that equate to his value in the squad? I dare say selling him for £5m would pay the transfer fees of 3 new signings and his wages would pay the lot of them too. I like him though and would much rather others left first. That’s not how it works, unfortunately. |
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Post by midlander on Jan 2, 2020 1:09:52 GMT 1
I would keep him personally, but could you honestly say he is worth €5m based on last 18mths? His goals in season 1 kept us up. If we got half of what we paid it'd be a decent deal. Plus a big wedge of wage which could be used elsewhere. You don’t sign for £11m without a big wage deal. He must be in the top 3-4 earners at the club. Does that equate to his value in the squad? I dare say selling him for £5m would pay the transfer fees of 3 new signings and his wages would pay the lot of them too. I like him though and would much rather others left first. That’s not how it works, unfortunately. That is exactly how I see it as well. |
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Post by townrwe on Jan 2, 2020 8:47:17 GMT 1
Mounié attracting other French interest (other than Nimes) as well as interest from Germany and the inevitable Turkey. According to l'équipe, we value him in the 5m Euro plus bracket If he keeps his current form through January he will be worth double by the 31st at least. Selling him when he is scoring and grant isnt would be suicidal. Hes showing why we paid the money for him, and the cowleys seem to be getting the very best stevie mounie and the crowd are really behind him been a success, probably fueled by the cowleys stating that big steve is the model professional. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jan 2, 2020 9:20:37 GMT 1
The manager has publicly stated that several members of our squad are currently “unavailable” for selection. I took this as being that (amongst others) Mbenza & Diakhaby have made it clear they no longer want to play for Town, injured or otherwise, and consequently are not being considered for selection. What a shitty state of affairs if actually true. It is actually true, after Bristol city when kongolo couldn't defend against a stiff breeze DC said he and the 2 wingers wont be playing again. I'm ok with it if we can replace them. He also stated that they see Flo as a winger so why not play him there yesterday for some natural width? |
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Post by shawsie on Jan 2, 2020 9:29:38 GMT 1
It is actually true, after Bristol city when kongolo couldn't defend against a stiff breeze DC said he and the 2 wingers wont be playing again. I'm ok with it if we can replace them. He also stated that they see Flo as a winger so why not play him there yesterday for some natural width? I genuinely suspect right now the cowleys are worried men. They cant get any more out of this lot and it's still debatable whether that is good enough to stay up. They need help....new players with ability, desire, application, leadership - whether we get these is another question because the recruitment has been bizarre (or just plain shite if you ask me) for a couple of years now. The new ownership and management have inherited an absolute mess - we have to hope that the financial constraints of DH departure dont mean we have to rely on young loanees only until we can shift the players on who simply cant be arsed or who we can get good money for. |
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Post by capitalterrier on Jan 2, 2020 9:34:59 GMT 1
Its disgraceful that 3 players costing circa 35 million pounds can just down tools and say they don't want to play. I hope they aren't getting paid. Imagine if we turned up to work and said we can't be arsed.
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Post by mrg on Jan 2, 2020 9:37:37 GMT 1
He also stated that they see Flo as a winger so why not play him there yesterday for some natural width? I genuinely suspect right now the cowleys are worried men. They cant get any more out of this lot and it's still debatable whether that is good enough to stay up. They need help....new players with ability, desire, application, leadership - whether we get these is another question because the recruitment has been bizarre (or just plain shite if you ask me) for a couple of years now. The new ownership and management have inherited an absolute mess - we have to hope that the financial constraints of DH departure dont mean we have to rely on young loanees only until we can shift the players on who simply cant be arsed or who we can get good money for. I'll second that. They see him as the weakest link of young players at the moment and took 1 risk too many yesterday anyway. I picked up from the interview that kacha was maybe injured. Hopefully not for long. Hopefully our dof David whatever his title is will have done players lined up. The hef is an easy one. They say never go back but this time it might work, even if only for this season. Hopefully his forest contract isnt like 30k a week or something daft. And hopefully we have enough moolah left to buy some midfielders and a left back. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 2, 2020 9:38:49 GMT 1
I agree that Diabenza is rubbish and wants to leave but they are a better option that what we’ve had on the bench. They are not the only players who want to leave. We going to stop playing Grant cause he has his eye on the Premier League next season? The manager has publicly stated that several members of our squad are currently “unavailable” for selection. I took this as being that (amongst others) Mbenza & Diakhaby have made it clear they no longer want to play for Town, injured or otherwise, and consequently are not being considered for selection. What a shitty state of affairs if actually true. was bound to happen when we were relegated. I suspect they only came for the money anyway. Feck em. Get rid. |
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Post by townrwe on Jan 2, 2020 9:43:04 GMT 1
Two players due at canalside this morning.
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Post by alexdire on Jan 2, 2020 9:43:55 GMT 1
Its disgraceful that 3 players costing circa 35 million pounds can just down tools and say they don't want to play. I hope they aren't getting paid. Imagine if we turned up to work and said we can't be arsed. Maybe there is more to it. The contracts might have appearance payments in them or we could have to pay more to their former clubs on the completion of a certain number of games. Probably decided to stop throwing good money after bad as they need to get their wages of the books. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 2, 2020 9:44:04 GMT 1
Two players due at canalside this morning. really? I would have thought about 20 were due this morning. Have they been given the day off? |
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Post by townatheart on Jan 2, 2020 9:48:48 GMT 1
Two players due at canalside this morning. really? I would have thought about 20 were due this morning. Have they been given the day off? Surely you are not questioning the accuracy of the all knowing wise one townrwe   |
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Post by philstarbuckscoffee on Jan 2, 2020 10:00:49 GMT 1
Are there any recent interviews from PH about the January window? I foolishly thought we would have an announcement on the 1st due to all the rumours of deals both in and out lined up over the last few months. After yesterday’s game I’m gutted as the squad is miles off and when players like Simpson are making uncharacteristic mistakes you wonder if a lack of rotation, bringing players back early and players carrying knocks is having a big effect on individual performances as the managers seem to have very little other options at present to change things. I’m sure they would rather play O’Brien central and drop TC but was anyone else fit to start and take his place?
I know we won’t publicly state we have funds to spend as it will drive prices up but it would be reassuring to hear something from PH or David Webb about progress so far. Fingers crossed for some good news (in or out) soon and the Cowleys getting some much needed help!
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jan 2, 2020 10:10:49 GMT 1
Its disgraceful that 3 players costing circa 35 million pounds can just down tools and say they don't want to play. I hope they aren't getting paid. Imagine if we turned up to work and said we can't be arsed. Of course it's not right but it's football not the real world, it happens all the time, at all clubs, some bigger and better than ours, look at Pogba and Man United for example - for the record I've spent 30 years as a HGV driver, working a 60 hour week, two nights away from home to earn around the same in a month that Kongolo pockets on a daily basis and if I'm off sick not getting paid. So no. It's not right but it's the way things are. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 2, 2020 10:14:56 GMT 1
It’s the FA Cup on Saturday, just 48 hours away. The team will fly down tomorrow to Southampton, I assume. There’ll also be a deadline for when new players can play in it, so there’s three options:
1. Incomings are imminent, or
2. We play more-or-less the same team as yesterday, or
3. We play youngsters, plus Coleman and Campbell and Hadergjonaj.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jan 2, 2020 10:40:55 GMT 1
It’s the FA Cup on Saturday, just 48 hours away. The team will fly down tomorrow to Southampton, I assume. There’ll also be a deadline for when new players can play in it, so there’s three options: 1. Incomings are imminent, or 2. We play more-or-less the same team as yesterday, or 3. We play youngsters, plus Coleman and Campbell and Hadergjonaj. To aid rotation and resting key players, I'd play the unholy trio of Diakhaby, Mbenza and Kongolo along with Reece Brown (if he's still here) and anyone else deemed surplus to requirements. Make them do something to earn their crust. Let's face it, we aren't going to win the Cup anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 10:44:32 GMT 1
It’s the FA Cup on Saturday, just 48 hours away. The team will fly down tomorrow to Southampton, I assume. There’ll also be a deadline for when new players can play in it, so there’s three options: 1. Incomings are imminent, or 2. We play more-or-less the same team as yesterday, or 3. We play youngsters, plus Coleman and Campbell and Hadergjonaj. To aid rotation and resting key players, I'd play the unholy trio of Diakhaby, Mbenza and Kongolo along with Reece Brown (if he's still here) and anyone else deemed surplus to requirements. Make them do something to earn their crust. Let's face it, we aren't going to win the Cup anyway. Except in our worst nightmare the 'unholy trio' pick up injury's and scupper their moves.  |
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