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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 13, 2021 9:43:14 GMT 1
Understand the goal keeper already signed is Rob Elliot. Also looking to bring in another keeper during the window Gee I hope he’s the backup keeper. 35 yo with 198 games in total, equivalent of 4.3 championship seasons. Looks like he’s spent his career on the bench. We need a proper number 1 and Schofield should only be fighting for the keeper position on the bench. Elliot or Schofield are not the answer. Whilst Maynard has said that Elliot is not the keeper we've signed, we can't judge a keeper merely on the number of appearances he's made. It depends who he's behind in the pecking order. Steve Harper was widely regarded to be one of the best keepers we've had at Town in recent memeory but he only made a total of 237 league appearances in 20 years. Danny Ward who we had on loan in the promotion season, has only made 14 appearances (none in the league) in 3 years at Leicester, yet he's just signed a new 4 year contract. Whoever we get in should be based on ability and not the number of appearances that they've made previuosly. |
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Post by Big Ern on May 13, 2021 9:58:10 GMT 1
The keeper we have signed is not Rob Elliott 😂😂 |
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 13, 2021 10:25:44 GMT 1
Gee I hope he’s the backup keeper. 35 yo with 198 games in total, equivalent of 4.3 championship seasons. Looks like he’s spent his career on the bench. We need a proper number 1 and Schofield should only be fighting for the keeper position on the bench. Elliot or Schofield are not the answer. Whilst Maynard has said that Elliot is not the keeper we've signed, we can't judge a keeper merely on the number of appearances he's made. It depends who he's behind in the pecking order. Steve Harper was widely regarded to be one of the best keepers we've had at Town in recent memeory but he only made a total of 237 league appearances in 20 years. Danny Ward who we had on loan in the promotion season, has only made 14 appearances (none in the league) in 3 years at Leicester, yet he's just signed a new 4 year contract. Whoever we get in should be based on ability and not the number of appearances that they've made previuosly. Hamer was behind Schmeichel. I hear what you are saying however keepers learn their trade by playing and it’s one of the reasons why keepers play on further than their outfield counterparts. I would suspect that the example you used was an exception. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 10:45:59 GMT 1
Gee I hope he’s the backup keeper. 35 yo with 198 games in total, equivalent of 4.3 championship seasons. Looks like he’s spent his career on the bench. We need a proper number 1 and Schofield should only be fighting for the keeper position on the bench. Elliot or Schofield are not the answer. Whilst Maynard has said that Elliot is not the keeper we've signed, we can't judge a keeper merely on the number of appearances he's made. It depends who he's behind in the pecking order. Steve Harper was widely regarded to be one of the best keepers we've had at Town in recent memeory but he only made a total of 237 league appearances in 20 years. Danny Ward who we had on loan in the promotion season, has only made 14 appearances (none in the league) in 3 years at Leicester, yet he's just signed a new 4 year contract. Whoever we get in should be based on ability and not the number of appearances that they've made previuosly. Regarding Steve Harper from the Newcastle Chronicle: "Steve Harper was Newcastle United's longest serving player, amassing a huge 20 years at the Magpies, despite 12 of them being behind former NUFC keeper Shay Given. The North East veteran was signed by NUFC in 1993 from his local club Seaham Red Star and despite several loan spells he remained a United player. Harper's NUFC contract ended in May 2013. He has gone on to represent Hull City and Sunderland since." He ended up playing over 180 games for Newcastle. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 10:53:08 GMT 1
Whilst Maynard has said that Elliot is not the keeper we've signed, we can't judge a keeper merely on the number of appearances he's made. It depends who he's behind in the pecking order. Steve Harper was widely regarded to be one of the best keepers we've had at Town in recent memeory but he only made a total of 237 league appearances in 20 years. Danny Ward who we had on loan in the promotion season, has only made 14 appearances (none in the league) in 3 years at Leicester, yet he's just signed a new 4 year contract. Whoever we get in should be based on ability and not the number of appearances that they've made previuosly. Regarding Steve Harper from the Newcastle Chronicle: "Steve Harper was Newcastle United's longest serving player, amassing a huge 20 years at the Magpies, despite 12 of them being behind former NUFC keeper Shay Given. The North East veteran was signed by NUFC in 1993 from his local club Seaham Red Star and despite several loan spells he remained a United player. Harper's NUFC contract ended in May 2013. He has gone on to represent Hull City and Sunderland since." He ended up playing over 180 games for Newcastle. He was always second fiddle to Given, though. He once dislodged Given and was first choice (think under Robson) but Given threw a paddy and threatened to walk. Result: Harper back on the bench. I think that says a lot about him. A lot of other keepers wouldn't have put up with that and would have walked to be No.1 somewhere else. The fact he was happy picking up big wages whilst watching from the sideline (and living in his local town, to be fair) isn't the best reflection on him. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 13, 2021 10:58:32 GMT 1
Understand the goal keeper already signed is Rob Elliot. Also looking to bring in another keeper during the window More bollocks Brilliant reporting - wasted here, should apply to join Sky Sports News. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 13, 2021 10:58:38 GMT 1
Regarding Steve Harper from the Newcastle Chronicle: "Steve Harper was Newcastle United's longest serving player, amassing a huge 20 years at the Magpies, despite 12 of them being behind former NUFC keeper Shay Given. The North East veteran was signed by NUFC in 1993 from his local club Seaham Red Star and despite several loan spells he remained a United player. Harper's NUFC contract ended in May 2013. He has gone on to represent Hull City and Sunderland since." He ended up playing over 180 games for Newcastle. He was always second fiddle to Given, though. He once dislodged Given and was first choice (think under Robson) but Given threw a paddy and threatened to walk. Result: Harper back on the bench. I think that says a lot about him. A lot of other keepers wouldn't have put up with that and would have walked to be No.1 somewhere else. The fact he was happy picking up big wages whilst watching from the sideline (and living in his local town, to be fair) isn't the best reflection on him. I disagree. Local chap playing for his hometown club and getting well paid for it. The fact he also played for only us, Hull & Sunderland indicates he did t want to drag his family around in a hunt for ordinal glory. Fair play to him for getting well paid for two decades. |
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Post by Lovechops on May 13, 2021 11:01:46 GMT 1
Understand the goal keeper already signed is Rob Elliot. Also looking to bring in another keeper during the window I think whoever’s giving you the information has got you by the short and curlies 🤣😂🤣😂 |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 11:08:14 GMT 1
He was always second fiddle to Given, though. He once dislodged Given and was first choice (think under Robson) but Given threw a paddy and threatened to walk. Result: Harper back on the bench. I think that says a lot about him. A lot of other keepers wouldn't have put up with that and would have walked to be No.1 somewhere else. The fact he was happy picking up big wages whilst watching from the sideline (and living in his local town, to be fair) isn't the best reflection on him. I disagree. Local chap playing for his hometown club and getting well paid for it. The fact he also played for only us, Hull & Sunderland indicates he did t want to drag his family around in a hunt for ordinal glory. Fair play to him for getting well paid for two decades. That's where you and I differ. Being the reserve keeper can be a great job, if that's what you want. But what kid when he dreams of being a professional thinks "one day, I might be paid a fortune and not even have to get mucky". He was constantly having to make way for Given's ego - even when he was the form player. I couldn't have put up with that. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 13, 2021 11:37:28 GMT 1
I disagree. Local chap playing for his hometown club and getting well paid for it. The fact he also played for only us, Hull & Sunderland indicates he did t want to drag his family around in a hunt for ordinal glory. Fair play to him for getting well paid for two decades. That's where you and I differ. Being the reserve keeper can be a great job, if that's what you want. But what kid when he dreams of being a professional thinks "one day, I might be paid a fortune and not even have to get mucky". He was constantly having to make way for Given's ego - even when he was the form player. I couldn't have put up with that. Maybe, hard to judge from the outside. I guess all players have to offset ambition with lifestyle/other priorities. Back up keeper is certainly a specialist position and clubs seem happy to pay a premium for a quality number 2 to sacrifice their personal dreams to warm a bench. Same goes for Spurs trying to find a striker to play second fiddle to Harry Kane. Many won’t do it but some will see the money and security as an acceptable compromise. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 11:38:08 GMT 1
Understand the goal keeper already signed is Rob Elliot. Also looking to bring in another keeper during the window As the saying goes, if you throw enough shit against a wall eventually something will stick. The problem is your shit isn't even reaching the wall. Time to find yourself a new hobby or a boy/girlfriend. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 11:48:36 GMT 1
That's where you and I differ. Being the reserve keeper can be a great job, if that's what you want. But what kid when he dreams of being a professional thinks "one day, I might be paid a fortune and not even have to get mucky". He was constantly having to make way for Given's ego - even when he was the form player. I couldn't have put up with that. Maybe, hard to judge from the outside. I guess all players have to offset ambition with lifestyle/other priorities. Back up keeper is certainly a specialist position and clubs seem happy to pay a premium for a quality number 2 to sacrifice their personal dreams to warm a bench. Same goes for Spurs trying to find a striker to play second fiddle to Harry Kane. Many won’t do it but some will see the money and security as an acceptable compromise. True. And sometimes you get real lucky. Rob Green went from warming our bench to sitting on benches across Europe with Chelsea! Lovely work if you can get it. |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on May 13, 2021 12:04:34 GMT 1
The keeper we have signed is not Rob Elliott Is it Craig mcgilvary? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 12:04:59 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 12:10:34 GMT 1
The keeper we have signed is not Rob Elliott Is it Craig mcgilvary? Hope so but I doubt it. I read an interview the other day saying he was desperate for Portsmouth to trigger his extension because he wants to stay on the south coast. Doubt he'd be saying that if he's already signed somewhere else. |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on May 13, 2021 12:24:03 GMT 1
Championship free agents
Alex Mowatt
Junior Stanislas
Henrik Dalsgaard
Emiliano Marcondes
Famara Diedhiou
Henry Lansbury
Liam Walsh
James Collins
Britt Assombalonga
Mario Vrancic
Kadeem Harris
Jordan Rhodes
Adam Reach
Andre Ayew
Kiko Femenia
Junior hoilett
If we are setting our sights on the likes of mo eisa we are in massive trouble.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 12:29:53 GMT 1
Championship free agents Alex Mowatt Junior Stanislas Henrik Dalsgaard Emiliano Marcondes Famara Diedhiou Henry Lansbury Liam Walsh James Collins Britt Assombalonga Mario Vrancic Kadeem Harris Jordan Rhodes Adam Reach Andre Ayew Kiko Femenia Junior hoilett If we are setting our sights on the likes of mo eisa we are in massive trouble. I'd take the top 4 on that list but very unlikely to be within our wage budget |
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on May 13, 2021 12:43:21 GMT 1
Maybe, hard to judge from the outside. I guess all players have to offset ambition with lifestyle/other priorities. Back up keeper is certainly a specialist position and clubs seem happy to pay a premium for a quality number 2 to sacrifice their personal dreams to warm a bench. Same goes for Spurs trying to find a striker to play second fiddle to Harry Kane. Many won’t do it but some will see the money and security as an acceptable compromise. True. And sometimes you get real lucky. Rob Green went from warming our bench to sitting on benches across Europe with Chelsea! Lovely work if you can get it. More spells in his arse than between the posts |
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Post by bluestripe on May 13, 2021 12:46:52 GMT 1
The keeper we have signed is not Rob Elliott Ok well who is it then??? That's your first post after registering almost 2 years ago. A bit weird. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 13, 2021 12:49:11 GMT 1
Championship free agents Alex Mowatt Junior Stanislas Henrik Dalsgaard Emiliano Marcondes Famara Diedhiou Henry Lansbury Liam Walsh James Collins Britt Assombalonga Mario Vrancic Kadeem Harris Jordan Rhodes Adam Reach Andre Ayew Kiko Femenia Junior hoilett If we are setting our sights on the likes of mo eisa we are in massive trouble. Alex Mowatt would be a great fit, especially if LOB leaves. Fits the profile of our promotion success being a captain. These are the players we need to move on early as they will get snapped up. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 13, 2021 12:54:55 GMT 1
True. And sometimes you get real lucky. Rob Green went from warming our bench to sitting on benches across Europe with Chelsea! Lovely work if you can get it. More spells in his arse than between the posts Like this lad eh? 🤔 |
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Post by Dan on May 13, 2021 12:57:43 GMT 1
Championship free agents Alex Mowatt Junior Stanislas Henrik Dalsgaard Emiliano Marcondes Famara Diedhiou Henry Lansbury Liam Walsh James Collins Britt Assombalonga Mario Vrancic Kadeem Harris Jordan Rhodes Adam Reach Andre Ayew Kiko Femenia Junior hoilett If we are setting our sights on the likes of mo eisa we are in massive trouble. Alex Mowatt would be a great fit, especially if LOB leaves. Fits the profile of our promotion success being a captain. These are the players we need to move on early as they will get snapped up. Would be lovely, and I wanted us to sign him in January but I would think that ship has now sailed. Just won his third consecutive player of the year award at Barnsley, named in the Championship team of the season, and about to play in the play offs. There's a reason he hasn't signed a new contract at Barnsley yet - he'll be looking higher up. |
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Post by huddersfc on May 13, 2021 13:19:54 GMT 1
The keeper we have signed is not Rob Elliott Can you do this every time terrier1996 posts his waffle please? Or just better yet, ban the sad act. So much for him saying he wouldn't bother posting anymore info. Liar caught in lieing shock. |
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Post by dewsburyborn on May 13, 2021 13:47:37 GMT 1
Robbie Elliott was No.3 keeper at Watford - after Ben Foster (who has been out injured in recent weeks, tho played the final game) and Bachmann
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 13:55:01 GMT 1
Regarding Steve Harper from the Newcastle Chronicle: "Steve Harper was Newcastle United's longest serving player, amassing a huge 20 years at the Magpies, despite 12 of them being behind former NUFC keeper Shay Given. The North East veteran was signed by NUFC in 1993 from his local club Seaham Red Star and despite several loan spells he remained a United player. Harper's NUFC contract ended in May 2013. He has gone on to represent Hull City and Sunderland since." He ended up playing over 180 games for Newcastle. He was always second fiddle to Given, though. He once dislodged Given and was first choice (think under Robson) but Given threw a paddy and threatened to walk. Result: Harper back on the bench. I think that says a lot about him. A lot of other keepers wouldn't have put up with that and would have walked to be No.1 somewhere else. The fact he was happy picking up big wages whilst watching from the sideline (and living in his local town, to be fair) isn't the best reflection on him. I don’t see why that reflects badly. He was pushing for No.1 at Newcastle but Given was consistently good. Eventually he got there and went on to play over 180 games for the club he wanted to be at. Keepers don’t get injured much so most No.2s have to wait for a drop in form and it can be a long wait. I think that just reflects life in that position. |
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Post by 4 pts on May 13, 2021 15:02:29 GMT 1
Maynard normally tells you when you are wrong, he didn't when I said it was Smithies - mystery solved  |
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on May 13, 2021 17:22:25 GMT 1
So as a pre curser my source is 3rd hand so not saying it’s bang on. I’m not ITK but he’s been right about few things to me over the years but also wrong about a few so make of this what you will however I am told that.......
There’s one agent who represents one of our first teamers that is behind the South American links. Apparently we have 4 that have been offered to us. Lazaro, a CB and 2 young 18 year olds all from South America. The deals aren’t bank breaking and Bromby wants them all but Phil is not interested. I’m neither pro or anti Phil so not a loaded post and as I said the source is 3rd hand but hope that’s not true. Apparently the big plan is to get all the back up players in first before the main signings. Seems odd as if they want to sell season tickets you need the fans to be excited but hey ho!
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Post by Teddington Ted on May 13, 2021 17:33:12 GMT 1
So as a pre curser my source is 3rd hand so not saying it’s bang on. I’m not ITK but he’s been right about few things to me over the years but also wrong about a few so make of this what you will however I am told that....... There’s one agent who represents one of our first teamers that is behind the South American links. Apparently we have 4 that have been offered to us. Lazaro, a CB and 2 young 18 year olds all from South America. The deals aren’t bank breaking and Bromby wants them all but Phil is not interested. I’m neither pro or anti Phil so not a loaded post and as I said the source is 3rd hand but hope that’s not true. Apparently the big plan is to get all the back up players in first before the main signings. Seems odd as if they want to sell season tickets you need the fans to be excited but hey ho! I’d like to think this isn’t true. Big Phil knows as much about scouting footballers as I do about running a law firm. If he employs ‘football people’ to run the football side of things he needs to back their judgement implicitly. If he doesn’t trust their judgement he needs to move them on and hire people who’s judgement he does. |
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Post by Kenny irons on May 13, 2021 17:53:01 GMT 1
So as a pre curser my source is 3rd hand so not saying it’s bang on. I’m not ITK but he’s been right about few things to me over the years but also wrong about a few so make of this what you will however I am told that....... There’s one agent who represents one of our first teamers that is behind the South American links. Apparently we have 4 that have been offered to us. Lazaro, a CB and 2 young 18 year olds all from South America. The deals aren’t bank breaking and Bromby wants them all but Phil is not interested. I’m neither pro or anti Phil so not a loaded post and as I said the source is 3rd hand but hope that’s not true. Apparently the big plan is to get all the back up players in first before the main signings. Seems odd as if they want to sell season tickets you need the fans to be excited but hey ho! There is a element of truth to this! The company who work with the South American players are called traffic sports marketing. They are keen to work with us and have offered us 3 or 4 of their clients. However they are losing patience with us and are starting to look elsewhere at other clubs now. I don't know what the hold up is but I assume it's to do with money! |
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Post by Mecha Corte on May 13, 2021 17:55:19 GMT 1
Maynard normally tells you when you are wrong, he didn't when I said it was Smithies - mystery solved Well it would fit the trend of ex players returning, so who knows ? The mention of Craig McGilvary from Pompey is odd, it must be 12 or 18 months ago I saw an article linking Town with him, unless it’s another Kevin Phillips saga. |
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