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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Nov 24, 2020 23:56:56 GMT 1
I thought we were supposed to have a crop of quality youngsters, if so give some of them a chance and drop diakhaby, Campbell and bacuna. I can only think CC is playing shitball with PH by not playing some of them, so he spends some money in January. Would Phillips have been any worse than Campbell tonight or Austerfield any worse than O'Brien or Hogg? Feck knows. If he plays the kid's he won't get the brass to spend. The mind boggles. It's just a big game of Shitball.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Nov 25, 2020 0:00:50 GMT 1
That's it. Last can for me tonight. UTT 🔵🍺⚪🍺🔵
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Post by melbourneterrier on Nov 25, 2020 0:41:32 GMT 1
Can't understand how neither Koroma nor Phillips got on the pitch. Can't understand how Diakhaby keeps getting selected Can't understand how MBenza has gone from being bracketed alongside Diakhaby as rubbish, to now one of our best performers. Can't understand what Rowe and Romoney have to do get on the field.
Take a draw, take a point. Carlos has me divided. I can see some positives, and he has a vision. However, some of his selections have me baffled. How can someone who can turn Mbenza around after his pre-Carlos showings, also be picking the likes of Diakhaby and not getting anything out of Bacuna.
I was hoping we wouldn't sell Bacuna over the last window, now? I wouldn't mind him going. He is, in my opinion, much more frustrating than Diakhaby simply because we know there is a player in Bacuna, he's proven that on his day, with the right application, he can be untouchable.
We need to get some wins in soon!
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 25, 2020 0:42:07 GMT 1
Wycombe....worst team in the Championship in living memory. We are SHITE.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 25, 2020 0:59:04 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Nov 25, 2020 1:12:41 GMT 1
DIAKHABY!!! Fookin superb finish!!!! . . . . . . . . . . . (just fucking with the people struggling with a shit stream) 🤣 you MF! Not that I was watching but that’s fooking hilarious 🤣
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Post by tepidterrier on Nov 25, 2020 1:19:52 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? ah yes the famed 142 matches statistic. try chesterfield or bolton
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 25, 2020 1:46:14 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? ah yes the famed 142 matches statistic. try chesterfield or bolton Wonder if they were as dull as we can be so often? The amount of stopping and desperately trying to play it backwards or sideways is very annoying. Tonight we played lots of passes merely for the sake of it.
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Post by gingerc on Nov 25, 2020 1:51:11 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? ah yes the famed 142 matches statistic. try chesterfield or bolton Sunderland managed a whopping 29 wins out of 160 league games over 4 seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18. Three of those were in the Premier League and the last in the Championship.
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Post by willo on Nov 25, 2020 2:20:18 GMT 1
Limping through to January for us not to sign anyone. Long old season ahead Rolando inbound Is this what it’s come to? Scraping along from one transfer window to the next in the vain hope we might spend a few pennies and bring some quality in? At the very least, we’ve needed a quality GK and striker for months and months and we sign cheapies, freebies and loan players nobody else wants. We seem at present as a club just very happy to make up the numbers in the Championship and absolutely no more, as long as we stay up that’ll do seems to be the attitude.
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Post by BlueValour on Nov 25, 2020 3:53:31 GMT 1
Rolando inbound Is this what it’s come to? Scraping along from one transfer window to the next in the vain hope we might spend a few pennies and bring some quality in? At the very least, we’ve needed a quality GK and striker for months and months and we sign cheapies, freebies and loan players nobody else wants. We seem at present as a club just very happy to make up the numbers in the Championship and absolutely no more, as long as we stay up that’ll do seems to be the attitude. Correct! That is exactly the situation. For reasons that have been recycled endlessly on here, we finished our Premier League adventure with little money, a group of players with low sell-on values and some who are well overpaid, 40% ownership of our stadium and a lease on the training ground. The Club would be well-advised to pump what money it has into the scouting system, rather than into transfer fees, to keep the dream alive that, in some future season, a group of players, manager and results will all again come together in a fortuitous alignment, to give us another crack at the top tier. That's as good as it gets.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 25, 2020 8:57:26 GMT 1
Having a think 12 hours later, I cannot remember football being played like that, even teams in league 2 would at leat try to play it on the floor some of the time. Imagine, Town playing that dirge week in week out, this place would be in uproar. Interesting that the poll regarding results/entertainment should appear this week.
Also, all sorts of shenanigans going on. When their player went down with a shoulder injury, all the Wycombe players went over for coaching... the Town players didn't. Then a few minutes later Schofield sits down on the edge of his 18 yd box to get attention and all the Town players go over for a coaching session. Schofield didn't seem to have an injury... was he told to get some attention so that Corberan could get something across to the players. Then second half, their goalie goes down with an "injury" when play was down the field, just as Town were looking dangerous - taking 2 minutes out of the game. Time for them to regroup?
I was expecting at least 8,9 minutes injury time at the end. The ref must have been desperate to get home.
So pleased for Mbenza who has really found some form. Hogg played well and Stearman seemed to handle Akenfenwa better than Schindler. Ward showed that he can be a danger once he gets up to speed. I despair of Diakhaby... I don't think he has the physical presence for the game over here.
We miss Pipa who has been superb.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 25, 2020 9:38:52 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? ah yes the famed 142 matches statistic. try chesterfield or bolton Give us a heads up pal. How many have we won in 4 years? Cant be more than 45.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Nov 25, 2020 9:54:15 GMT 1
Rolando inbound Is this what it’s come to? Scraping along from one transfer window to the next in the vain hope we might spend a few pennies and bring some quality in? At the very least, we’ve needed a quality GK and striker for months and months and we sign cheapies, freebies and loan players nobody else wants. We seem at present as a club just very happy to make up the numbers in the Championship and absolutely no more, as long as we stay up that’ll do seems to be the attitude. Pippa was a good signing, as was Naby Sarr by the looks of it. Eiting looks like he can play just needs consistency and players to get more on his wavelength, the pass for Mbenza against Stoke was top notch. The keeper was a desperate one given Schofield’s late injury. Ward has, unfortunately, done what many thought and looks like he won’t play 90 minutes any time soon. A couple of attacking options in January and some of the younger lads making the grade could make all difference.
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Post by dm on Nov 25, 2020 10:08:50 GMT 1
The basics are so often missing. Hogg spends most of the game facing the wrong goal, think he he has forgotten you are supposed to pass it forward. Simple schoolboy passes going astray. O'Brien was bloody awful. So often any attack Town could mount breaks down when the ball lands at Hogg cos he bumbles around looking to pass it sidewards or backwards, with the ball going forwards only once every blue moon. So often it takes the momentum out of a potential quick attack (whether we would have done anything with the attack is irrelevant). Its like a decent passing percentage is better than actually doing a pass of any use. Just because he was great for the club previously doesn't mean he is any more. But Hogg wasn't the only one last night and certainly wasn't the worst. I'd have had Campbell off at half time. His goal average at Town is 1 every 9.4 games. That's a centre back's record.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Nov 25, 2020 10:35:27 GMT 1
Thought the defence played well last night including Bacuna. The midfield were very poor, O'brien looks a shadow of the player he was last season. Hogg, after afew good games recently, is back to his usual 5/10 performances, erratic passing, slowing down the play & constantly going backwards. Eiting was always looking to play in the right direction but he usually had very few options ahead of him & struggled to unlock the Wycombe backline. Campbell worked hard but he, as usual, didn't get on the end of anything in the box, I don't recall him even touching the ball in the opposition area? Diakhaby is just shit & Mbenza was comfortably our best player, looked dangerous everytime he got on the ball, put in some great deliveries but the lack of any quality attacking players around him meant they inevitably went to waste.
Overall a very poor showing & a massive improvement is needed on Saturday. Fair play to Wycombe, they have a certain style that seems to be working for them lately & they definitely work hard as a team. It's a point & a clean sheet I suppose.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 25, 2020 10:42:05 GMT 1
ah yes the famed 142 matches statistic. try chesterfield or bolton Give us a heads up pal. How many have we won in 4 years? Cant be more than 45. What's up Oti - someone nicked your loafers, you in a grumpy mood today?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Nov 25, 2020 10:47:27 GMT 1
We need to calm down a little, and be pragmatic. This was a point away from home against a side who have only lost 1 in 6, and in that time have held Watford and Brentford, won away at Brum and beaten the Wendies. They are highly effective at the way they play, stopping other teams from finding rhythm etc. On another day, Sarr doesn't hit the post and scores and then the game opens up. I was disappointed not to see Phillips for the last 25/30 - seemed little risk in bringing him on.
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Post by artysid on Nov 25, 2020 10:52:27 GMT 1
Sloppy passing was our downfall
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Post by crux on Nov 25, 2020 11:03:24 GMT 1
Last season we'd have lost last night. We defended well and limited their best chances to a snap shot that went just wide and Campbell trying to score an own goal.
Considering Diakhaby, Campbell, O’Brien and Bacuna were all well below the required standard and others weren't quite at their best, a 0-0 draw is a very good result.
The second half in particular was bloody awful, but Wycombe used the injury/timeout play straight out of the Cowley's play book just as we were starting to get on top.
Take a point, move on to the next game - and hope Pipa is close to being fit 🤞
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Post by captainblack on Nov 25, 2020 11:20:55 GMT 1
Give us a heads up pal. How many have we won in 4 years? Cant be more than 45. What's up Oti - someone nicked your loafers, you in a grumpy mood today? I think he left them at the mosque
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Post by leedsroadrob on Nov 25, 2020 11:42:49 GMT 1
Take a point and move on. Performances haven’t been great for the last 5 weeks - small squad struggling with 3 games a week imo. I thought the international break would solve that & give us a much needed break but seemingly not But it was inevitable we wouldn’t score enough goals No surprise where we find ourselves Not making a huge deal of this, but there are only 8 teams who've scored more than us (though a few are to play tonight). How many goals do we need to score?
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 25, 2020 11:43:56 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? An oft used line of argument where a viewpoint is held and then only selecting those data that corroborate that position are used. See all the so-called scientific research on Covid and climate change and you will see what I mean. Your figures cover the last 3 seasons. Why did you select the last 3 seasons? To try and add weight to your argument by limiting your sample size that's why! So... I've selected more extensive data to evaluate how successful Town really are in the last few years. Otium - 3 seasons 18% wins (SD +/-4.1). Last 5 seasons 28% wins (SD +/-7.2). Last 10 seasons 33% wins (SD +/-6.27). Last two are a pretty normal percentage of wins for any side - nothing extraordinary in those results. If you take out our pitiful 3 wins in season 18/19 then the wins go up to 36% (SD +/-5.1). The debate is whether you count this season as an outlier and if you could therefore leave it out of any results. You might have a case for doing so.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 25, 2020 11:48:30 GMT 1
Give us a heads up pal. How many have we won in 4 years? Cant be more than 45. What's up Oti - someone nicked your loafers, you in a grumpy mood today? 13 months of illness due to cancer treatment. Hardly sleeping. 11 months of Covid madness without reason. Unable to see my girlfriend 7 months. Unable to go to my home. Unable to go to India for the winter....on top of that i have 6 months to live.....full of the joys of spring
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 25, 2020 11:51:20 GMT 1
26 wins in 142 competitive matches now....surely close to the worst professional record of all time? An oft used line of argument where a viewpoint is held and then only selecting those data that corroborate that position are used. See all the so-called scientific research on Covid and climate change and you will see what I mean. Your figures cover the last 3 seasons. Why did you select the last 3 seasons? To try and add weight to your argument by limiting your sample size that's why! So... I've selected more extensive data to evaluate how successful Town really are in the last few years. Otium - 3 seasons 18% wins (SD +/-4.1). Last 5 seasons 28% wins (SD +/-7.2). Last 10 seasons 33% wins (SD +/-6.27). Last two are a pretty normal percentage of wins for any side - nothing extraordinary in those results. If you take out our pitiful 3 wins in season 18/19 then the wins go up to 36% (SD +/-5.1). The debate is whether you count this season as an outlier and if you could therefore leave it out of any results. You might have a case for doing so. We have 33% wins in the last 10 seasons? I will look at that because its damned impossible.
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Post by wigster on Nov 25, 2020 11:54:46 GMT 1
We need to calm down a little, and be pragmatic. This was a point away from home against a side who have only lost 1 in 6, and in that time have held Watford and Brentford, won away at Brum and beaten the Wendies. They are highly effective at the way they play, stopping other teams from finding rhythm etc. On another day, Sarr doesn't hit the post and scores and then the game opens up. I was disappointed not to see Phillips for the last 25/30 - seemed little risk in bringing him on. I'm sorry BigDaddyG but if you're trying to persuade us that Wycombe were in any way a good side I think you'll struggle, certainly on last night's performance. They were incredibly limited (and at times a bit embarrassing the way they rely on Akimfemwa)BUT as you say last night they were highly effective - why ? They played EXACTLY as we knew they would so you would have thought we might have had some plan to counteract that. If not, some urgency and determination to win. Towards the end it seemed we were happy to get a draw. I don't blame Wycombe at all - a club with little money,few resources, and fewer good players. We, on the other hand,...oh hang on...
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 25, 2020 11:55:07 GMT 1
An oft used line of argument where a viewpoint is held and then only selecting those data that corroborate that position are used. See all the so-called scientific research on Covid and climate change and you will see what I mean. Your figures cover the last 3 seasons. Why did you select the last 3 seasons? To try and add weight to your argument by limiting your sample size that's why! So... I've selected more extensive data to evaluate how successful Town really are in the last few years. Otium - 3 seasons 18% wins (SD +/-4.1). Last 5 seasons 28% wins (SD +/-7.2). Last 10 seasons 33% wins (SD +/-6.27). Last two are a pretty normal percentage of wins for any side - nothing extraordinary in those results. If you take out our pitiful 3 wins in season 18/19 then the wins go up to 36% (SD +/-5.1). The debate is whether you count this season as an outlier and if you could therefore leave it out of any results. You might have a case for doing so. We have 33% wins in the last 10 seasons? I will look at that because its damned impossible. Saved you the trouble. 19/20 - 13 18/19 - 3 17/18 - 9 16/17 - 25 15/16 - 13 14/15 - 13 13/14 - 14 12/13 - 15 11/12 - 21 10/11 - 23
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Nov 25, 2020 12:08:03 GMT 1
We need to calm down a little, and be pragmatic. This was a point away from home against a side who have only lost 1 in 6, and in that time have held Watford and Brentford, won away at Brum and beaten the Wendies. They are highly effective at the way they play, stopping other teams from finding rhythm etc. On another day, Sarr doesn't hit the post and scores and then the game opens up. I was disappointed not to see Phillips for the last 25/30 - seemed little risk in bringing him on. I'm sorry BigDaddyG but if you're trying to persuade us that Wycombe were in any way a good side I think you'll struggle, certainly on last night's performance. They were incredible limited (and at times a bit embarrassing the way they rely on Akimfemwa)BUT as you say last night they were highly effective - why ? They played EXACTLY as we knew they would so you would have thought we might have had some plan to counteract that. If not, some urgency and determination to win. Towards the end it seemed we were happy to get a draw. I don't blame Wycombe at all - a club with little money,few resources, and fewer good players. We, on the other hand,...oh hang on... Didn't say they were good, said they were effective, and recent results bear that out. My point was better sides than us failed to beat them, and sides comparabile to us actually lost against them.
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Post by ram on Nov 25, 2020 12:09:16 GMT 1
I think the only relevant stats. are those from this and last season in the championship Kenny.And they do not look very good.Players required who can deliver CC,s coaching methods.Will we get them,I doubt it with this chairman.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 25, 2020 12:22:27 GMT 1
I think the only relevant stats. are those from this and last season in the championship Kenny.And they do not look very good.Players required who can deliver CC,s coaching methods.Will we get them,I doubt it with this chairman. Stats (this is data really) are only irrelevant when they don't support your argument!
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