Champers
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Post by Champers on Oct 14, 2020 18:34:35 GMT 1
WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING? HAVE WE ALL GONE A BIT MUTTON? In fairness nobody is actually shouting, they're just using capitals. Capitals aren't loud, in any way. Cheers Geoff.
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:06:05 GMT 1
Post by steo1986 on Oct 14, 2020 20:06:05 GMT 1
FULHAM FINALISHING KONGOLO DEAL
Fulham arefinalising a deal to sign defender Terence Kongolo from Huddersfield.
An announcement is expected in the next 24 hours.
from Sky sports transfer center
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:38:27 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 14, 2020 20:38:27 GMT 1
David ornstein reporting Kongolo done deal worth 7m with 4 upfront
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terrier10
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Post by terrier10 on Oct 14, 2020 20:39:04 GMT 1
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Post by nicovaesen on Oct 14, 2020 20:41:50 GMT 1
Right let’s bank roll CC
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:46:16 GMT 1
Post by Town1971 on Oct 14, 2020 20:46:16 GMT 1
So who pays what we owe Monacco
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:51:50 GMT 1
Post by steo1986 on Oct 14, 2020 20:51:50 GMT 1
So who pays what we owe Monacco Town pay! dont know how much tho!
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Dan
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:59:29 GMT 1
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Post by Dan on Oct 14, 2020 20:59:29 GMT 1
So who pays what we owe Monacco Town pay! dont know how much tho! He signed on a 4 year deal in June 2018. I'd imagine we'd only have one installment left to pay Monaco, assuming we paid them in June 2018, 2019 and 2020.
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 20:59:51 GMT 1
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 14, 2020 20:59:51 GMT 1
What does that mean exactly? Could Town potentially earn up to £11m, or as little as £4m guaranteed, with £3m based on other factors (I’m guessing Fulham avoiding relegation, X number of appearances etc)? Maynardblue inferred north of £8m a few days ago.
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 21:00:37 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Oct 14, 2020 21:00:37 GMT 1
10 from grant, 7 from kongolo, 18m from billing, 8 from mooy, 3.5 from zanka... Should be some shopping spree come Friday of window numero tres.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 14, 2020 21:03:46 GMT 1
10 from grant, 7 from kongolo, 18m from billing, 8 from mooy, 3.5 from zanka... Should be some shopping spree come Friday of window numero tres. Add in the £10m plus for Mounie, Flo & Sobhi and we should be set for a couple of loans
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 21:07:49 GMT 1
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 14, 2020 21:07:49 GMT 1
Yeah, a couple of loans is about all we can hope for. We wont want the EPL to know we have money as we wont qualify for a hand out
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 21:09:56 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 14, 2020 21:09:56 GMT 1
So who pays what we owe Monacco We don't owe them anything. It was paid off earlier this year
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 21:14:19 GMT 1
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Post by leroy212 on Oct 14, 2020 21:14:19 GMT 1
I heard Fulham were going to pay what was left that we owed Monaco, then pay us a fee on top
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 22:39:19 GMT 1
Post by Town1971 on Oct 14, 2020 22:39:19 GMT 1
So who pays what we owe Monacco We don't owe them anything. It was paid off earlier this year Let's hope that is correct
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 14, 2020 23:24:07 GMT 1
Remember the value of your 'investments' can go down as well as up...
Do footballers have that tattooed on their legs?
Even flash cars don't depreciate that much, that quickly...
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KONGOLO
Oct 14, 2020 23:26:17 GMT 1
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Post by impact on Oct 14, 2020 23:26:17 GMT 1
It might be worth someone asking Maynard whether Town still owe anything to Monaco rather than just assuming we do. Transfer fees are spread over 3 years the majority of the time. So it's highly likely that we'll owe 6m at some point this season. It may be paid now or it may be later in the season. As someone has pointed out the remeiaining fee being payable immediately should have little impact as it will have been due this year anyway.
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hthtafs
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 7:17:59 GMT 1
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Post by hthtafs on Oct 15, 2020 7:17:59 GMT 1
10 from grant, 7 from kongolo, 18m from billing, 8 from mooy, 3.5 from zanka... Should be some shopping spree come Friday of window numero tres. Your figures are wildly optimistic - Brighton made £1m profit on mooy when they sold him for £3m ! Billing was £10m with add ins which haven’t materialised. As regards kongola if we get that money I would be delighted. Realistically I would settle for a free transfer given he costs us £2.5m pa to play in the stiffs.
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 7:22:22 GMT 1
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Post by Skint Terriers on Oct 15, 2020 7:22:22 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money
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Post by alexdire on Oct 15, 2020 7:44:13 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money This comment that keeps appearing doesn't make any sense at all. So if we hadn't sold Kongolo we wouldn't have been able to pay the remaining fee to Monaco? This was already budgeted for and used as an excuse for not having any money. We can't then get the fee in from Fulham and then say well that money has to go to Monaco so we don't have any. We may chose not to spend the excess we have from the budgeted instalment and the Fulham money. That's a different thing to saying after paying Monaco we have no money due to all the transfer fee going to Monaco.
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Post by townmad9 on Oct 15, 2020 7:47:47 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money Says who?
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 8:28:12 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Oct 15, 2020 8:28:12 GMT 1
Phil’s just explained it to me.
We won’t see this money for a while because that’s the way sales work. However we have to pay Monaco now.
If we were to buy a player that has to be paid upfront. So we’re actually worse off now so probably need to sell more players. It’s due to Covid.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Oct 15, 2020 8:28:21 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money This comment that keeps appearing doesn't make any sense at all. So if we hadn't sold Kongolo we wouldn't have been able to pay the remaining fee to Monaco? This was already budgeted for and used as an excuse for not having any money. We can't then get the fee in from Fulham and then say well that money has to go to Monaco so we don't have any. We may chose not to spend the excess we have from the budgeted instalment and the Fulham money. That's a different thing to saying after paying Monaco we have no money due to all the transfer fee going to Monaco. It should be budgeted for but it will be Phil's excuse
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Post by alexdire on Oct 15, 2020 8:33:19 GMT 1
Phil’s just explained it to me. We won’t see this money for a while because that’s the way sales work. However we have to pay Monaco now. If we were to buy a player that has to be paid upfront. So we’re actually worse off now so probably need to sell more players. It’s due to Covid. You've missed that we have to pay tax on the difference between the purchase and sale price
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Post by detox on Oct 15, 2020 8:41:21 GMT 1
Phil’s just explained it to me. We won’t see this money for a while because that’s the way sales work. However we have to pay Monaco now. If we were to buy a player that has to be paid upfront. So we’re actually worse off now so probably need to sell more players. It’s due to Covid. You've missed that we have to pay tax on the difference between the purchase and sale price and don't forget the FX rate has nose dived so we probably owe £15m now...unless we bought euros forward using the parachute money we bought forward by borrowing from a Bank....unless that went to Dean, of course... Simple really !!
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 9:44:54 GMT 1
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Post by townrwe on Oct 15, 2020 9:44:54 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money That's was already accounted for in where the 200 million had disappeared to. Therefor the money may go directly to Monaco, but 7-8 million currently in the clubs bank account can now be used to fund phils new boat, expand deanos bank balance, create a better canalside, pay the tax man or God forbid buy some fucking players.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 15, 2020 9:48:33 GMT 1
jesus, give it a rest eh?
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arry11
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Post by arry11 on Oct 15, 2020 11:19:33 GMT 1
We still owe Monaco about 7-8m for Kongolo so we aren't going to see any of that money That's was already accounted for in where the 200 million had disappeared to. Therefor the money may go directly to Monaco, but 7-8 million currently in the clubs bank account can now be used to fund phils new boat, expand deanos bank balance, create a better canalside, pay the tax man or God forbid buy some fucking players. The club release a balance sheet if anything was sus i'm pretty sure that someone would pick up on it and lead an enquiry until that happens you should shut up
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 11:30:04 GMT 1
Post by townrwe on Oct 15, 2020 11:30:04 GMT 1
That's was already accounted for in where the 200 million had disappeared to. Therefor the money may go directly to Monaco, but 7-8 million currently in the clubs bank account can now be used to fund phils new boat, expand deanos bank balance, create a better canalside, pay the tax man or God forbid buy some fucking players. The club release a balance sheet if anything was sus i'm pretty sure that someone would pick up on it and lead an enquiry until that happens you should shut up Nothing suspicious, All transfer fees have been future accounted for, so incoming transfer fees are on the whole available to the chairman to do as he pleases, If he wants to buy a boat, thats his prerogative. The point is that any excuse given this time has now run out, tax, staged payments, etc etc. The money is coming directly into the cash flow of the club, So it will be used by the club/chairman to either improve the playing staff, pay off deano, facilities or buy a boat. If your in business then its pretty common knowledge that you can make a balance sheet/accounts look good or look bad depending on the requirements of the business at the time....
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arry11
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KONGOLO
Oct 15, 2020 11:42:03 GMT 1
Post by arry11 on Oct 15, 2020 11:42:03 GMT 1
The club release a balance sheet if anything was sus i'm pretty sure that someone would pick up on it and lead an enquiry until that happens you should shut up Nothing suspicious, All transfer fees have been future accounted for, so incoming transfer fees are on the whole available to the chairman to do as he pleases, If he wants to buy a boat, thats his prerogative. The point is that any excuse given this time has now run out, tax, staged payments, etc etc. The money is coming directly into the cash flow of the club, So it will be used by the club/chairman to either improve the playing staff, pay off deano, facilities or buy a boat. If your in business then its pretty common knowledge that you can make a balance sheet/accounts look good or look bad depending on the requirements of the business at the time.... Shut up you clown the guy would be drummed out and hung drawn and quartered by everyone if he was taking the club for a ride
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