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Post by wigster on Jul 29, 2020 17:28:08 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season.
Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently.
They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is.
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Post by rastrick32 on Jul 29, 2020 18:07:24 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. Thanks for that, a good news story. Pleased for the lad. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 29, 2020 21:33:28 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2020 21:40:06 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. Some of them thought hes not quite championship standard yet... But as you were |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 29, 2020 21:44:46 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. |
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Post by Amigo on Jul 29, 2020 21:50:23 GMT 1
That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. Why would you bring that up when there's an opportunity to make a negative comment on a positive thread....? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 29, 2020 21:50:46 GMT 1
That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. He hasn't been since the return after lockdown. |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 29, 2020 21:59:41 GMT 1
Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. He hasn't been since the return after lockdown. Now then, let me think, gets fouled but gets up and plays a superb through ball for ESR who scores the goal that kept us in said Championship - against the side now promoted. Yes, he's been crap. |
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Post by ACW on Jul 29, 2020 22:05:13 GMT 1
Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. He hasn't been since the return after lockdown. He was comfortably Championship standard for most of the season before lockdown. He showed enough quality to suggest that his downturn in form since the restart is just that - a downturn in form. All players - particularly younger players - suffer from fluctuations in form. He was monopolising the MOM award at one point earlier in the season. IMO he's easily good enough to play in the Championship. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 29, 2020 22:10:14 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. He looked Championship standard when he played at right back in our win at Charlton. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 29, 2020 22:10:36 GMT 1
From what I've seen of him, he should be in our plans next season. He was solid enough against Lincoln in August, but against Charlton he had an absolute stormer. Very solid, good positionally, fairly quick, and from what we hear a determined character. We have Schindler and Stearman and will need at least one more senior centre-back, assuming Elphick is looking towards coaching, even if REG is up to it. Plus, he looks like he can play at right-back, which is a problem position.
Our problem with youngsters isn't that individually they're not good enough; it's that we're placing too much reliance on them as a unit. We can't throw REG, Daly, Obiero, High into the team at the same time and expect miracles. We should identify one or two for the first team and work on those in the senior setup while sending the others out on loan for six months before reassessing. From what has been seen REG is the closest to first team standard and I do look forward to seeing more of him having heard so many positives while he's been out on loan.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Jul 29, 2020 23:36:01 GMT 1
would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually Schindler, Stearman, Elphick. If it's one thing we're not missing, it's old hands. Thanks for posting the feedback wigster. Nice to know we have some decent talent emerging (REG, Schofield) |
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Post by Amigo on Jul 29, 2020 23:37:01 GMT 1
From what I've seen of him, he should be in our plans next season. He was solid enough against Lincoln in August, but against Charlton he had an absolute stormer. Very solid, good positionally, fairly quick, and from what we hear a determined character. We have Schindler and Stearman and will need at least one more senior centre-back, assuming Elphick is looking towards coaching, even if REG is up to it. Plus, he looks like he can play at right-back, which is a problem position. Our problem with youngsters isn't that individually they're not good enough; it's that we're placing too much reliance on them as a unit. We can't throw REG, Daly, Obiero, High into the team at the same time and expect miracles. We should identify one or two for the first team and work on those in the senior setup while sending the others out on loan for six months before reassessing. From what has been seen REG is the closest to first team standard and I do look forward to seeing more of him having heard so many positives while he's been out on loan. High played 14 minutes this season, Obiero 45 minutes, both in an end of season dead rubber. Daly made 4 appearances this season and 2 last season. He played for 59 minutes this season. I think it's a bit dramatic to say we're throwing these youngsters in to the first team expecting miracles when they've played just over 2 games between the 4 of them over an entire season. |
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Post by specialun on Jul 30, 2020 1:05:18 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. I’m keen to make sure we don’t just overload with youngsters some of whom aren’t good enough - agree with that But I think Edmonds-Green is one who has potential. A successful loan at league 2 gives me mire hope than some of these kids who had failed loans in conference / north or equivalent I’ve no doubt he’d have been involved post lockdown if we could have done. Alongside some experience and with good coaching he has potential to make it at championship standard - Cowley managed O’Brien well this season Also keep in mind Edmonds-green is 18 months younger than O’Brien |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 30, 2020 6:51:06 GMT 1
That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. He looked Championship standard when he played at right back in our win at Charlton. Where did I say he wasn't Championship standard overall? Just made reference to him not being so great since the resumption of hostilities, that's all. |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 30, 2020 7:41:47 GMT 1
He looked Championship standard when he played at right back in our win at Charlton. Where did I say he wasn't Championship standard overall? Just made reference to him not being so great since the resumption of hostilities, that's all. Yes would say he definitely dropped off after lockdown although the Wednesday and West Brom games he wasn’t far off the performance levels of the majority of the season |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 30, 2020 7:46:42 GMT 1
That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. I’m keen to make sure we don’t just overload with youngsters some of whom aren’t good enough - agree with that But I think Edmonds-Green is one who has potential. A successful loan at league 2 gives me mire hope than some of these kids who had failed loans in conference / north or equivalent I’ve no doubt he’d have been involved post lockdown if we could have done. Alongside some experience and with good coaching he has potential to make it at championship standard - Cowley managed O’Brien well this season Also keep in mind Edmonds-green is 18 months 12 weeks younger than O’Brien Corrected. DoB from htafc.com |
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Post by iangreaves on Jul 30, 2020 8:18:33 GMT 1
He played in some pre-season friendlies ahead of this season just finished and I thought when I saw him that he looked a very good player.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 8:23:21 GMT 1
Being a bit bored I posted on the Swindon supporters site to ask what they thought of Rarmani E-G, as he seems to be one of the younger players we expect to come through this season. Without exception every reply was complimentary, and most of the posters wanted to sign him permanently. They felt that he was quick, could head, pass and tackle. He never let them down in any match. Some weren't certain he's championship standard yet and would need an old hand to help him but he does look like a prospect who will do well for us eventually, particularly if CC is as good as the club says he is. That's the key, 'not championship standard', we seem have acquired too many of these types of players in the last few years. Not writing the lad off but we could do with better quality. the only way his for a run in the first team before anyone can be judged over whether they are championship standard or not. have watched him and he certainly has a chance but its when as a coach you decide to put him in because the only way you progress his by getting the experience obrian got it in league 1 and his now reaping the benefits and Edmond green as had it at Swindon.im sure he will get his chance to make a claim . |
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Post by dugnet on Jul 30, 2020 8:34:56 GMT 1
On the couple of occasions I have seen REG (that's a nickname - RAMS or REG) he's looked capable. I think what Carlos said is telling - young players will get a chance if they are good enough, which is absolutely fine. I don't get any sense we think we have a bunch of kids who are about to burst into a Championship season and be successful. If some prove their worth then happy days, but I don't see us relying on this as our main pipeline.
I go back to a point I made the other day - only 4 (REG, O'Brien, Schofield and Pyke (now released)) have been on loan in a senior professional league team. That is quite telling. I think Daly would have had he not been injured. That doesn't mean the likes of Harrat, High, Rowe etc aren't up to it but it means they do still have a way to go.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 8:52:58 GMT 1
On the couple of occasions I have seen REG (that's a nickname - RAMS or REG) he's looked capable. I think what Carlos said is telling - young players will get a chance if they are good enough, which is absolutely fine. I don't get any sense we think we have a bunch of kids who are about to burst into a Championship season and be successful. If some prove their worth then happy days, but I don't see us relying on this as our main pipeline. I go back to a point I made the other day - only 4 (REG, O'Brien, Schofield and Pyke (now released)) have been on loan in a senior professional league team. That is quite telling. I think Daly would have had he not been injured. That doesn't mean the likes of Harrat, High, Rowe etc aren't up to it but it means they do still have a way to go. you make a good point and yes we have the best bunch of young players who have a real chance of stepping up but experience in say league one or two would be benefical and that is what I think may happen but the gap to championship is big but if carlos thinks they deserve a chance he wont hesitate to play them believe me you can set a player back by exposing him too soon but we are in a far better place academy wise than we have been for some time |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 30, 2020 9:06:29 GMT 1
He looked Championship standard when he played at right back in our win at Charlton. Where did I say he wasn't Championship standard overall? Just made reference to him not being so great since the resumption of hostilities, that's all. I thought we were talking about Edmonds-Green here, who hasn't played since before the lockdown as the L2 season was curtailed. |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 30, 2020 9:25:51 GMT 1
Where did I say he wasn't Championship standard overall? Just made reference to him not being so great since the resumption of hostilities, that's all. I thought we were talking about Edmonds-Green here, who hasn't played since before the lockdown as the L2 season was curtailed. It’s DATM, we swerved a bit 😉 |
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Post by trex on Jul 30, 2020 9:33:04 GMT 1
He hasn't been since the return after lockdown. Now then, let me think, gets fouled but gets up and plays a superb through ball for ESR who scores the goal that kept us in said Championship - against the side now promoted. Yes, he's been crap. So because he played one good ball that means he hasn't been poor? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 30, 2020 10:53:28 GMT 1
Where did I say he wasn't Championship standard overall? Just made reference to him not being so great since the resumption of hostilities, that's all. I thought we were talking about Edmonds-Green here, who hasn't played since before the lockdown as the L2 season was curtailed. Fook knows. |
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jul 30, 2020 11:34:59 GMT 1
Now then, let me think, gets fouled but gets up and plays a superb through ball for ESR who scores the goal that kept us in said Championship - against the side now promoted. Yes, he's been crap. So because he played one good ball that means he hasn't been poor? Arterrier finds something to have a moan about on almost any subject (no offence meant). The question was whether O'Brien was Championship quality. Given that he has been one of the few positives in an otherwise pretty dire season I would say he has shown he is good enough at this level. The piece of play I mentioned was just to try and balance out arterrier's negative post. The whole team was poorer after we resumed so it feels a bit unfair to single out O'Brien. |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 30, 2020 11:49:08 GMT 1
Iv a mate who’s a Bradford fan and he said Lewis o brien wasn’t quite championship standard. He hasn't been since the return after lockdown. Id say he was the best player before lockdown, Since lockdown hes been Average, but by no means the worst player, So id say he was a good championship midfielder before lockdown and an average one since. But certainly championship standard, with more to come. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 30, 2020 12:18:28 GMT 1
From what I've seen of him, he should be in our plans next season. He was solid enough against Lincoln in August, but against Charlton he had an absolute stormer. Very solid, good positionally, fairly quick, and from what we hear a determined character. We have Schindler and Stearman and will need at least one more senior centre-back, assuming Elphick is looking towards coaching, even if REG is up to it. Plus, he looks like he can play at right-back, which is a problem position. Our problem with youngsters isn't that individually they're not good enough; it's that we're placing too much reliance on them as a unit. We can't throw REG, Daly, Obiero, High into the team at the same time and expect miracles. We should identify one or two for the first team and work on those in the senior setup while sending the others out on loan for six months before reassessing. From what has been seen REG is the closest to first team standard and I do look forward to seeing more of him having heard so many positives while he's been out on loan. High played 14 minutes this season, Obiero 45 minutes, both in an end of season dead rubber. Daly made 4 appearances this season and 2 last season. He played for 59 minutes this season. I think it's a bit dramatic to say we're throwing these youngsters in to the first team expecting miracles when they've played just over 2 games between the 4 of them over an entire season. From the sounds we get from the club, it's not too much of a stretch. I think the aim was to get them minutes before the end of the season to get them used to men's football. My problem would be if we were relying on them to pad out the squad, which I may not have been clear about. Rather than having 25 senior players and a handful of youngsters who may be called on if needed, or if they're good enough, I'd worry if we went down the line of 20 senior players and rely on youngsters to play a substantial amount of time together to fill the gaps being left, without the guidance of more senior players. I had a similar concern ahead of the Millwall match. I do take your point, though! From the limited minutes we've seen them given so far, the worry may be overstated! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2020 12:41:57 GMT 1
I've always thought that the less players who play the majority of games the more chance of success?
A quick look at the championship top 2 and they have 15-16 players who have featured in 50% of league games. A squad of 20-22 plus 'B' team players working with them would seem to be a good model?
From what I've seen REG would be a very useful RB and perhaps CB and may fit in that 20-22 first and back up choices?
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Post by Amigo on Jul 30, 2020 12:53:52 GMT 1
High played 14 minutes this season, Obiero 45 minutes, both in an end of season dead rubber. Daly made 4 appearances this season and 2 last season. He played for 59 minutes this season. I think it's a bit dramatic to say we're throwing these youngsters in to the first team expecting miracles when they've played just over 2 games between the 4 of them over an entire season. From the sounds we get from the club, it's not too much of a stretch. I think the aim was to get them minutes before the end of the season to get them used to men's football. My problem would be if we were relying on them to pad out the squad, which I may not have been clear about. Rather than having 25 senior players and a handful of youngsters who may be called on if needed, or if they're good enough, I'd worry if we went down the line of 20 senior players and rely on youngsters to play a substantial amount of time together to fill the gaps being left, without the guidance of more senior players. I had a similar concern ahead of the Millwall match. I do take your point, though! From the limited minutes we've seen them given so far, the worry may be overstated! In the Millwall game the average age of the side was over 25 with only Rowe and Coleman ("our" only goalkeeper at the time) starting who hadn't been a regular. I think the fact 2 of them only played in a dead rubber which is pretty common anyway and didn't even start plus Daly only appearing very sporadically through the season and then the manager basically saying they'll work with the youngsters and if they're good enough only then they'll get a chance I'm not as concerned as others seem to be that only squad is going to be full of kids next season. |
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