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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 3, 2020 15:56:51 GMT 1
I have just been told we are very interested in Lincoln left back Harry toffolo. He's out of contact in the summer but town are keen to do a deal for him now if the price is right. They should send Bockhorn the other way as part of the deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 15:57:39 GMT 1
There should be a rule protecting the club's against rogue players attitudes,the players should be judged by a neutral panel if chosen to play and performances scrutinised,if found guilty contracts should be ripped up or wages not payed at least,no other industry would put up with such shite. On what grounds? They are fit and available for selection, but the management team don't want to select them. Cowley's have cut of their nose, now they just need to make sure they can get rid of the old one and get a nice new Beverley hills one. Upto the deadline the Cowleys set of 1st of December seemingly, when they had new player meetings, they were mostly part of the match-day squad, after those meetings they were in the u23s. Presumably they weren't committed to the cause and were instructing their agents to find them a move. Life moves on, but calling them rogues is a bit harsh. People in every workplace turn up to work, do a job, but are looking for another one. You really believe they were turning up and 'doing a job'? You readily admit presumably they weren't committed to the cause. Try turning up at your place of work, make it plain you no longer wish to work there and you make it apparent you're not putting the necessary effort in because you're 'not committed to the cause'. See how long it takes for your gaffer to 'cut off his nose'. If you're putting the necessary effort in of course there wouldn't be a problem. |
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Post by Ross83 on Jan 3, 2020 16:04:53 GMT 1
Sounds like a no deal for Super Steve  Apologies if posted but in his recent interview he comments how he is committed to the cause and happy and at home in Huddersfield. Really hope it works out for him now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:11:15 GMT 1
What’s with this telling players they aren’t playing again, more importantly telling the whole world? This tactic must have cost us 20 million at a guess. After years of spending every pound i had to spare supporting this club it breaks my heart. When you look at how much hard work is involved for the club to generate say ONE Million pounds through either Club shop / Commercial income or even Season Card sales, it must be soul destroying for those involved to see such enormous sums literally dropping off the clubs balance sheet, almost certainly never to return. Absolutely! Mr Jarvis seems to slog his guts out trying to bring in every extra few quid he can. How much did Paddy Power give us to make us their in-house punchline? It’s like watching a chap working every hour of overtime going whilst his wife’s emptying the shelves at M&S. We’d have to shift 200,000,000 carrier bags in the club shop to make back what we blew on Mbenza & Diakhaby alone. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 3, 2020 16:15:12 GMT 1
On what grounds? They are fit and available for selection, but the management team don't want to select them. Cowley's have cut of their nose, now they just need to make sure they can get rid of the old one and get a nice new Beverley hills one. Upto the deadline the Cowleys set of 1st of December seemingly, when they had new player meetings, they were mostly part of the match-day squad, after those meetings they were in the u23s. Presumably they weren't committed to the cause and were instructing their agents to find them a move. Life moves on, but calling them rogues is a bit harsh. People in every workplace turn up to work, do a job, but are looking for another one. You really believe they were turning up and 'doing a job'? You readily admit presumably they weren't committed to the cause. Try turning up at your place of work, make it plain you no longer wish to work there and you make it apparent you're not putting the necessary effort in because you're 'not committed to the cause'. See how long it takes for your gaffer to 'cut off his nose'. If you're putting the necessary effort in of course there wouldn't be a problem. You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... |
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 16:19:07 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. What’s with this telling players they aren’t playing again, more importantly telling the whole world? This tactic must have cost us 20 million at a guess. After years of spending every pound i had to spare supporting this club it breaks my heart. But not one of the players on that list showered themselves in any glory and were all instigaters in getting moves away from the club. I have nothing but contempt for any of them and I wouldn’t expect any of them to get anything other than a rough ride from our supporters if they were to return in opposition colours. There are ways and there are ways in which to leave a football club, Aaron Mooy has been exemplary in the manner in which he left us and the ones on that list would have done well to have taken note. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 3, 2020 16:22:49 GMT 1
You really believe they were turning up and 'doing a job'? You readily admit presumably they weren't committed to the cause. Try turning up at your place of work, make it plain you no longer wish to work there and you make it apparent you're not putting the necessary effort in because you're 'not committed to the cause'. See how long it takes for your gaffer to 'cut off his nose'. If you're putting the necessary effort in of course there wouldn't be a problem. You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... Think you are forgetting it was our 4th game in 10 days.. Our lack of squad meant that 9 or 10 of the team played played all 4 games.. Stoke for example made 5 changes from the team that had played 3 days earlier.. Fatigue had to be a big factor in our poor performance |
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Post by willo on Jan 3, 2020 16:29:54 GMT 1
You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... Think you are forgetting it was our 4th game in 10 days.. Our lack of squad meant that 9 or 10 of the team played played all 4 games.. Stoke for example made 5 changes from the team that had played 3 days earlier.. Fatigue had to be a big factor in our poor performance That shouldn’t be the problem for the next 6 weeks, no mid-week game now til mid-Feb (unless we draw v Soton). |
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Post by boooothy on Jan 3, 2020 16:29:54 GMT 1
What’s with this telling players they aren’t playing again, more importantly telling the whole world? This tactic must have cost us 20 million at a guess. After years of spending every pound i had to spare supporting this club it breaks my heart. But not one of the players on that list showered themselves in any glory and were all instigaters in getting moves away from the club. I have nothing but contempt for any of them and I wouldn’t expect any of them to get anything other than a rough ride from our supporters if they were to return in opposition colours. There are ways and there are ways in which to leave a football club, Aaron Mooy has been exemplary in the manner in which he left us and the ones on that list would have done well to have taken note. No argument there from me. What i think has been ignored by the club is these are/were assets. Nothing more, just assets owned by the club. We seem to have everything we could to devalue these assets for no reason i can see other than to “look hard” to the fans. I for one would rather of us looked like total mugs with an extra few million to invest. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 3, 2020 16:33:44 GMT 1
You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... Think you are forgetting it was our 4th game in 10 days.. Our lack of squad meant that 9 or 10 of the team played played all 4 games.. Stoke for example made 5 changes from the team that had played 3 days earlier.. Fatigue had to be a big factor in our poor performance There was a lack of care, we watched it live. We had the first half off. The goals came from seriously poor errors and some odd idea that playing in triangles in our own half or being negative in theirs would work. 2 1 up, 3 subs....we didn't deserve to be winning and it was clear the puff was going from some. Poor management and playing 8 short passes only wastes as much time as a huge hoof into the opponents corner flag area and it's very much riskier... We failed to play with the team we had out and the circumstances of the games already played, we also failed to play a very weak ref. 2 goals in as many minutes from simply putting it into their box??? Play the percentages?? Get Campbell bothering 2 centre backs who both had already made silly challenges and were ready to blow as they were behind again??? If we are going to be professional then let's go all the way... |
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Post by Uddersfield on Jan 3, 2020 16:34:17 GMT 1
You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... Think you are forgetting it was our 4th game in 10 days.. Our lack of squad meant that 9 or 10 of the team played played all 4 games.. Stoke for example made 5 changes from the team that had played 3 days earlier.. Fatigue had to be a big factor in our poor performance Exactly. We've hardly been able to rotate at all for just under 2 months and when we have it's been youth players. We've done well considering how bare we are with the team and picked up some good wins. You can tell how knackered everyone was, even O'Brien who's got the best engine in the team was blowing out of his arse. However, now its January I highly expect a fair few faces to come in and freshen things up and the quicker the better. Part of me hopes we will be a completely new team and will kick on to a mid-table finish, the other part has a dread that the players leaving will drag their heels and therefore could hinder players coming in sooner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:36:25 GMT 1
You really believe they were turning up and 'doing a job'? You readily admit presumably they weren't committed to the cause. Try turning up at your place of work, make it plain you no longer wish to work there and you make it apparent you're not putting the necessary effort in because you're 'not committed to the cause'. See how long it takes for your gaffer to 'cut off his nose'. If you're putting the necessary effort in of course there wouldn't be a problem. You cannot make them play properly, you cannot use lack of effort or care as a breach of contract etc.. If they inform the club they are not available for selection then I assume you can withhold wages? But do some of them give a shit? Is any player daft enough to say I wont play??? Dont care what anyone says, a player that has been a pain in the arse must be viewed by suitors in that light? Maybe footballers and those that deal with them are very different from those who have and do proper jobs? Silly money, silly football clubs offering silly deals and the lack of cover the clubs write into contracts fucking amazes me. So many clubs paying players that no longer play for them is a sign of the utter madness of it all. Then again had Grabara and Simpson changed positions before the stoke game would it/could it have gone any worse? The lack of care was appalling from many players and other than o brien they all looked like they had taken their bat home... Of course you can't make them play properly, and no I don't believe for one second any of them have refused to play. The fact they were removed from training with the rest of the squad says it all for me. I wouldn't pick out one game (Stoke) and use that as an indicator of the 'care' from the ones left. Mistakes from generally reliable players like Simpson aren't the norm. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 3, 2020 16:38:19 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. This tactic must have cost us 20 million at a guess. After years of spending every pound i had to spare supporting this club it breaks my heart. Exactly. Its one thing not to pick a player but to advertise the fact that they won't be picked again without having a sale lined up is ludicrous. I'm sure we could have got more for Billing and Zanka in the summer had PH not told the world that they wouldn't be picked gain under his watch. |
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Post by dirtysteve on Jan 3, 2020 16:41:16 GMT 1
Can’t see many offers coming in for any of the shit we want to offload. If we need to sell in order to buy I fear it’s gonna be a shite window. We need to get Brighton to buy Mooy, this is the only money I think we will get. Come the end of the season we’ll still be in a relegation battle....
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Post by dirtysteve on Jan 3, 2020 16:41:28 GMT 1
Can’t see many offers coming in for any of the shit we want to offload. If we need to sell in order to buy I fear it’s gonna be a shite window. We need to get Brighton to buy Mooy, this is the only money I think we will get. Come the end of the season we’ll still be in a relegation battle....
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Post by dirtysteve on Jan 3, 2020 16:42:12 GMT 1
Thought I’d say it twice.... itchy finger
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:46:05 GMT 1
I really don't understand why we didn't have deals ready to go as soon as the window opened. We are desperately short and needed players in in time to play against Saints, in order to be ready for Barnsley next week. This window is going to be a total bust again, isn't it? its obvious by your opening line that you know nothing about how the system works. its notalways down to town. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:46:37 GMT 1
Thought I’d say it twice.... itchy finger You do know you can delete posts...Don't you? |
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Post by drumriggend on Jan 3, 2020 16:49:09 GMT 1
Can’t see many offers coming in for any of the shit we want to offload. If we need to sell in order to buy I fear it’s gonna be a shite window. We need to get Brighton to buy Mooy, this is the only money I think we will get. Come the end of the season we’ll still be in a relegation battle.... Hope I’m wrong.... Can we not put diakbenza on ebay? Bogof offer.. 2 french wingers.. Barely used.. Very quick.. Free delivery( ill drive em there missen) One week auction.. No returns.. Reserve price.. £500k.. 😳 |
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Post by Melc on Jan 3, 2020 16:50:11 GMT 1
I have just been told we are very interested in Lincoln left back Harry toffolo. He's out of contact in the summer but town are keen to do a deal for him now if the price is right. They should send Bockhorn the other way as part of the deal. His situation has got, contract cancellation by mutual agreement written all over it! |
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Post by royrace on Jan 3, 2020 16:54:06 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 16:56:15 GMT 1
Lyle Taylor was asked why Karlan Grant signed for us when we were likely to be in the same division the following year. He said Grant wanted to score goals in the last 5 months of the Premier League season and catch the eye of another Premier League team. Nothing wrong with that but clear he doesn’t want to stay at Town longer than he has to. There's a world of difference between a player having the ambition to play at the highest level possible and a player actively looking to get away...and you know that full well. spot on mids. |
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Post by benhomly on Jan 3, 2020 17:01:17 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. THE most stupid thing I’ve ever heard the club say publically was ‘we will not sleepwalk to relegation’ |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 3, 2020 17:02:55 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. Very clear to me why King David left. What I still cannot get my head around is how, after the euphoria of getting promoted and then 1st season survival , the club totally caved in and accepted our fate and indeed, accelerated our demise with the recruitment policy. Makes me wonder why we bothered to go up in the first place. |
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Post by digs on Jan 3, 2020 17:03:11 GMT 1
Meltdown and tears expected on here,if Kasey Palmer goes to Swansea
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 17:03:29 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. But, we are such a "Well run Club" right ? Everybody knows that.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 17:07:03 GMT 1
Zanka Billing Mbenza Diakhaby Sobhi Sabiri Kongolo Brown I may have missed others. All have been told they’re not gonna play for us again in the past 12 months. The result is we’re seemingly skint, in a relegation dogfight with a squad full of academy lads. Never before has a club been so mismanaged to bring such a downfall from the euphoric high of 18 months ago. Bravo to everybody concerned. What’s with this telling players they aren’t playing again, more importantly telling the whole world? This tactic must have cost us 20 million at a guess. After years of spending every pound i had to spare supporting this club it breaks my heart. gdness sake lad man up |
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 3, 2020 17:10:22 GMT 1
I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. THE most stupid thing I’ve ever heard the club say publically was ‘we will not sleepwalk to relegation’ Dafter than "not blowing our brains out" as we cocked and loaded the gun 🤨 |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jan 3, 2020 17:15:24 GMT 1
I said at the time that telling everyone we we were looking at a 3 window squad overhaul at the time Siewert came in was an idiotic thing to say for a number of different reasons. Probably THE most stupid thing I've ever heard the club say publicly. Then they're surprised when motivation drops and the club isnt able to negotiate decent deals. The damage was done when Diakbenza were purchased though due to their lack of quality and suitability versus price, Kongolo was always a PL player at £17M and should have been moved on sooner. He is one I'm surprised at for downing tools though. If you'd have told me the club would make such a dogs dinner of the PL opportunity I wouldn't have believed it. Its almost like the takeover and the desperation to slash costs and pay Dean back affected everything the club did towards the end of the season although the start of the downfall was during the summer. Is anyone at all surprised now that Wagner couldn't wait to get out? Stressed my arse, he'd have been an absolute idiot to stick around for this. THE most stupid thing I’ve ever heard the club say publically was ‘we will not sleepwalk to relegation’ [br Agreed. And in reality we actually sprinted there faster than Usain Bolt. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 3, 2020 17:22:03 GMT 1
Can somebody tell me who they think sanctioned the transfer deals in summer 2018 if Wagner had nothing to do with them?
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