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Heysel
Jun 2, 2020 21:11:27 GMT 1
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 2, 2020 21:11:27 GMT 1
My sons are in their 20s and I tell em what it was like following Town away in the 80s. Im not even sure they believe me, its just so different from what theyve grown up experiencing. Treat like animals by the police. Stopped miles away from the venue, taken off the coach and frisked at the side of the road. Escorted in, frog marched to the stadium where you are put in a cage by a corner flag. No beer on sale..no concourse bookies and TVs, no roof on the bogs. Then frog marched back to the coaches and escorted away with all kinds of debris bouncing off the windows. What they know is arriving on a coach and going for a wonder around the ground, finding a pub and having a few pints with the home fans. Walking round to our turnstiles, Maybe having a quick one in the ground watching Jeff Stelling on the telly. Then back to the pub afterwards with the home fans whilst the traffic clears, then make your way home. To say its a different experience is an understatement! I am still bloody traumatised from an away game to Leeds on a special, mid 80's. On arrival, we were held at the station and some guy was screaming repeatedly, "this is it lads, hit every fucking thing that fucking moves and always stand your fucking ground!' And that was a police sergeant!
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Heysel
Jun 2, 2020 22:03:38 GMT 1
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Post by conman on Jun 2, 2020 22:03:38 GMT 1
Yep, we were there when football was unfashionable, and when non football goers instantly thought `hooligansism` and that going to a match was like going to downtown Beirut, how so much different it is today! My sons are in their 20s and I tell em what it was like following Town away in the 80s. Im not even sure they believe me, its just so different from what theyve grown up experiencing. Treat like animals by the police. Stopped miles away from the venue, taken off the coach and frisked at the side of the road. Escorted in, frog marched to the stadium where you are put in a cage by a corner flag. No beer on sale..no concourse bookies and TVs, no roof on the bogs. Then frog marched back to the coaches and escorted away with all kinds of debris bouncing off the windows. What they know is arriving on a coach and going for a wonder around the ground, finding a pub and having a few pints with the home fans. Walking round to our turnstiles, Maybe having a quick one in the ground watching Jeff Stelling on the telly. Then back to the pub afterwards with the home fans whilst the traffic clears, then make your way home. To say its a different experience is an understatement! It all sounds a bit four Yorkshiremen'ish ,but it's all absolutely spot on. Saying that,those were the days and I wouldn't swap em for anything (including the good seven or eight hours in the Crown on matchdays).
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Heysel
Jun 2, 2020 22:56:39 GMT 1
Post by wildbillthetownfan on Jun 2, 2020 22:56:39 GMT 1
Does anyone remember that big guy who use to sell the Pink Final by the Town café, just was as the match had finished but some how they had all the results the same fella did it for years.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 3, 2020 0:07:46 GMT 1
My sons are in their 20s and I tell em what it was like following Town away in the 80s. Im not even sure they believe me, its just so different from what theyve grown up experiencing. Treat like animals by the police. Stopped miles away from the venue, taken off the coach and frisked at the side of the road. Escorted in, frog marched to the stadium where you are put in a cage by a corner flag. No beer on sale..no concourse bookies and TVs, no roof on the bogs. Then frog marched back to the coaches and escorted away with all kinds of debris bouncing off the windows. What they know is arriving on a coach and going for a wonder around the ground, finding a pub and having a few pints with the home fans. Walking round to our turnstiles, Maybe having a quick one in the ground watching Jeff Stelling on the telly. Then back to the pub afterwards with the home fans whilst the traffic clears, then make your way home. To say its a different experience is an understatement! I am still bloody traumatised from an away to Leeds on a special, mid 80's. On arrival, we were held at the station and some guy was screaming repeatedly, "this is it lads, hit every fucking thing that fucking moves and always stand your fucking ground!' And that was a police sergeant! One of the funniest things I ever saw was after a game at Leeds. Big group of Town fans being frogmarched back to the station, coppers on all sides, including lots of horseback. Got to some bit where it all got a bit tight on the road, so everyone was getting squished together. Just to me right was a police horse and as we plodded on this horse lifted its tail and did an enormous wet fart straight into the bloke who was unlucky enough to be walking right behind it! Just a huge steaming cloud of shit vapour. Pebbled dashed him, his shirt, his face. Im pissing myself now remembering it!
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 6:07:24 GMT 1
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 3, 2020 6:07:24 GMT 1
Does anyone remember that big guy who use to sell the Pink Final by the Town café, just was as the match had finished but some how they had all the results the same fella did it for years. Yep, I remember him. He used to wear a big duffle coat. He used to come into all the pubs around town on Saturday teatime/evening.
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 7:17:25 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 3, 2020 7:17:25 GMT 1
Does anyone remember that big guy who use to sell the Pink Final by the Town café, just was as the match had finished but some how they had all the results the same fella did it for years. Yep, I remember him. He used to wear a big duffle coat. He used to come into all the pubs around town on Saturday teatime/evening. We'd see him on our way home from the game and then, after tea, we'd go to The Shay to watch the Dukes and he'd be stood selling there too
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 7:45:43 GMT 1
Post by lorddriffield on Jun 3, 2020 7:45:43 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years.
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 8:02:52 GMT 1
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 3, 2020 8:02:52 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years. Bad old days mate.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 3, 2020 9:30:25 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years. You can only say how tragic and bad it was so many times. We were just recalling the way football supporting was at the time, which played a big part in Heysel.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jun 3, 2020 11:17:10 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years. If you took a minute to climb down from your pulpit and read the thread you'll see that people were saying it's hard to believe the match went ahead despite the fact people had died inside the stadium - I was one of a number of people who brought up how things were different in the 80's, games started despite bomb threats for example, which would definitely abandon the game today. So it wasn't a glorification of the old days, it was a statement of fact that was relevant to the Heysel stadium, even if it was leading off at a slight tangent, can you recall a 3 page thread on here that never deviates ?
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 11:42:51 GMT 1
Post by turbo2 on Jun 3, 2020 11:42:51 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years. You can only say how tragic and bad it was so many times. We were just recalling the way football supporting was at the time, which played a big part in Heysel. Back in the 80s football could have taken two directions, disappeared or turn the corner. It actually needed several disasters for it to wake up. Bradford Fire, Heysel and Hillsborough. The one thing i could never understand with the Hillsborough investigation was the lack of understanding of how football was in that era. Especially when you consider Heysel only a few of years earlier.. Football fans were treated like scum by the police and the government. I went to many an away game where my old man saw what was happening and predicted the police would actually start the mayhem
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Heysel
Jun 3, 2020 12:45:56 GMT 1
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 3, 2020 12:45:56 GMT 1
A pity that this particular thread, which was probably started in good faith by the OP, has degenerated into fond memories of the good old days by men of a certain age. Back to the original theme: No one who goes to a football game deserves to return home in a coffin. In Memoria e Amicizia. May the 39 Rest in Peace and their loved ones get some solace by the fact that we've come a long way in 35 years. If you took a minute to climb down from your pulpit and read the thread you'll see that people were saying it's hard to believe the match went ahead despite the fact people had died inside the stadium - I was one of a number of people who brought up how things were different in the 80's, games started despite bomb threats for example, which would definitely abandon the game today. So it wasn't a glorification of the old days, it was a statement of fact that was relevant to the Heysel stadium, even if it was leading off at a slight tangent, can you recall a 3 page thread on here that never deviates ? And this comes from a fella who tries to divert everything towards Liverpool FC. Some might say what's a Liverpool fan doing on here so much?
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