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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 25, 2021 9:09:12 GMT 1
Lad has been having a poor time of it. But we should have an experience No. 2 to take the pressure of him. Plus learning how to play goalkeeper in the Championship behind Keogh and Sarr must be like learning how to become a soldier in the middle of the Normandy Landings. No, we should have an experienced No. 1 to take his starting place off him Of course. But we are Budget FC at the moment. We should have picked up Lossl on a free in January.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 25, 2021 9:23:11 GMT 1
I played at Academy level, upto 16yrs, (by no means good enough to be pro), and the issues Schofield has cant be coached. His natural instinct to claim crosses isn't there. Very much like stikers, goalkeepers natural ability can be improved, but its got to be there in the first place Not disagreeing with you because I find it incredible too, but how on earth was he able to make it to National U18 level and win the ‘world cup’ in that age group, being so poor in this fundamental aspect of a goalkeepers game? I can't understand that either - maybe because the game in those age groups and below is more technical and less physical - so more about making saves and less about dealing with high balls into the box or long balls over the top.
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Post by RickDangerous on Apr 25, 2021 9:31:34 GMT 1
The lads just not brave enough. Can only put so much blame at his door though.... he's incredibly busy due to how we defend.
There was a stat the other day about most saves this season from shots inside the six yard box and he's got the most across the top 4 division's, and that will be because he's under alot more pressure than most, and he's not meeting crosses which some of he's probably responsible for, especially in the 6 yard box.. instead he's waiting on his line.
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 25, 2021 9:35:40 GMT 1
Was one of his biggest fans and he has pulled off some amazing saves. However, we all know that his command of his area is woeful and is now beginning to be a real liability. He needs to go on loan next season because there is a very good goalkeeper there. New goalie required in the summer.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 25, 2021 10:05:28 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper.
Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box.
It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature.
Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level.
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Post by belvoirterrier15 on Apr 25, 2021 10:12:31 GMT 1
Whatever League Town are in next season the re build needs to start with ideally two experienced goalkeepers . Schofield is simply not good enough or anywhere near ready for Championship football a fact known and exploited by opposition managers. Having said that, he is not entirely to blame for the team performances and shocking goals against record this year. A full rebuild of the team across the board is needed including as a priority two good centre backs. I’ve also come round to the view that Carlos is not the right man to move the club forward next year though until Town are run in a more professional, enlightened and altruistic way with experienced and ambitious leaders behind the scenes, the club is only going in one direction, a road we have been limping along for three seasons now. Sadly I cannot see this changing without a comprehensive clear out both on and off the field. Is this likely.... I think not as the leadership never seem to learn.Town fans have clearly had enough of this garbage.
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 25, 2021 10:23:12 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper. Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box. It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature. Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level. Unfortunately, as it was for Smithies, it does not matter how he develops, a significant proportion of fans will not be able to let go of their original opinion.
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Post by yoy on Apr 25, 2021 10:24:59 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper. Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box. It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature. Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level. Unfortunately, as it was for Smithies, it does not matter how he develops, a significant proportion of fans will not be able to let go of their original opinion. Smithies had some redeeming features. Schofield won’t make it as a championship keeper.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 25, 2021 10:51:18 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper. Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box. It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature. Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level. I think he just needs better defenders in front of him. The lad has to deal with poor play from the centre backs which does not give him much cover and often plays him into trouble. I think we need a couple of good, not past it, centre backs to make us stronger at the back, take some of the weight off Schofield and help bring on REG & Critchlow. I think we will lose 4 of our 5 senior CBs this summer so we really need to recruit wisely, hopefully past performance is no guarantee of future success, or failure.
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Post by yoy on Apr 25, 2021 10:54:25 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper. Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box. It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature. Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level. I think he just needs better defenders in front of him. The lad has to deal with poor play from the centre backs which does not give him much cover and often plays him into trouble. I think we need a couple of good, not past it, centre backs to make us stronger at the back, take some of the weight off Schofield and help bring on REG & Critchlow. I think we will lose 4 of our 5 senior CBs this summer so we really need to recruit wisely, hopefully past performance is no guarantee of future success, or failure. We either need better central defenders or we need to play more to the strengths of the ones we have. I agree that it puts too much pressure on Schofield. But either way - he still isn’t good enough. Just watch what the opposition have started doing from every corner or wide set piece. He is targeted. That happens for a reason.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 25, 2021 11:07:50 GMT 1
I think he just needs better defenders in front of him. The lad has to deal with poor play from the centre backs which does not give him much cover and often plays him into trouble. I think we need a couple of good, not past it, centre backs to make us stronger at the back, take some of the weight off Schofield and help bring on REG & Critchlow. I think we will lose 4 of our 5 senior CBs this summer so we really need to recruit wisely, hopefully past performance is no guarantee of future success, or failure. We either need better central defenders or we need to play more to the strengths of the ones we have. I agree that it puts too much pressure on Schofield. But either way - he still isn’t good enough. Just watch what the opposition have started doing from every corner or wide set piece. He is targeted. That happens for a reason. A lot of teams do this, they put someone big on the keeper to try and restrict what they can do or intimidate them. The only way to counteract this is with a big strong keeper, but they still get restricted, or bigger players in your side to 'push back' at players trying to block the keeper, Katchunga used to do this. Some teams are very good at set pieces, we are very poor, both when attacking and defending. Lack of height and strength in the team makes us vulnerable to a well placed corner or free kick. It's a bigger problem than just the keeper.
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Post by yoy on Apr 25, 2021 11:14:54 GMT 1
We either need better central defenders or we need to play more to the strengths of the ones we have. I agree that it puts too much pressure on Schofield. But either way - he still isn’t good enough. Just watch what the opposition have started doing from every corner or wide set piece. He is targeted. That happens for a reason. A lot of teams do this, they put someone big on the keeper to try and restrict what they can do or intimidate them. The only way to counteract this is with a big strong keeper, but they still get restricted, or bigger players in your side to 'push back' at players trying to block the keeper, Katchunga used to do this. Some teams are very good at set pieces, we are very poor, both when attacking and defending. Lack of height and strength in the team makes us vulnerable to a well placed corner or free kick. It's a bigger problem than just the keeper. Every single corner gets put right on his head. That’s not what a lot of teams do at all. It is absolutely targeted. Whether there are more problems or not, it doesn’t take away from the point. He is simply not good enough and I don’t think that he will be in the future either.
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Post by ritchie on Apr 25, 2021 11:19:44 GMT 1
I think its confidence and strength that are his biggest issues. Both can be worked on
He's way too young to say "he will never make a championship keeper". He's a young lad in a crap team who is nowhere near ready physically, and it must be tough mentally. I dont think he's unable to catch that ball yesterday, its probably a culmination of the above.
There are very few young keepers that DONT have the errors in their game that he has... the difference is they arent usually thrown in week in week out behind a crap defence in a relegation scrap with nobody better even at the club. Even the supremely confident Dean Henderson flaps at crosses
Sign a good keeper and send him to a side that isnt losing every week lower down the leagues so he can get some confidence and bulk up, it will make a huge difference. If he still has the same issues after that then we can have the discussion
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 11:31:49 GMT 1
We either need better central defenders or we need to play more to the strengths of the ones we have. I agree that it puts too much pressure on Schofield. But either way - he still isn’t good enough. Just watch what the opposition have started doing from every corner or wide set piece. He is targeted. That happens for a reason. A lot of teams do this, they put someone big on the keeper to try and restrict what they can do or intimidate them. The only way to counteract this is with a big strong keeper, but they still get restricted, or bigger players in your side to 'push back' at players trying to block the keeper, Katchunga used to do this. Some teams are very good at set pieces, we are very poor, both when attacking and defending. Lack of height and strength in the team makes us vulnerable to a well placed corner or free kick. It's a bigger problem than just the keeper. I've definitely noticed clubs shooting from 'unlikely to score' positions against us recently, that has to be targeted. However what I find incredible is the decisive opening goal yesterday, where Blackburn *didn't* crowd Schofield, left him in a lot of space, and then floated a corner to him that is at chest height. And we end up conceding? I wonder if Clements would have stood up for him if he was the target of a half time roasting after that ? Its League 2 level proficiency to not catch that under no pressure.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 25, 2021 12:22:31 GMT 1
A lot of teams do this, they put someone big on the keeper to try and restrict what they can do or intimidate them. The only way to counteract this is with a big strong keeper, but they still get restricted, or bigger players in your side to 'push back' at players trying to block the keeper, Katchunga used to do this. Some teams are very good at set pieces, we are very poor, both when attacking and defending. Lack of height and strength in the team makes us vulnerable to a well placed corner or free kick. It's a bigger problem than just the keeper. I've definitely noticed clubs shooting from 'unlikely to score' positions against us recently, that has to be targeted. However what I find incredible is the decisive opening goal yesterday, where Blackburn *didn't* crowd Schofield, left him in a lot of space, and then floated a corner to him that is at chest height. And we end up conceding? I wonder if Clements would have stood up for him if he was the target of a half time roasting after that ? Its League 2 level proficiency to not catch that under no pressure. It was a mistake in a game littered with mistakes. I don’t think anyone’s confidence is high and he is a very young player in a pressured position. As a keeper you get picked up for every mistake, quite often because they are costly, but get very little credit for doing the job well. I think he suffers from that. If that was the only mistake in the game and we had gone on to win 3-1 it would hardly be mentioned.
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Post by yoy on Apr 25, 2021 12:33:55 GMT 1
I've definitely noticed clubs shooting from 'unlikely to score' positions against us recently, that has to be targeted. However what I find incredible is the decisive opening goal yesterday, where Blackburn *didn't* crowd Schofield, left him in a lot of space, and then floated a corner to him that is at chest height. And we end up conceding? I wonder if Clements would have stood up for him if he was the target of a half time roasting after that ? Its League 2 level proficiency to not catch that under no pressure. It was a mistake in a game littered with mistakes. I don’t think anyone’s confidence is high and he is a very young player in a pressured position. As a keeper you get picked up for every mistake, quite often because they are costly, but get very little credit for doing the job well. I think he suffers from that. If that was the only mistake in the game and we had gone on to win 3-1 it would hardly be mentioned. You describe it as if it is an isolated incident. He repeatedly puts us under pressure with his decision making and distribution. He rarely alleviates pressure by catching the ball - leaves his defenders to deal with everything. He’s simply not good enough and isn’t showing any promise that he will be improving anytime soon
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Post by sonny on Apr 25, 2021 12:37:42 GMT 1
Let's also not forget that after Schofield's terrible mistake that club stalwart Bacuna had the opportunity to deny the eventual goalscorer by making an aerial challenge. For the second game in a row. With exactly the same result.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 25, 2021 13:02:14 GMT 1
Let's also not forget that after Schofield's terrible mistake that club stalwart Bacuna had the opportunity to deny the eventual goalscorer by making an aerial challenge. For the second game in a row. With exactly the same result. Club stalwart 😂😂
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 25, 2021 13:11:38 GMT 1
He’s an inconsistent but talented young player
Next season I hope we sign someone like Westwood from sheff weds (out of contract) to give him proper competition and guidance from a senior goalie who didn’t really make his name/mark until his mid 20s
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Post by thomo on Apr 25, 2021 13:15:57 GMT 1
Bet he’s number 1 next season. All the club sees is a youth England international. We’ll keep playing him in the hope he comes good and we can cash in. To hell with the damage it does to our fortunes on the pitch in the meantime.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 25, 2021 13:16:13 GMT 1
He’s an inconsistent but talented young player Next season I hope we sign someone like Westwood from sheff weds (out of contract) to give him proper competition and guidance from a senior goalie who didn’t really make his name/mark until his mid 20s I get what you're saying bit if Westwood or similar came (can't see it happening under Pauper Phil though) they'd be number one. There'd be no competition from Schofield as he's so far off the level of a guy like Westwood. He needs to drop down a league or two, take a teaspoon of cement and harden the fuck up.
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 25, 2021 13:40:42 GMT 1
No, we should have an experienced No. 1 to take his starting place off him Of course. But we are Budget FC at the moment. We should have picked up Lossl on a free in January. Wonder how much he would have wanted? He is the type of player we should have gone all out to get
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 25, 2021 13:52:05 GMT 1
It was a mistake in a game littered with mistakes. I don’t think anyone’s confidence is high and he is a very young player in a pressured position. As a keeper you get picked up for every mistake, quite often because they are costly, but get very little credit for doing the job well. I think he suffers from that. If that was the only mistake in the game and we had gone on to win 3-1 it would hardly be mentioned. You describe it as if it is an isolated incident. He repeatedly puts us under pressure with his decision making and distribution. He rarely alleviates pressure by catching the ball - leaves his defenders to deal with everything. He’s simply not good enough and isn’t showing any promise that he will be improving anytime soon I think you are being harsh on him. He is at the back of a team playing very poorly. He has had games where he has done very well and it hardly gets mentioned. If you think how much pressure he is under as a young keeper in a relegation battle I think it is a difficult time to judge him. We need a restructure and then assess him when he has a team in front of him who help manage the pressure rather than creating it.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 25, 2021 13:59:47 GMT 1
Feel a bit sorry for Ryan think he’s been put into a championship team too early , cost cutting . Think he will make a good keeper just too much too early for me , good luck to the lad keep your head up and keep learning 👍
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 25, 2021 14:10:00 GMT 1
He’s an inconsistent but talented young player Next season I hope we sign someone like Westwood from sheff weds (out of contract) to give him proper competition and guidance from a senior goalie who didn’t really make his name/mark until his mid 20s I get what you're saying bit if Westwood or similar came (can't see it happening under Pauper Phil though) they'd be number one. There'd be no competition from Schofield as he's so far off the level of a guy like Westwood. He needs to drop down a league or two, take a teaspoon of cement and harden the fuck up. If we were keeping him to be a no2 & learn from an experienced no1, Westwood now would be my last choice. He was a very good GK but he's injuredmore often than not these days so Rodders would have to play anyway.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 25, 2021 14:11:34 GMT 1
Feel a bit sorry for Ryan think he’s been put into a championship team too early , cost cutting . Think he will make a good keeper just too much too early for me , good luck to the lad keep your head up and keep learning 👍 I totally agree but this isn't with hindsight, I said at the start of the season we needed a decent GK
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 25, 2021 14:15:35 GMT 1
Should be number 2, clearly not ready but constantly doing things on the cheap this is what you end up with.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 25, 2021 14:17:34 GMT 1
Feel a bit sorry for Ryan think he’s been put into a championship team too early , cost cutting . Think he will make a good keeper just too much too early for me , good luck to the lad keep your head up and keep learning 👍 I totally agree but this isn't with hindsight, I said at the start of the season we needed a decent GK Yeah spot on , PH has put too much on a young keeper who wasn’t ready with the reasoning money, says an awful lot about our club at the moment. The top priority is money and money for who.
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 25, 2021 14:25:56 GMT 1
He’s a typical, academy trained keeper. Technically good, good reflexes and a good shot stopper. However, he lacks the physical and psychological presence to command a defence or control his box. It will come, eventually. He’ll fill out a bit and grow in stature. Throwing him in at the deep end and having his confidence shattered week after week is helping nobody. We desperately need a new no1 whilst he develops at a lower level. Unfortunately, as it was for Smithies, it does not matter how he develops, a significant proportion of fans will not be able to let go of their original opinion. Smithies was light years ahead of Schofield. His only significant fault was an inability to even reach the halfway line with clearances.
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Post by yoy on Apr 25, 2021 14:37:21 GMT 1
You describe it as if it is an isolated incident. He repeatedly puts us under pressure with his decision making and distribution. He rarely alleviates pressure by catching the ball - leaves his defenders to deal with everything. He’s simply not good enough and isn’t showing any promise that he will be improving anytime soon I think you are being harsh on him. He is at the back of a team playing very poorly. He has had games where he has done very well and it hardly gets mentioned. If you think how much pressure he is under as a young keeper in a relegation battle I think it is a difficult time to judge him. We need a restructure and then assess him when he has a team in front of him who help manage the pressure rather than creating it. I really don’t think I am being harsh. He is a big part of how badly the team is doing and he invites as much pressure as either Sarr or Keogh do. And honestly, you say that his better games barely get a mention. My view is that they are entirely over publicised on here. We end up with this myth that he’s a shot stopper - loosely translated as it being the least bad aspect of his game. If he left in the summer, he’d be nowhere near the championship.
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