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Post by royrace on Jul 20, 2020 23:23:38 GMT 1
He was a turd polisher back in Spain. The whole basis of the takeover was that the squad was worth approaching 100 million pounds. I can understand why Phil doesn’t want to write this money off. Caveat emptor. Phil should have asked me, I could have told him what they were worth a month after they signed. Does seem like he’s been sold a pup. “sweat the assets”, Lol, unfortunately it’s tother way around. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is polishing those turds into anything capable of making an impact in the English championship.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 23:23:45 GMT 1
As bad as Diakhaby has been he was actually playing well before that game. Blackburn away he was unplayable for half an hour. He was even better in the 3-0 win v Hull at home. Every time he got the ball, Hull absolutely shit their pants. The same Hull City that conceded seven in 45 mins last week?
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Post by shawsie on Jul 20, 2020 23:27:09 GMT 1
Can’t disagree with most of that but it was still bizarre. There was 6 weeks or something to the transfer window with loads of games in between and he’s chucking players on the scrap heap. Kongolo had an absolute shocker at PNE too. But surely you’ve got to expect wingers to have bad games without bombing them out. I understand the thinking but it suggested they couldn’t find a way to motivate them. But the wingers have to have good games also surely? Ive seen one good game between em - diakhaby second half v hull at home. Hull are going down....nuff said. Mbenza scored a one on one after a dreadful luke shaw error....other than a good cross in another game then im struggling to remember a material contribution from him!
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Post by boooothy on Jul 20, 2020 23:30:06 GMT 1
He was a turd polisher back in Spain. The whole basis of the takeover was that the squad was worth approaching 100 million pounds. I can understand why Phil doesn’t want to write this money off. Caveat emptor. Phil should have asked me, I could have told him what they were worth a month after they signed. Does seem like he’s been sold a pup. “sweat the assets”, Lol, unfortunately it’s tother way around. Nobody, I repeat nobody, is polishing those turds into anything capable of making an impact in the English championship. It was home game against Cardiff nil nil. My mate was worried that we’d dropped 2 points. I told him then we have bigger things to worry about than 2 points, them wingers are shite.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 20, 2020 23:34:44 GMT 1
Kongolo had an absolute shocker at PNE too. But surely you’ve got to expect wingers to have bad games without bombing them out. I understand the thinking but it suggested they couldn’t find a way to motivate them. But the wingers have to have good games also surely? Ive seen one good game between em - diakhaby second half v hull at home. Hull are going down....nuff said. Mbenza scored a one on one after a dreadful luke shaw error....other than a good cross in another game then im struggling to remember a material contribution from him! Diakhaby has had more good games than that for us. He had some good performances in the Premier League and has had more than one good half this season. He was in decent form earlier in the season, not setting the world alight but better than our wingers have been the last month or so and at least looked dangerous. But again just lump him with Mbenza because they're both quick.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 20, 2020 23:37:30 GMT 1
Mounie, Pritchard, Mbenza, Hadergjonai and Diakhaby are all out of contract after next season. Given the pandemic rocking the football world, these lot will be anxious to get their next contract (undeservedly put Mounie in this bracket but you get the point), so perhaps this is a final attempt to get these guys performing now that our interests are more aligned.
As much as I think Cowley did a good job and I disagree with his sacking... I do think that after all the chat about doing a psychological job to lift the squad he threw it all out after Bristol and changed his stance from then on.
There's a lot of complaints that it appears Phil went back on agreements with the Cowleys, but I do think it's a bit from both sides.
Anyone can come in and bomb players out, I don't think that was in the job description but desperate times need desperate measures.
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Post by ldotm on Jul 20, 2020 23:42:38 GMT 1
He was even better in the 3-0 win v Hull at home. Every time he got the ball, Hull absolutely shit their pants. The same Hull City that conceded seven in 45 mins last week? What’s your point here? Where am I claiming that Hull are a good team or Diakhaby is a good player? Because I’m not. The OP claimed he actually had the odd good game and I specified Hull was his best game. For the record, Hull was actually doing alright at the time, it was post January where they sold their best two players and started their downfall. That alright with you buddy?
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Post by royrace on Jul 20, 2020 23:45:20 GMT 1
Remember when everyone on here used to say VLP was shit. £23M and we’ve not managed to find anyone fit to lace his boots.
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Post by boooothy on Jul 20, 2020 23:45:45 GMT 1
Just appeared on Examiner App. Kongolo could be going to AZ Alkmaar on loan. Who at the club is going to be negotiating these deals for 15 million pound investments? There doesn’t appear to be anyone qualified. If we are going down the head coach not manager surely we are not expecting Bromby to suddenly become an expert in world football and agents etc.
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Post by boooothy on Jul 20, 2020 23:47:35 GMT 1
Remember when everyone on here used to say VLP was shit. £23M and we’ve not managed to find anyone fit to lace his boots. I never said that. Best winger we’ve had since Ben Thornley (the loan version)
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 20, 2020 23:51:55 GMT 1
Remember when everyone on here used to say VLP was shit. £23M and we’ve not managed to find anyone fit to lace his boots. Wish we had him back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 23:56:53 GMT 1
The same Hull City that conceded seven in 45 mins last week? What’s your point here? Where am I claiming that Hull are a good team or Diakhaby is a good player? Because I’m not. The OP claimed he actually had the odd good game and I specified Hull was his best game. For the record, Hull was actually doing alright at the time, it was post January where they sold their best two players and started their downfall. That alright with you buddy? I was there that day and he played okay, but your original statement made out the Hull defenders were 'shitting themselves' because of Diakhaby's presence. My point is that it's because they were relegation fodder. That alright with you Mrs Diakhaby?
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Post by bluestripe on Jul 21, 2020 0:06:53 GMT 1
Remember when everyone on here used to say VLP was shit. £23M and we’ve not managed to find anyone fit to lace his boots. Damned with faint praise.
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Post by ldotm on Jul 21, 2020 0:11:41 GMT 1
What’s your point here? Where am I claiming that Hull are a good team or Diakhaby is a good player? Because I’m not. The OP claimed he actually had the odd good game and I specified Hull was his best game. For the record, Hull was actually doing alright at the time, it was post January where they sold their best two players and started their downfall. That alright with you buddy? I was there that day and he played okay, but your original statement made out the Hull defenders were 'shitting themselves' because of Diakhaby's presence. My point is that it's because they were relegation fodder. That alright with you Mrs Diakhaby? Yeah he was running rings around them, therefore they were shitting themselves. Like I said, they weren’t relegation fodder at the time and that point is irrelevant.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 21, 2020 0:18:16 GMT 1
But the wingers have to have good games also surely? Ive seen one good game between em - diakhaby second half v hull at home. Hull are going down....nuff said. Mbenza scored a one on one after a dreadful luke shaw error....other than a good cross in another game then im struggling to remember a material contribution from him! Diakhaby has had more good games than that for us. He had some good performances in the Premier League and has had more than one good half this season. He was in decent form earlier in the season, not setting the world alight but better than our wingers have been the last month or so and at least looked dangerous. But again just lump him with Mbenza because they're both quick. Ive lumped them together because they both cost us a fortune, both have the same attributes...supposedly and both have done absolutely bugger all. No more no less than that. Nothing sinister in it....i dont think they are footballers of any quality. 3 managers tried here with them...nothing. They have both gone out on loan....nothing. Id like to think that for 25m plus we would have got significantly better but hey ho its all done now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 0:34:23 GMT 1
I was there that day and he played okay, but your original statement made out the Hull defenders were 'shitting themselves' because of Diakhaby's presence. My point is that it's because they were relegation fodder. That alright with you Mrs Diakhaby? Yeah he was running rings around them, therefore they were shitting themselves. Like I said, they weren’t relegation fodder at the time and that point is irrelevant. I think you deffo have a future as a super scout. Base a piss poor player's ability on a single performance in one game against an awful team who happen to have hit a slight run of form.
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Post by Amigo on Jul 21, 2020 0:35:24 GMT 1
Diakhaby has had more good games than that for us. He had some good performances in the Premier League and has had more than one good half this season. He was in decent form earlier in the season, not setting the world alight but better than our wingers have been the last month or so and at least looked dangerous. But again just lump him with Mbenza because they're both quick. Ive lumped them together because they both cost us a fortune, both have the same attributes...supposedly and both have done absolutely bugger all. No more no less than that. Nothing sinister in it....i dont think they are footballers of any quality. 3 managers tried here with them...nothing. They have both gone out on loan....nothing. Id like to think that for 25m plus we would have got significantly better but hey ho its all done now. You don't think Diakhaby played well at Blackburn, Luton, Stoke or QPR or at home to Hull (he played well all game not just the 2nd half)? Mainly away games I'll give you that maybe you didn't go to them, that's not a dig if you didn't by the way I'm not one of those that thinks you can only be a real fan if you go to all away games as well as home games, people go to the games they can. Lamouchi has praised Diakhaby recently as a player from what he's seen in training but has said he has no confidence on a match day. Can't really say anything about Mbenza's loan as by the time he was getting near match fitness their season finished but he's shown very few glimpses here.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 21, 2020 0:41:22 GMT 1
Ive lumped them together because they both cost us a fortune, both have the same attributes...supposedly and both have done absolutely bugger all. No more no less than that. Nothing sinister in it....i dont think they are footballers of any quality. 3 managers tried here with them...nothing. They have both gone out on loan....nothing. Id like to think that for 25m plus we would have got significantly better but hey ho its all done now. You don't think Diakhaby played well at Blackburn, Luton, Stoke or QPR or at home to Hull (he played well all game not just the 2nd half)? Mainly away games I'll give you that maybe you didn't go to them, that's not a dig if you didn't by the way I'm not one of those that thinks you can only be a real fan if you go to all away games as well as home games, people go to the games they can. Lamouchi has praised Diakhaby recently as a player from what he's seen in training but has said he has no confidence on a match day. Can't really say anything about Mbenza's loan as by the time he was getting near match fitness their season finished but he's shown very few glimpses here. Only went to qpr where my only memory of him was a ludicrous dive that i think got him booked. Its no good as a footballer playing ok in training and then being hopeless on a match day. Footballs all about opinions but i just dont see anything of note in either of them. We will just have to disagree.
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Post by ldotm on Jul 21, 2020 0:42:14 GMT 1
Yeah he was running rings around them, therefore they were shitting themselves. Like I said, they weren’t relegation fodder at the time and that point is irrelevant. I think you deffo have a future as a super scout. Base a piss poor player's ability on a single performance in one game against an awful team who happen to have hit a slight run of form. Diakhaby is shit and I want him out like anyone, I was merely stating he had a good performance against Hull. You’ve totally misinterpreted my point and been a twat about it. Clearly not very intelligent when I’ve spelt it out to you on a few posts now and you’re still taking it as I rate Diakhaby. Lay off the crack.
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Post by muffinman on Jul 21, 2020 3:07:27 GMT 1
Mounie, Pritchard, Mbenza, Hadergjonai and Diakhaby are all out of contract after next season. Given the pandemic rocking the football world, these lot will be anxious to get their next contract (undeservedly put Mounie in this bracket but you get the point), so perhaps this is a final attempt to get these guys performing now that our interests are more aligned. As much as I think Cowley did a good job and I disagree with his sacking... I do think that after all the chat about doing a psychological job to lift the squad he threw it all out after Bristol and changed his stance from then on. There's a lot of complaints that it appears Phil went back on agreements with the Cowleys, but I do think it's a bit from both sides. Anyone can come in and bomb players out, I don't think that was in the job description but desperate times need desperate measures. I must have missed this, what's the craic about after the Bristol game?
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 21, 2020 4:49:09 GMT 1
Mounie, Pritchard, Mbenza, Hadergjonai and Diakhaby are all out of contract after next season. Given the pandemic rocking the football world, these lot will be anxious to get their next contract (undeservedly put Mounie in this bracket but you get the point), so perhaps this is a final attempt to get these guys performing now that our interests are more aligned. As much as I think Cowley did a good job and I disagree with his sacking... I do think that after all the chat about doing a psychological job to lift the squad he threw it all out after Bristol and changed his stance from then on. There's a lot of complaints that it appears Phil went back on agreements with the Cowleys, but I do think it's a bit from both sides. Anyone can come in and bomb players out, I don't think that was in the job description but desperate times need desperate measures. I must have missed this, what's the craic about after the Bristol game? After we shipped 5 down at their place his patience seemed to run thin, and decided to banish players who he’d had enough with. Not that I can blame him.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Jul 21, 2020 6:42:30 GMT 1
Diakhaby and MBenza both had good reps before joining us. If the new gaffer can get the best out of them then good luck to him. I’d be satisfied with Diakhaby being able to control the football Let's see how he gets on with a bag of cement first.
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