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Post by Camel Grabber on Aug 3, 2020 9:10:51 GMT 1
People who actively take joy in the Giants losing are extremely fucking weird Yeah, because nobody who supports Town lives in Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax or loads of other RL towns, do they? Or maybe they just don't give a fuck about RL, and how Ken screwed over the club means there's no love lost. Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken
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Post by crux on Aug 3, 2020 9:23:56 GMT 1
Yeah, because nobody who supports Town lives in Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax or loads of other RL towns, do they? Or maybe they just don't give a fuck about RL, and how Ken screwed over the club means there's no love lost. Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken Don't start the 'Ken saved us and without him there'd be no club' bullshit. Ken 'saved us' for Ken's own sake and better deals for Town's sake were overlooked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:50:27 GMT 1
Yeah, because nobody who supports Town lives in Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax or loads of other RL towns, do they? Or maybe they just don't give a fuck about RL, and how Ken screwed over the club means there's no love lost. Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken I'm just giving you some reasons why people may not care about the Giants. Here's mine:
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Post by Stavros on Aug 3, 2020 10:01:21 GMT 1
£33k bet on them with Betfair at 1/100 on. Bullshit. No person on this planet would risk £33k for £330. I can assure you that these bets happen often.
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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2020 10:19:51 GMT 1
Yeah, because nobody who supports Town lives in Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax or loads of other RL towns, do they? Or maybe they just don't give a fuck about RL, and how Ken screwed over the club means there's no love lost. Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 10:20:58 GMT 1
What is the reason to hate the team and wish failure on them? The players or fans have never wronged any of you. It’s just fucking daft. Probably didn’t even watch the game or like rugby but when the result comes in they’re jumping for joy at a Leeds victory??? As I said, highly weird. I don't hate the Giants, or anything/anyone to do with them. I don't wish failure on them. I watched the game, and I like rugby, but I didn't jump for joy at their defeat. It was good sporting drama, and I admit it did make me smile at their defeat - but it was also disappointing that it had to be a Leeds team who beat them. If that makes me 'weird' then so be it. Huddersfield isn't my rugby team - it's Dewsbury where I lived for twenty years. I have several mates who have played for them, and I now even work with a former player of theirs. Fartown/Giants are/were the enemy when I used to physically watch them (albeit not as much as them from over the hill, Batley). Ill thought out, all encompassing, comments about people who may have different views to your own ideal is microaggression and not really welcome. It takes all sorts in this world - even you, and me If you support a different Rugby team then fair enough, I’ll concede on that one! My post was mainly directed at people from Huddersfield, who support Town and have no real affinity to another rugby league team or the sport itself but hate Giants. The hate is obviously a biproduct of hating Davy, I just don’t see why there has to be a crossover - it’s not as if he makes any sort of substantial financial gain from them. In fact, he’d definitely be a lot better off if he wasn’t still involved. Thankfully, he is.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 3, 2020 10:25:01 GMT 1
What is the reason to hate the team and wish failure on them? The players or fans have never wronged any of you. It’s just fucking daft. Probably didn’t even watch the game or like rugby but when the result comes in they’re jumping for joy at a Leeds victory??? As I said, highly weird. I, personally, don't know one Fartown fan that doesn't dislike Town, our fans or Dean Hoyle.
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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2020 11:02:37 GMT 1
What is the reason to hate the team and wish failure on them? The players or fans have never wronged any of you. It’s just fucking daft. Probably didn’t even watch the game or like rugby but when the result comes in they’re jumping for joy at a Leeds victory??? As I said, highly weird. I, personally, don't know one Fartown fan that doesn't dislike Town, our fans or Dean Hoyle. From my experience at the time, many of the Giants-only fans (those with no previous emotions for football) were some of the most patriotic, idealised, unswerving people I have ever come across in my life. They seemed to take great umbrage with Town and everyone associated with it. So the disdain certainly wasn't only one way, as it's made out to be. It was like the Giants was a cult, and Ken Davy was the leader, or guru even. Odd. But it takes all kinds I guess.
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Post by wigster on Aug 3, 2020 11:48:44 GMT 1
Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken I would have to agree - I've met Ken Davy - only once - and got the impression that what he did was actually for the good of the club - he certainly talked lovingly of Town matches he'd seen 30 years ago. He's obviously a Giants man but his support for Town seemed totally genuine. From what I've heard about Mr Hoyle he's streets ahead in terms of PR and getting what he wants - I would certainly not liked to have been negotiating against him in any Town deal - recently or a few years ago.
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Post by ACW on Aug 3, 2020 12:45:41 GMT 1
Yeah, because nobody who supports Town lives in Dewsbury, Batley, Halifax or loads of other RL towns, do they? Or maybe they just don't give a fuck about RL, and how Ken screwed over the club means there's no love lost. Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken Here we go...
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Post by impact on Aug 3, 2020 12:46:59 GMT 1
I would have to agree - I've met Ken Davy - only once - and got the impression that what he did was actually for the good of the club - he certainly talked lovingly of Town matches he'd seen 30 years ago. He's obviously a Giants man but his support for Town seemed totally genuine. From what I've heard about Mr Hoyle he's streets ahead in terms of PR and getting what he wants - I would certainly not liked to have been negotiating against him in any Town deal - recently or a few years ago. I seriously do not understand anyone who thinks what he did with transfer of shares was for the best of the club.
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Post by Camel Grabber on Aug 3, 2020 13:29:37 GMT 1
Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken Here we go... Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:31:01 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy Is that your two pennies' worth, or two pounds' worth?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 14:11:32 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy Is that your two pennies' worth, or two pounds' worth? watched the game and the result was not what I saw coming but I saw enough to suggest ther giants will do ok this season as for the people who want giants to fail well its time to move on. yes things should have been andled better but as a sportsman I want both town and giants to do well.
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Post by crux on Aug 3, 2020 14:12:00 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy Ken lied about the Stadium shares and made £2m profit out of them. He valued the 40% share of the stadium at £2 but his 'saving' of Town included Town paying a further £1.5m towards the last stand to be built. Dean's legacy has certainly been tainted recently, but at the end of it all he MIGHT just get back most of the money he LENT to the club. This money will account for less than 50% of the parachute payments the club will receive. It will also leave the club with a much reduced debt.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 3, 2020 14:12:11 GMT 1
‘Davy saved us’ is akin to ‘Kim Jong-un protects his people’.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 3, 2020 14:24:28 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy How come the Davy apologists never mention Town saving the Giants in the early 90's by allowing them to use Leeds Road after they'd been thrown out of Arena 84
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Aug 3, 2020 14:31:07 GMT 1
Bullshit. No person on this planet would risk £33k for £330. Wasn't necessarily the same person who laid it all but bets are laid at 1000-1 ON on betfair Clearly I stand corrected then. Still mental mind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 15:49:52 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy How come the Davy apologists never mention Town saving the Giants in the early 90's by allowing them to use Leeds Road after they'd been thrown out of Arena 84
The MaCAlpine wouldn't have been built if it was just for Town.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 15:50:34 GMT 1
What is the reason to hate the team and wish failure on them? The players or fans have never wronged any of you. It’s just fucking daft. Probably didn’t even watch the game or like rugby but when the result comes in they’re jumping for joy at a Leeds victory??? As I said, highly weird. I, personally, don't know one Fartown fan that doesn't dislike Town, our fans or Dean Hoyle.
Give over.
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Post by impact on Aug 3, 2020 15:51:37 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy There is a massive difference between being in the shit financially and the club not spending as much money as expected. Being in the shit is where we were in 2002. We are nowhere near that position now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 15:55:14 GMT 1
Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken Don't start the 'Ken saved us and without him there'd be no club' bullshit. Ken 'saved us' for Ken's own sake and better deals for Town's sake were overlooked.
Really ? I think not,
Nobody else had the proper finances, Wanting to and actually being able to do so are two totally different things.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 16:07:40 GMT 1
Take it you hate hoyle as much then? If it wasn't for Ken their would be no club today. Hoyle has fucked us over more than ken I'm just giving you some reasons why people may not care about the Giants. Here's mine:
And yet most of the lads I go to both the Footy and Rugby with want to see both Batley and Dewsbury do well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 16:35:50 GMT 1
I'm just giving you some reasons why people may not care about the Giants. Here's mine:
And yet most of the lads I go to both the Footy and Rugby with want to see both Batley and Dewsbury do well.
I once said something similar to a lad who supports Halifax Town - that I looked out for their results, and wanted them to do well. He told me he fucking hates Huddersfield Town. And that's fair enough. Just because a few Giants fans keep an eye out for Batley (like I do for Halifax Town) doesn't mean the favour deserves to be returned. Bloody hell, when Leeds were in the Champions League, a Leeds fan at work once said something similar about Town. You can guess what I told him.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 3, 2020 17:09:07 GMT 1
I, personally, don't know one Fartown fan that doesn't dislike Town, our fans or Dean Hoyle.
Give over.
So you know the same Giants supporters as I do and you think I'm lying then 🤔
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Post by crux on Aug 3, 2020 17:27:59 GMT 1
Don't start the 'Ken saved us and without him there'd be no club' bullshit. Ken 'saved us' for Ken's own sake and better deals for Town's sake were overlooked.
Really ? I think not,
Nobody else had the proper finances, Wanting to and actually being able to do so are two totally different things.
There was at least one other financially viable offer on the table, unless as administrator you're going to tell me you ruled it out? The offer that was accepted was better for the stadium company, but worse for Town.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 17:32:29 GMT 1
Really ? I think not,
Nobody else had the proper finances, Wanting to and actually being able to do so are two totally different things.
There was at least one other financially viable offer on the table, unless as administrator you're going to tell me you ruled it out? The offer that was accepted was better for the stadium company, but worse for Town. True. Davy got the nod as he was experienced at dealing with the council. This is what swung it for him. Terry Fisher soon sussed the bloke out and scarpered. Davy also provided a springboard for the most useless administrator in Rugby League (and that really is saying something!). Ralph Rimmer. A man I wouldn't even trust to look after my goldfish.
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Post by mids on Aug 3, 2020 18:00:16 GMT 1
There was at least one other financially viable offer on the table, unless as administrator you're going to tell me you ruled it out? The offer that was accepted was better for the stadium company, but worse for Town. True. Davy got the nod as he was experienced at dealing with the council. This is what swung it for him. Terry Fisher soon sussed the bloke out and scarpered. Davy also provided a springboard for the most useless administrator in Rugby League (and that really is saying something!). Ralph Rimmer. A man I wouldn't even trust to look after my goldfish. If he asked to look after my goldfish I'd simply say 'See you next Tuesday' and that would be too good for him
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Post by terriertim on Aug 3, 2020 18:43:37 GMT 1
Nowt wrong with being weird as far as the egg chasers are concerned. Minority sport on a par with badminton and horse trials......only watch for a bit of knicker flash and to see some posh twat fall in the water !
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 5, 2020 0:02:47 GMT 1
Well it is true.... Ken saved us, and then let hoyle takeover. Hoyle has now left us in the shit financially. Never understood the hate towards Davy Id say theres a lot you dont understand.
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