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Post by Porrohman on Oct 12, 2020 6:11:20 GMT 1
Tbf if he doesn't attain either he'd still be our best player Did you see him in "action" at them away games last season? (was it Bristol and Preston?) No I didn't, did you ?. But 2 bad games seem negate all the good ones. I've seen Schindler have far more bad games than Kongolo.
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Post by townrwe on Oct 12, 2020 6:53:26 GMT 1
Kongolo is our best player. If he's
1. Fit 2. Motivated 3. Happy at the club
We have a hell of a championship player, he's premier league, international class.
If he wants to play its a massive win, but we have far too many CBs at the club, surely someone moves on.
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Post by chinaski on Oct 12, 2020 7:33:58 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up.
TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR
Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB
Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW
The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league.
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Post by alexdire on Oct 12, 2020 8:23:48 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. Or 5 2 3 like the first season of Jackson / Yorath in 97/98. Although I wouldn't play Hogg.
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 12, 2020 8:57:05 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. Schindler has always played on the left side for us, and as much as we love him, he's not been as good as Stearman this season IMO. Aside from that backpass against Norwich, his only shortcoming has been his lack of pace, which would definitely be compensated for by Kongolo and Sarr. O'Brien and Eiting together would be a good partnership. Mbenza for Koroma as well for me. I'd prefer a 3-4-2-1 with 2 inside forwards, looking at the players we have and the shape we played against Rovrum. Something like Hamer Stearman Sarr TK Pipa Eiting O'Brien Toffolo Mbenza Pritchard Campbell ...is probably the best of both worlds- Pritchard did well when played in a more advanced role, and it allows Kongolo to get forward without affecting the shape too badly. It would also give more flexibility in terms of options on the bench. Hogg to come on if we need to defend in midfield, Bacuna if we need a super sub, Koroma/Diakhaby could fill in any of the front 3 positions based on CC's comments. Although this is just me pretending I'm Pep Guardiola in my head to pass time before work. I'd still rather TK went.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Oct 12, 2020 9:06:11 GMT 1
How about Kongolo gets himself back into the side, plays like we all know that he can, impresses other teams and they then want him rather than us wanting to sell him. We might get a better price and he will probably get a better club. Just a thought.
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Oct 12, 2020 9:41:37 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. Add Grant in and that's a superb team.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 12, 2020 10:11:52 GMT 1
To say that is a superb team is way over the top. Where is the creativity, pace and the goals coming from?
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Post by arry11 on Oct 12, 2020 10:13:42 GMT 1
For me we have question marks we have not seen enough of Sarr and Eiting Hogg is now 32 and game time needs managing if we get everyone fit i would think Kongolo would fit in as a the guy who could play central in a back 3 with the option of him moving into the Hogg role as and when the game allows us too play.
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 12, 2020 10:14:32 GMT 1
You also fail to include a keeper. A good keeper earns you roughly 12 points a season. We dont have that. That team would be bang average at best
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 12, 2020 10:30:00 GMT 1
You also fail to include a keeper. A good keeper earns you roughly 12 points a season. We dont have that. That team would be bang average at best Hamer has already earned 3 points for us thanks to his saves against Forest
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Oct 12, 2020 10:39:43 GMT 1
It was 1 good save the other was just a bad miss
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Oct 12, 2020 11:01:22 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. As much as I rate Kongolo, why would Carlos change his entire formation and play style to shoehorn in an extra defender, just because he can't get a move away?
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Post by upthetown on Oct 12, 2020 11:14:01 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. As much as I rate Kongolo, why would Carlos change his entire formation and play style to shoehorn in an extra defender, just because he can't get a move away? Kongolo was awesome from January that first season in the premier league. Sarr looked great the other day - so I wouldn’t be rushing to replace him and I would not be changing formation to accommodate him. I certainly wouldn’t have him left back either. I also believe we owe another chunk to Monaco if he plays a few more games.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 12, 2020 11:22:50 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. As much as I rate Kongolo, why would Carlos change his entire formation and play style to shoehorn in an extra defender, just because he can't get a move away? Its not shoehorning its about finding a system that can play together and get the ball up field better and quicker we have too use the best tools in the bag and give the forwards a fighting chance
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Post by H6dds on Oct 12, 2020 12:12:31 GMT 1
If TK gets back to his best I’d like to see us set up similar to England with the following 3-4-3 line up. TK CBL Sarr CBC Schindler CBR Toffolo LWB Hogg CDM O’Brien/Eiting CM Pipa RWB Koroma LW Campbell ST Ward RW The front three apart (why the fuck haven’t we strengthened here yet) you’d struggle to beat that defence & midfield across the whole league. As much as I rate Kongolo, why would Carlos change his entire formation and play style to shoehorn in an extra defender, just because he can't get a move away? I agree, I think in today’s game it’s more about where the players are at certain times and their role in the team than just “ah, we have three good defenders, let’s change to x-x-x formation”. In his system Carlos has a player a, b, c, etc in the team and the player who does position “a” the best gets to play there. He won’t change to a completely different system just cause we have 2 really good players for position “a”. He might convert a good player “a” to a player “b” to fit him into his plans though.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 12, 2020 12:31:12 GMT 1
As much as I rate Kongolo, why would Carlos change his entire formation and play style to shoehorn in an extra defender, just because he can't get a move away? I agree, I think in today’s game it’s more about where the players are at certain times and their role in the team than just “ah, we have three good defenders, let’s change to x-x-x formation”. In his system Carlos has a player a, b, c, etc in the team and the player who does position “a” the best gets to play there. He won’t change to a completely different system just cause we have 2 really good players for position “a”. He might convert a good player “a” to a player “b” to fit him into his plans though. Hogg played in the back 3 against Rotherham so the system would not change
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Post by boooothy on Oct 12, 2020 12:35:33 GMT 1
With 5 at the back you don’t have to play any of our shite wingers. I’m sold 👍🏾
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Post by arry11 on Oct 12, 2020 12:56:04 GMT 1
With 5 at the back you don’t have to play any of our shite wingers. I’m sold 👍🏾 If we are playing wing backs out an out wingers are not needed in old money we need an inside right and left who get in the box more and chip in with goals
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 12, 2020 13:48:28 GMT 1
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 12, 2020 15:08:55 GMT 1
Seems to have some weight behind this rumour. If it is back on because Town have convinced him to train and smile a bit then that is genius work.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 12, 2020 16:47:46 GMT 1
Hope Kongolo goes to Fulham. Something needs to happen to help unblock the logjam.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 12, 2020 16:49:15 GMT 1
Well the idea of Kongolo playing again was fun whilst it lasted.
On a serious note it's probably for the best and is a big big wage off the books.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 12, 2020 17:15:19 GMT 1
Hopefully Sheff Utd now shit their pants and a bidding war commences
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 17:56:53 GMT 1
Hope Kongolo goes to Fulham. Something needs to happen to help unblock the logjam. I doubt Kongolo going will change much apart from a big sigh of relief from the board that a sizeable wage is off the books. In terms of spending on the squad only the sale of Grant is likely, if that, to see any money re-invested in permanent dealings.
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Post by upthetown on Oct 12, 2020 19:13:29 GMT 1
Hopefully Sheff Utd now shit their pants and a bidding war commences Wishful thinking but I was hoping for a McBurnie or a Cavaleiro or a Knockhaert throwing in
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 12, 2020 19:23:06 GMT 1
Hope Kongolo goes to Fulham. Something needs to happen to help unblock the logjam. I doubt Kongolo going will change much apart from a big sigh of relief from the board that a sizeable wage is off the books. In terms of spending on the squad only the sale of Grant is likely, if that, to see any money re-invested in permanent dealings. Why? Have you fallen in to the trap of thinking that we will receive £8 million and have to give that straight to Monaco thus leaving us with nothing? That may well be the case but in such a scenario, where has the original 'Premier League' money gone if the deal was structured in such a way. Phil said last summer that it was all spent, referring to £100 million spent on players in our two seasons up there. In reality, all those deals were structured to be paid over the length of the contract so most of the money should still have been sat in the bank waiting to be dipped in to. If that isn't the case, where the hell has it disappeared to? The £8 million we receive should be going straight back in to the club. Whether they decide to use it to sign players is another thing
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Post by arry11 on Oct 12, 2020 19:35:48 GMT 1
I doubt Kongolo going will change much apart from a big sigh of relief from the board that a sizeable wage is off the books. In terms of spending on the squad only the sale of Grant is likely, if that, to see any money re-invested in permanent dealings. Why? Have you fallen in to the trap of thinking that we will receive £8 million and have to give that straight to Monaco thus leaving us with nothing? That may well be the case but in such a scenario, where has the original 'Premier League' money gone if the deal was structured in such a way. Phil said last summer that it was all spent, referring to £100 million spent on players in our two seasons up there. In reality, all those deals were structured to be paid over the length of the contract so most of the money should still have been sat in the bank waiting to be dipped in to. If that isn't the case, where the hell has it disappeared to? The £8 million we receive should be going straight back in to the club. Whether they decide to use it to sign players is another thing A loss in earnings and paying back some of the parachute payments will have altered our thinking in our finances at a guess
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Post by sykeylad on Oct 12, 2020 19:36:49 GMT 1
I doubt Kongolo going will change much apart from a big sigh of relief from the board that a sizeable wage is off the books. In terms of spending on the squad only the sale of Grant is likely, if that, to see any money re-invested in permanent dealings. Why? Have you fallen in to the trap of thinking that we will receive £8 million and have to give that straight to Monaco thus leaving us with nothing? That may well be the case but in such a scenario, where has the original 'Premier League' money gone if the deal was structured in such a way. Phil said last summer that it was all spent, referring to £100 million spent on players in our two seasons up there. In reality, all those deals were structured to be paid over the length of the contract so most of the money should still have been sat in the bank waiting to be dipped in to. If that isn't the case, where the hell has it disappeared to? The £8 million we receive should be going straight back in to the club. Whether they decide to use it to sign players is another thing Why has nobody asked this question before on datm? What this site has been missing is pertinent questions like this. We need loads of posts on the transfer rumours thread about finances now please. Not really interested in news of who we king buy and sell. Anyone hot a copy of the Accounts?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 19:52:28 GMT 1
Why? Have you fallen in to the trap of thinking that we will receive £8 million and have to give that straight to Monaco thus leaving us with nothing? That may well be the case but in such a scenario, where has the original 'Premier League' money gone if the deal was structured in such a way. Phil said last summer that it was all spent, referring to £100 million spent on players in our two seasons up there. In reality, all those deals were structured to be paid over the length of the contract so most of the money should still have been sat in the bank waiting to be dipped in to. If that isn't the case, where the hell has it disappeared to? The £8 million we receive should be going straight back in to the club. Whether they decide to use it to sign players is another thing Why has nobody asked this question before on datm? What this site has been missing is pertinent questions like this. We need loads of posts on the transfer rumours thread about finances now please. Not really interested in news of who we king buy and sell. Anyone hot a copy of the Accounts? why should the club go in to every detail because whatever they say they will not be believed by some.
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