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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Mar 6, 2021 11:24:49 GMT 1
Give the keeper the "eye's" and put the ball the other side.
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Post by boooothy on Mar 6, 2021 11:28:39 GMT 1
I’m not too sure we’d have seen it out even if we had scored the penalty.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 6, 2021 11:54:03 GMT 1
Statistically about 25% of pens are missed. Think we have missed four in a row? Chance of that is 255/1....unless its Town when its about even money. We have been shit at football since i was born barring a few decent runs and the odd season. Crap with corners and dead-balls. We get less pens and miss more than anyone else. We lose to minnows and never have cup runs. We dont buy players who turn in to superstars, we dont produce top players, we have the worst game to win ratio of any football league team over the last 8 years. The times we had some success it was always when the club had a soul and togetherness. Early Clark, Buxton, Jacko, early Wagner. Some balls in the team as well, Kennedy, Bully, Jeppo, Roberts, Jacko and Peter Clarke. What we have now are a load of fannies. Watching Town is like living life with a handicap in a poor family....a complete struggle. Added together i have not watched 1000 minutes this season, i tend to switch on and then wonder what the hell i am doing and off it goes.
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Post by frankslegs on Mar 6, 2021 12:22:29 GMT 1
So we have no accomplished dead ball taker and no penalty taker -we would be ten points higher with both Yea Mbenza is shite at free kicks. I said accomplished dead ball taker- like Matt Richie,Chris Brunt,Chris Marsden,Gary Roberts ,Paul Dalton either foot superb etc etc.I was impressed with what CC got out of Mbenza initially and he has whacked in some good goals but it’s the constant wasting of corners and other dead ball situations that frustrates all on here.Look back at the the live match threads and see how many fans have said of Bacuna and Mbenza,Pritchard,in particular,crap corner you #####It is an endless run of complaint.
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 6, 2021 12:50:48 GMT 1
Better Performance, Disappointing result. The lack of confidence is glaring, 30% more confidence and we'd have walked that. A professional footballer just being able to put a ball between two sticks 18'6" wide from 12 yds and we would have walked it! I'm intrigued, a football goal is 24 foot x 8 foot. Which sport are you thinking of?
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Post by gazramataz on Mar 6, 2021 12:52:22 GMT 1
I’m not too sure we’d have seen it out even if we had scored the penalty. This is the thing, scoring that penalty wasn't a guaranteed win, Cardiff could just as easily have stepped it up for last 10 mins and we may have wilted, another lead given up would have been devastating for morale. Not saying that would have happened but I'm not getting annoyed at how things panned out because who knows what could have happened.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 13:01:14 GMT 1
A professional footballer just being able to put a ball between two sticks 18'6" wide from 12 yds and we would have walked it! I'm intrigued, a football goal is 24 foot x 8 foot. Which sport are you thinking of? For some reason, he's picked the width of American football goals.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 6, 2021 13:24:14 GMT 1
A professional footballer just being able to put a ball between two sticks 18'6" wide from 12 yds and we would have walked it! I'm intrigued, a football goal is 24 foot x 8 foot. Which sport are you thinking of? Correct.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 6, 2021 13:33:30 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal
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Post by ACW on Mar 6, 2021 13:35:39 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal Forwards to "belt it towards the goal". Think I've just spotted a flaw in your plan.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 6, 2021 13:45:52 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal Forwards to "belt it towards the goal". Think I've just spotted a flaw in your plan. Yeah I didn’t think that through!!!
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 6, 2021 13:55:11 GMT 1
Having reflected on last night’s game I’ve got to say I enjoyed that more than any game for a long time. A real blood and guts battling performance, the type of physical game I love watching. It would have been great to have been there and maybe we would have made the difference last night. What a shame Hoggy wasn’t playing, just his type of game.
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Post by drumriggend on Mar 6, 2021 14:09:04 GMT 1
Played well last night..
Battled hard..
Sonogo did well..
Rowe looks promising..
Deserved the victory..
Also would much rather watch the type of football we play under Carlos than the dinosaur ball of mick McCarthy..
The way sky were blowing smoke up his arse anybody would think he was foooookin guardiola..
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 6, 2021 14:18:31 GMT 1
All that matters in towns situation are the points and i think everybody would agree that all three were there for the taking including Cardiff fans.
Today Saturday we again start to look over our shoulders and a good point providing other teams around us drop points
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 6, 2021 14:24:31 GMT 1
A professional footballer just being able to put a ball between two sticks 18'6" wide from 12 yds and we would have walked it! I'm intrigued, a football goal is 24 foot x 8 foot. Which sport are you thinking of? He's probably thinking of those thick wooden posts they used have at Celtic which probably meant they were nearer 18'6"
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 6, 2021 14:49:27 GMT 1
I wasn't expecting anything out of last night's game so to get a point & a clean sheet is a positive. Looking back it's definitely 2 points dropped though with missing a penalty & a few other great opportunities to score.
Thought we looked solid at the back & kept them at arms length, midfield looked well balanced & you can already see the benefits of having Sanogo in the team. His hold up play was good, had a decent touch & he looked good in the air. He's still abit rusty but he looked promising.
If we keep playing like that we should be fine, it should give the lads some confidence for the run-in anyway.
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Post by impact on Mar 6, 2021 15:05:59 GMT 1
We nullified a team who are in great form and should have won the game with the chances we made.
Carlos has found a way to make us battle better, fair play to him. It isn't pretty but it's what we need right now.
My worry is are in the same position as last year of needing to forget the football to scrap and survive.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 6, 2021 15:29:24 GMT 1
Like what many people have said that was miles better, had the better chances to win the game so feel it was a missed opportunity. One thing that slightly concerned me was when Pipa got his nose smacked and Vaulks was carrying on, nobody came to stick up for him apart from the physio. I’d say in a relegation battle the first thing is you stick together and fight for each other. Feel slightly more confident than previous weeks though Bacuna got Slated on here for exactly that. Yes shouldn't have put his glove in flints face but at least he confronted him for a cynical challenge. It wasnt a bad enough challenge to warrant it though. Neither was Pipa being caught by a fingernail on his nose. What Bacuna did was brainless. He was lucky flint didnt roll about on the floor pretending to have been punched because lots of players would have,, and he was also lucky the ref didnt send him off anyway, because again lots would. Such a frustrating player bacuna. Moments of genuine quality in amongst a lot of over-confident sillyness and posing. But hes also got a temper he struggles to control. Its surprising more teams dont target him for little digs and knocks because he is likely to react.
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Post by detox on Mar 6, 2021 15:50:38 GMT 1
Scratching my head after that, where the hell has that physically strong team in blue & white stripes been all season? Sarr was superb, Keogh not far behind, Vallejo rarely gives the ball away, LOB almost back to his best & Yaya showed that a Town striker is allowed, in football law, to win a header. Rowe had another good game but I'd have preferred him to swap sides with Pipa, even for 15 minutes. That being said, I did not feel confident when Yaya stepped up for the pen but at least he put himself forward - total disgrace that we haven't hit the target with 3 pens though. 3 points tonight would have been huge but if we carry on like tonight for the rest of the season, I'd feel a lot more confident in staying up total change of plan at last from Carlos..no more (at least not much) faffing around at the back..I understand why we did it a bit in 1st half because Cardiff had just let Derby have 65% possession and smashed them 4-0, so it was a case of 'come and get it if you think you're hard enough...' soon as they pushed men one we did a quick triangle into the space behind them..worked really well and Cardiff looked befuddled.
Also, when in doubt at the back, welly it..which is what we did rather than say 'here's a 2 yard pass for you Nabby..' where we play ourselves into trouble 95% of the time...that was gone.. We also did a bit more of what we did at Preston with some great channel runs and passes. My only criticism is our need to keep passing when we're in shooting range...we must have had 6 or 7 occassions when I thought 'smack it'...but it was passed out wide or rolled sideways..
That's 5 points from 5 games, and a clean sheet at last, hopefully we have turned the corner and Carlos has at last swallowed his pride and abandoned his principles a bit. As a team we look much happier and enthusiatic playing this way..we've been unlucky a couple of times (Bristol City away and Preston away) where domination hasn't led to anything. A point is a start..Onwards and upwards..3 more games in March then a couple of weeks off..
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 6, 2021 16:27:44 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal You have a penalty day....the first team players take 250 pens in a day. Winner gets a trophy and a bonus....its pretty simple really.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 6, 2021 17:18:14 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal You have a penalty day....the first team players take 250 pens in a day. Winner gets a trophy and a bonus....its pretty simple really. To make that work you need to invite some people in to give you stick as you are taking those penalties
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 6, 2021 17:22:22 GMT 1
You have a penalty day....the first team players take 250 pens in a day. Winner gets a trophy and a bonus....its pretty simple really. To make that work you need to invite some people in to give you stick as you are taking those penalties You can practice taking them as many times as you want, and of course they should practice them. But you can never replicate the pressure of having to take one in a competitive game.
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Post by hypotenuse on Mar 6, 2021 18:09:13 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal Bring back Chris Löwe - that guy could take a mean pen.
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Post by hypotenuse on Mar 6, 2021 18:11:33 GMT 1
To make that work you need to invite some people in to give you stick as you are taking those penalties You can practice taking them as many times as you want, and of course they should practice them. But you can never replicate the pressure of having to take one in a competitive game. I don’t really agree - listen to Lineker and Shearer talk about the practice that did which meant that they could shut out the mouse and (some of) the pressure and just do it automatically. It’s impossible (almost) to repeatedly practice something and not improve at it. I teach maths - the students who do well practice tons and tons of similar questions NOT under exam conditions so that they can do things automatically in an exam and not feel the pressure. The kids who feel the pressure are those who haven’t done enough practice.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 6, 2021 18:57:53 GMT 1
You can practice taking them as many times as you want, and of course they should practice them. But you can never replicate the pressure of having to take one in a competitive game. I don’t really agree - listen to Lineker and Shearer talk about the practice that did which meant that they could shut out the mouse and (some of) the pressure and just do it automatically. It’s impossible (almost) to repeatedly practice something and not improve at it. I teach maths - the students who do well practice tons and tons of similar questions NOT under exam conditions so that they can do things automatically in an exam and not feel the pressure. The kids who feel the pressure are those who haven’t done enough practice. Whilst I don’t disagree about the benefit of practice. Using your example the maths question has a correct answer and if you follow the right techniques you will get the right outcomes. There are more variables to a penalty as even if you hit it perfectly the keeper can vary dramatically in their response.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 6, 2021 20:20:08 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal Can we sub Schindler on on crutches just to take the pen.
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Post by hypotenuse on Mar 6, 2021 20:23:48 GMT 1
Bacuna got Slated on here for exactly that. Yes shouldn't have put his glove in flints face but at least he confronted him for a cynical challenge. It wasnt a bad enough challenge to warrant it though. Neither was Pipa being caught by a fingernail on his nose. What Bacuna did was brainless. He was lucky flint didnt roll about on the floor pretending to have been punched because lots of players would have,, and he was also lucky the ref didnt send him off anyway, because again lots would. Such a frustrating player bacuna. Moments of genuine quality in amongst a lot of over-confident sillyness and posing. But hes also got a temper he struggles to control. Its surprising more teams dont target him for little digs and knocks because he is likely to react. Given Tim Robinson’s performance at the JSS v Charlton in August 2014, it was quite a relief and surprise he handled the situation so maturely.
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Post by rubicon on Mar 6, 2021 21:10:52 GMT 1
I can understand the football shape thing. Just why does every article you read these days assume a football is that American egg shaped shit. 90% of the world know what a football looks like, and 100% know what shape a ball is. I came across this the other day in a supposedly scientific book. Tht Abi Loeb described that rock passing through the solar system the other year as football shaped, meaning American football! Dreadful for a publication that’s worldwide. I am not anti the term soccer, it’s as British as anything else, just anti the term football being assumed to mean American football.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Mar 6, 2021 21:53:46 GMT 1
Given the effect missing penalties can have on a player’s confidence I reckon we should just get our defenders to take them. Leave the forwards at the edge of the box to take advantage of any rebound and just belt it towards the goal Can we sub Schindler on on crutches just to take the pen. Like the American Football kickers? That’s not a bad idea! We have always had the cliche that Germans are good at penalties but under Wagner it was the Germans you could rely on (plus Mooy obviously)
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