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Post by Big Ern on May 13, 2021 22:38:58 GMT 1
I think poor old Josh has been working from the 2013 edition judging by our recent acquisitions We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. Wow that is embarrassing
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 22:39:47 GMT 1
We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. Wow that is embarrassing It's tragic
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Post by bigfatmonkey on May 13, 2021 23:01:02 GMT 1
We have Danny Ward from that squad but who else? Can't think of anyone. Holmes hadn't broken through by then, only other one I can think of would maybe be Keogh as I don't know what season we had him but I know he came on loan around September time and played approx four games so was long gone by the time we got promoted. Edit: thinking about it more, there's no way Keogh's loan was as recent as 2011.
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Post by bluestripe on May 13, 2021 23:14:32 GMT 1
We have Danny Ward from that squad but who else? Can't think of anyone. Holmes hadn't broken through by then, only other one I can think of would maybe be Keogh as I don't know what season we had him but I know he came on loan around September time and played approx four games so was long gone by the time we got promoted. Edit: thinking about it more, there's no way Keogh's loan was as recent as 2011. Cardiff have two of the Town 2011/12 squad this season. Three last season.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 13, 2021 23:15:28 GMT 1
We have Danny Ward from that squad but who else? Can't think of anyone. Holmes hadn't broken through by then, only other one I can think of would maybe be Keogh as I don't know what season we had him but I know he came on loan around September time and played approx four games so was long gone by the time we got promoted. Edit: thinking about it more, there's no way Keogh's loan was as recent as 2011. You're correct, I included Hogg but he signed the season after
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2021 6:17:11 GMT 1
Need Maynard to say if the four completed signings, will make fans happy or will they be a meh Rhodes, hunt, Butterfield and Clayton. I'd be happy with Hunt and Butterfield 😀
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 14, 2021 6:34:57 GMT 1
Rhodes, hunt, Butterfield and Clayton. I'd be happy with Hunt and Butterfield 😀 Butterfield playing down here in oz, not on current form.
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Post by Tinpot on May 14, 2021 8:06:04 GMT 1
So as a pre curser my source is 3rd hand so not saying it’s bang on. I’m not ITK but he’s been right about few things to me over the years but also wrong about a few so make of this what you will however I am told that....... There’s one agent who represents one of our first teamers that is behind the South American links. Apparently we have 4 that have been offered to us. Lazaro, a CB and 2 young 18 year olds all from South America. The deals aren’t bank breaking and Bromby wants them all but Phil is not interested. I’m neither pro or anti Phil so not a loaded post and as I said the source is 3rd hand but hope that’s not true. Apparently the big plan is to get all the back up players in first before the main signings. Seems odd as if they want to sell season tickets you need the fans to be excited but hey ho! Why would they prioritise back up or main signings over the other? If they do, as suggested, prioritise back up players doesn't that reduce our chances of getting in first on the players we really want ? Odd statement by whoever said that or plain stupidity. I doubt that backups before first-teamers is the strategy. What I suspect is that the players we've identified as back-up are expected to be the quickest to get over the line. Which, if you think about it makes sense. Those players who have been released by their clubs will be a lot easier to negotiate, simply because you need only negotiate with the (unemployed) player. There's no club playing hardball, and the player wants a job. If a player is still under contract, the club might want to keep them or at least drive a hard bargain and actively drum up interest from other parties. Lots of negotiation with numerous parties and little incentive for the selling club to do a deal early. Similar if it's a PL loan. They'll be driving a hard bargain to get their promising youngster the best move for their development. We got most of our business done early in 2016, but most of them were free agents.
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Post by dezzly on May 14, 2021 8:13:51 GMT 1
Why would they prioritise back up or main signings over the other? If they do, as suggested, prioritise back up players doesn't that reduce our chances of getting in first on the players we really want ? Odd statement by whoever said that or plain stupidity. I doubt that backups before first-teamers is the strategy. What I suspect is that the players we've identified as back-up are expected to be the quickest to get over the line. Which, if you think about it makes sense. Those players who have been released by their clubs will be a lot easier to negotiate, simply because you need only negotiate with the (unemployed) player. There's no club playing hardball, and the player wants a job. If a player is still under contract, the club might want to keep them or at least drive a hard bargain and actively drum up interest from other parties. Lots of negotiation with numerous parties and little incentive for the selling club to do a deal early. Similar if it's a PL loan. They'll be driving a hard bargain to get their promising youngster the best move for their development. We got most of our business done early in 2016, but most of them were free agents. Why would you post something so logical.tut tut
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2021 9:05:26 GMT 1
I'd be happy with Hunt and Butterfield 😀 Butterfield playing down here in oz, not on current form. Yeah, with Mcmanaman and another ex EFL player but I can't remember who.
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 14, 2021 9:30:08 GMT 1
Butterfield playing down here in oz, not on current form. Yeah, with Mcmanaman and another ex EFL player but I can't remember who. Rudy Gestede. Manager got sacked recently. There were big problems at that club, usually a very successful club, and it was obvious the players stopped playing for the manager. They(Melbourne Victory) got wiped in the Melbourne derby(by Melbourne City), Jamie Maclaren scored 5 against them in a 7-0 drubbing. Jamie Maclaren is the sort of player who would do well in a team that creates chances. When Campbell was missing all those chances mid season, all I could think was oh for a poacher like Jamie Maclaren. Deadly around the box. 24 from 21 starts, takes a mean penalty, too good for the A-league. But if we keep Campbell and get Rhodes, he’s probably too similar. Edit: Butterfield & Rudy playing now for the Victory. Lol Mark Milligan who played for Australia said Rudy was the worst striker to ever play for the Victory. Might be some heat in tonight’s game. Kudos to you Porrohman, you watch to much football to know this 😂
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Post by 4 pts on May 14, 2021 9:33:40 GMT 1
I think poor old Josh has been working from the 2013 edition judging by our recent acquisitions We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. I think we have sold or released around 50 players since 2018.
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 14, 2021 10:13:46 GMT 1
We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. I think we have sold or released around 50 players since 2018. I can understand clearing the 20 or so 'premier league players' to get the wages off the books but most of the rest are down to poor recruitment or looking for short term fixes on the cheap rather than building for the future. We're now in a situation where the club are trying to add nearly half a squad in one window.
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Post by townrwe on May 14, 2021 10:54:59 GMT 1
I think we have sold or released around 50 players since 2018. I can understand clearing the 20 or so 'premier league players' to get the wages off the books but most of the rest are down to poor recruitment or looking for short term fixes on the cheap rather than building for the future. We're now in a situation where the club are trying to add nearly half a squad in one window. Is this the infamous 3rd window.... Phil meant 3rd year rather than 3rd window?
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Post by tepidterrier on May 14, 2021 11:11:35 GMT 1
Bristol City just revealed their retained list. We should be all over Diedhiou and Jamie Paterson. Solid and inexpensive squad options at the very least.
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Post by goodbet on May 14, 2021 11:28:39 GMT 1
I can understand clearing the 20 or so 'premier league players' to get the wages off the books but most of the rest are down to poor recruitment or looking for short term fixes on the cheap rather than building for the future. We're now in a situation where the club are trying to add nearly half a squad in one window. Is this the infamous 3rd window.... Phil meant 3rd year rather than 3rd window? How do you know what he meant? He certainly doesn't say what he means! Your reinterpretation of what said may make you feel happy but I think that we have listened to enough words, I an waiting for actions over this summer. You can then try and interpret these how you want, but I hope to try and be more objective.
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Post by merseysideterrier on May 14, 2021 11:28:42 GMT 1
Bristol City just revealed their retained list. We should be all over Diedhiou and Jamie Paterson. Solid and inexpensive squad options at the very least. I think wages would be the issue with Diedhiou, apparently he was on a fair whack at Bristol and likely wouldn't be willing to renegotiate given he's a free agent. We could probably do better for the money.
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Post by 4 pts on May 14, 2021 11:34:17 GMT 1
Bristol City just revealed their retained list. We should be all over Diedhiou and Jamie Paterson. Solid and inexpensive squad options at the very least. I think wages would be the issue with Diedhiou, apparently he was on a fair whack at Bristol and likely wouldn't be willing to renegotiate given he's a free agent. We could probably do better for the money. I think footballers outside the Premier League are going have to re-evaluate what is a fair whack. As you say though, I think we can do better. Strikes me as one those 1 good game in 5 types
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 14, 2021 11:45:43 GMT 1
Bristol City just revealed their retained list. We should be all over Diedhiou and Jamie Paterson. Solid and inexpensive squad options at the very least. I think wages would be the issue with Diedhiou, apparently he was on a fair whack at Bristol and likely wouldn't be willing to renegotiate given he's a free agent. We could probably do better for the money. Diedhiou is off to Middlesbrough apparently. Might free up Assombalonga or Fletcher but like you say I think that's another level of wage for us.
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Post by leytherterrier on May 14, 2021 12:41:23 GMT 1
I see Jack ‘helmet’ Hunt has been released and he ticks all the boxes for recruitment that Bromby loves.
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Post by Porrohman on May 14, 2021 12:42:08 GMT 1
Bristol City just revealed their retained list. We should be all over Diedhiou and Jamie Paterson. Solid and inexpensive squad options at the very least. I'd take Patterson
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Post by alexdire on May 14, 2021 15:55:03 GMT 1
I think wages would be the issue with Diedhiou, apparently he was on a fair whack at Bristol and likely wouldn't be willing to renegotiate given he's a free agent. We could probably do better for the money. Diedhiou is off to Middlesbrough apparently. Might free up Assombalonga or Fletcher but like you say I think that's another level of wage for us. As long as it frees Assombalonga to go along way away from here.
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Post by boooothy on May 14, 2021 16:14:38 GMT 1
I see Jack ‘helmet’ Hunt has been released and he ticks all the boxes for recruitment that Bromby loves. I wouldn’t be against that. Pipa, Toffolo and Hunt would see us covered for full backs, all suiting our early season style.
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Post by midlander on May 14, 2021 19:04:03 GMT 1
I think poor old Josh has been working from the 2013 edition judging by our recent acquisitions We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. Have it on good authority that Harry Bunn is coming back and Tarieq Holmes-Dennis is coming out of retirement. Club reckon he can replace Toffolo.
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Post by bluestripe on May 14, 2021 19:09:19 GMT 1
I see Jack ‘helmet’ Hunt has been released and he ticks all the boxes for recruitment that Bromby loves. I wouldn’t be against that. Pipa, Toffolo and Hunt would see us covered for full backs, all suiting our early season style. Bristol City fans happy to see the back of Hunt, after a quick look on their forum. And to add insult to injury, they are renegotiating a contract for Danny Simpson , who is 1 year slower than he was when I last saw him play.
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Post by bluestripe on May 14, 2021 19:10:41 GMT 1
We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. Have it on good authority that Harry Bunn is coming back and Tarieq Holmes-Dennis is coming out of retirement. Club reckon he can replace Toffolo. Ah god, what a mess, my sides have split.
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Post by midlander on May 14, 2021 19:12:18 GMT 1
Have it on good authority that Harry Bunn is coming back and Tarieq Holmes-Dennis is coming out of retirement. Club reckon he can replace Toffolo. Ah god, what a mess, my sides have split. Ah, but it will increase the quota of 2017 squad players, so all not lost 😉
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Post by Kenny irons on May 14, 2021 21:32:09 GMT 1
1 former player who I would take back would be palace defender Martin Kelly. Can fill in at cb and at Rb.
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Post by keefer on May 15, 2021 1:19:45 GMT 1
We currently have more players from our 2012 promotion squad than our 2017 promotion squad. When Rhodes signs we'll have 3 times as many. It's a joke that all that spirit & togetherness from 4 years ago is gone apart from Hogg. Have it on good authority that Harry Bunn is coming back and Tarieq Holmes-Dennis is coming out of retirement. Club reckon he can replace Toffolo. Is that the best you can come up with, why don't you just give up or try something a bit more positive
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Post by midlander on May 15, 2021 1:26:51 GMT 1
Have it on good authority that Harry Bunn is coming back and Tarieq Holmes-Dennis is coming out of retirement. Club reckon he can replace Toffolo. Is that the best you can come up with, why don't you just give up or try something a bit more positive Always a glass half-full where Town are concerned pal, but thanks for the advice 👍
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