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Post by boooothy on Apr 7, 2021 0:41:21 GMT 1
The only positive from tonight is that we couldn’t go to the game. The drive home would have been a stinker.
Having said that i knew what he’d do with the team and like to think i’d of seen sense and stayed home.
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Post by huddshroom on Apr 7, 2021 0:44:47 GMT 1
Worst thing about tonight is I’m not mad. I literally don’t care about the result when in previous years I would. Mixture of not going to the games and not really caring since Wagner left.
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Post by willo on Apr 7, 2021 1:22:04 GMT 1
Worst thing about tonight is I’m not mad. I literally don’t care about the result when in previous years I would. Mixture of not going to the games and not really caring since Wagner left. Know where you’re coming from.
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Post by hueypnewton on Apr 7, 2021 2:03:21 GMT 1
I would make them walk home. On their stupid, BLM, bended knees. Hell of a reach to crowbar that point in. Can we blame the result on female referees too?
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Post by Amigo on Apr 7, 2021 2:40:53 GMT 1
Worst thing about tonight is I’m not mad. I literally don’t care about the result when in previous years I would. Mixture of not going to the games and not really caring since Wagner left. To be honest when you get pumped like that there's no point getting mad anyway. I never have. We conceded more than twice as many in this game than we have in the last 5 put together it's best just to forget about it as quickly as possible and move on. It happens sometimes it's how more about you react to it.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 7, 2021 6:05:51 GMT 1
Fair enough. It's hard to keep track of all the hammerings Town have had over the years. 6-1 away at forest under mark robins, it was my daughters 1st away game. Oh yeah you're right, there was a 6-1 at Forest.
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Post by captainblack on Apr 7, 2021 6:22:00 GMT 1
I did not see the result until this morning , disappointing to put it mildly, reading the comments from the forum it seems we were resting certain players and playing others out of position, Its a personal opinion but I loathe games where we try and tinker with the team for various reasons , we seem to annoyingly do this in every cup competition these days. I remember Gerry Murphy as caretaker manager saying, while we were on a decent run of form , Its not rocket science, just put your best players in their best positions, Its something I firmly believe in. I just hope we don't screw things up on Saturday. UTT.
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 7, 2021 6:23:26 GMT 1
I did not see the result until this morning , disappointing to put it mildly, reading the comments from the forum it seems we were resting certain players and playing others out of position, Its a personal opinion but I loathe games where we try and tinker with the team for various reasons , we seem to annoyingly do this in every cup competition these days. I remember Gerry Murphy as caretaker manager saying, while we were on a decent run of form , Its not rocket science, just put your best players in their best positions, Its something I firmly believe in. I just hope we don't screw things up on Saturday. UTT. I read this as if I was Stephen hawking computer
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 7, 2021 6:46:43 GMT 1
I did not see the result until this morning , disappointing to put it mildly, reading the comments from the forum it seems we were resting certain players and playing others out of position, Its a personal opinion but I loathe games where we try and tinker with the team for various reasons , we seem to annoyingly do this in every cup competition these days. I remember Gerry Murphy as caretaker manager saying, while we were on a decent run of form , Its not rocket science, just put your best players in their best positions, Its something I firmly believe in. I just hope we don't screw things up on Saturday. UTT. You managed to avoid all news of last nights debacle until this morning, how?
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Post by captainblack on Apr 7, 2021 6:51:16 GMT 1
I did not see the result until this morning , disappointing to put it mildly, reading the comments from the forum it seems we were resting certain players and playing others out of position, Its a personal opinion but I loathe games where we try and tinker with the team for various reasons , we seem to annoyingly do this in every cup competition these days. I remember Gerry Murphy as caretaker manager saying, while we were on a decent run of form , Its not rocket science, just put your best players in their best positions, Its something I firmly believe in. I just hope we don't screw things up on Saturday. UTT. You managed to avoid all news of last nights debacle until this morning, how? I went to bed early as I was not feeling great, I had a great sleep , but after seeing the result, I seem to be feeling unwell again
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2021 7:20:19 GMT 1
I did not see the result until this morning , disappointing to put it mildly, reading the comments from the forum it seems we were resting certain players and playing others out of position, Its a personal opinion but I loathe games where we try and tinker with the team for various reasons , we seem to annoyingly do this in every cup competition these days. I remember Gerry Murphy as caretaker manager saying, while we were on a decent run of form , Its not rocket science, just put your best players in their best positions, Its something I firmly believe in. I just hope we don't screw things up on Saturday. UTT. You managed to avoid all news of last nights debacle until this morning, how? He was having his vaccination...😉
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Post by detox on Apr 7, 2021 7:24:39 GMT 1
Everybody OK this morning?
Do you think that the club (manager and owner) will now finally accept we have too many lazy players in the squad? We've known about Bacuna and we've known about Ward and Holmes, we also know Duahaney isn't up to it. We lost that game through a combination of slack defenders but mainly lazy midfielders not tracking back. You can't really blame the forwards and you can't blame the keeper either.
I know we'll have to persevere for this season but we simply have to stop adding more mediocre players to the squad.
It worries me that Corberan doesn't seem to see what most of us fans see,and keeps making the same failed choices. Surely he'll know now?
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Post by captainblack on Apr 7, 2021 7:49:04 GMT 1
You managed to avoid all news of last nights debacle until this morning, how? He was having his vaccination...😉 Don't mention the vaccine , I mentioned it once , but I think I got away with It
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Post by detox on Apr 7, 2021 8:21:21 GMT 1
The return of the 'prodigal son'..Danny Ward, a masterstroke in how to bring in talent that will score goals and help us stay up..?
4 starts so far..
0-3 0-5 0-1 0-7
We need more like this...
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Post by nah1 on Apr 7, 2021 8:28:52 GMT 1
The return of the 'prodigal son'..Danny Ward, a masterstroke in how to bring in talent that will score goals and help us stay up..? 4 starts so far.. 0-3 0-5 0-1 0-7 We need more like this... And he’s going to be occupying our treatment room for two more years. What a complete waste of money.
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Post by galphamer74 on Apr 7, 2021 8:29:57 GMT 1
Everybody OK this morning? Do you think that the club (manager and owner) will now finally accept we have too many lazy players in the squad? We've known about Bacuna and we've known about Ward and Holmes, we also know Duahaney isn't up to it. We lost that game through a combination of slack defenders but mainly lazy midfielders not tracking back. You can't really blame the forwards and you can't blame the keeper either. I know we'll have to persevere for this season but we simply have to stop adding more mediocre players to the squad. It worries me that Corberan doesn't seem to see what most of us fans see,and keeps making the same failed choices. Surely he'll know now? The problem is he’s not the manager. There’s a reason his job title is Head Coach. He’s given cheap inferior players and asked to perform miracles with them on a frankly pathetic budget. He’s then left high & dry after results like this having to apologise to the fans because people higher up in the club have pulled the drawbridge up. He’s been failed miserably by a chairman who has failed miserably to live up to any of the promises he made when he ‘bought’ the club.
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Post by detox on Apr 7, 2021 8:31:45 GMT 1
The return of the 'prodigal son'..Danny Ward, a masterstroke in how to bring in talent that will score goals and help us stay up..? 4 starts so far.. 0-3 0-5 0-1 0-7 We need more like this... And he’s going to be occupying our treatment room for two more years. What a complete waste of money. Phil reckons he's picking up bargains from the Pound Shop...now Ward will be another we're lumbered with having just about cleared out all the other dead-legs.. We're not learning are we ? Same old, same old..
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 7, 2021 8:40:36 GMT 1
He was having his vaccination...😉 Don't mention the vaccine , I mentioned it once , but I think I got away with It Don't even suggest an apology. You're being gaslighted, but I'm afraid... it's not against the rules.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 7, 2021 8:48:04 GMT 1
So it really happened then?
Got to say Norwich were excellent & would have beaten any team in the Championship playing like that but we were pathetic & we'd have lost to every Championship team playing like that.
Yes we were missing most of our team either due to injury or resting them but that was embarrassing.
A huge reaction is needed against Rotherham now.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 7, 2021 8:55:09 GMT 1
We were humiliated last night for a number of culminating factors (although every time you think it can't get any worse it does) - they were:
A lack of a shape or set up to allow us to compete in a difficult game - this is Carlos' fault. An appalling mindset - we seemed to have accepted we would be defeated before we kicked off Professional footballers playing like 12 year olds, ball watching, chasing the ball, no organisation, no leaders The result of poor/inadequate recruitment across 4 years An accepting/negative mindset across the club
The reasons that the above has been allowed to happen have been widely debated. But for all we can debate, argue and be frustrated we can do absolutely nothing to change any of this. It is in the hands of people we have no choice but to rely on to improve things. My concern is that those I refer to seem to have adopted a position that fans are largely irrelevant or are a bunch of clueless, moaning ingrates.
At some point someone with influence needs to step back, take a deep breath and have a honest assessment of where the club really is. No one can be happy with the past few years and when things continue to be a struggle at what point does someone say "we need to do something differently"? If we continue as we are we will be back in League 1, and then what will those in charge tell us?
We are entirely reliant on PH and his team now. I would implore him to take that look, identify where things need to change and recognise that the fans don't want to moan and whinge, they want a club to be proud of again. A club like we had 4 years ago.
One thing is absolutely clear - the fans are the stakeholders who aren't responsible for where we are and need to be treated with a little more empathy. Those in charge won't be judged by arguments on message boards and social media, it will be by the number of people who come back through the turnstiles.
I fear I am witnessing another major missed opportunity, and subsequent decline, in the history of our club. I also know I can do absolutely nothing to stop it.
UTT
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Apr 7, 2021 9:05:07 GMT 1
If I got hammered 7-0 for a Sunday team I’d be humiliated never mind if I was getting paid thousands of pounds a week, they should all be fucking ashamed of themselves every last one of them.
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Post by iangreaves on Apr 7, 2021 9:05:48 GMT 1
Everybody OK this morning? Do you think that the club (manager and owner) will now finally accept we have too many lazy players in the squad? We've known about Bacuna and we've known about Ward and Holmes, we also know Duahaney isn't up to it. We lost that game through a combination of slack defenders but mainly lazy midfielders not tracking back. You can't really blame the forwards and you can't blame the keeper either. I know we'll have to persevere for this season but we simply have to stop adding more mediocre players to the squad.
It worries me that Corberan doesn't seem to see what most of us fans see,and keeps making the same failed choices. Surely he'll know now? The recruitment team hasn't changed and will still be there come close season. Isn't it the definition of madness, the same people doing the same thing over and over again?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 7, 2021 9:12:11 GMT 1
I’m guessing Danny Hoyle will have enjoyed last night.
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 7, 2021 9:31:00 GMT 1
I’m guessing Danny Hoyle will have enjoyed last night. He’s got/getting £60 odd million extra inheritance he’s been happy since may 29th 2017 around tea time 🤣
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Apr 7, 2021 10:03:24 GMT 1
On their stupid, BLM, bended knees. Hell of a reach to crowbar that point in. Can we blame the result on female referees too? Will such nonsense go on forever? Misplaced, meaningless, moronic. Now adding in the black power salute...thats nice. Before football matches lets have minutes clap for the NHS, a minutes silence for the WW1 fallen (some played football you know) and a Scottish reel for Bonnie Prince Charlies birthday. Lets all do it before we start work. A communal BLM kneel in Sainsburys at 8am. People become ever more infantile. What about a sea-shanty for the RNLI or a Haka for New Zealand day....on and on the silliness.
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 7, 2021 10:53:20 GMT 1
So it really happened then? Got to say Norwich were excellent & would have beaten any team in the Championship playing like that but we were pathetic & we'd have lost to every Championship team playing like that. Yes we were missing most of our team either due to injury or resting them but that was embarrassing. A huge reaction is needed against Rotherham now. Norwich were excellent. Their movement and passing was superb - but at the same time we gave them far too much respect. Compare last night's performance to Saturday: the goal on Saturday came from a high press, not giving players a moment on the ball and getting a foot in when we could. We didn't do that at all last night - we stood off, gave them space, didn't challenge at all. We picked up a single booking - and that for a dive by theirs. Against a team like Norwich there is always the chance they'll be too good on the night, but you need to make it difficult for them. Had we got stuck in, given our all, and lost 3-0, you'd have to hold hands up and say 'too good'. Last night's thrashing was about attitude and fight far more than the respective quality of the two teams. Quite right that a huge reaction is needed against Rotherham. However, I seriously question the fight and desire of this team. We just don't seem to have that old-school motivation, being more focussed on playing a 'brand' of football rather than instilling a mentality that could underpin it.
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Post by Bilo the Bantam on Apr 7, 2021 11:07:25 GMT 1
I don’t really know how it’s gone so badly wrong since you stayed up in the PL but going from Schindler, Jorgensen, Kongolo to Elphick, Stearman, Keogh in just a couple of years is worrying. Still at least we’re not mid table in the fourth division yet eh? Irrelevant but true.
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Post by terrierpark on Apr 7, 2021 11:24:25 GMT 1
You reap what you sow
Last night not only demonstrated the gulf in class on the pitch but off it too . There couldn't be a bigger difference between how they are run and we have been.
Good luck with the ST sales everyine. The players we would want to see retained will likely be sold and if we do survive it will be another season of struggle and a relegation battle . Were used to it now mind but it doesn't make it right.
The club and the happy clappy rose tinted lot should publish the Huddersfield Town book of excuses. A million and one reasons to be crap.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 7, 2021 11:31:49 GMT 1
So it really happened then? Got to say Norwich were excellent & would have beaten any team in the Championship playing like that but we were pathetic & we'd have lost to every Championship team playing like that. Yes we were missing most of our team either due to injury or resting them but that was embarrassing. A huge reaction is needed against Rotherham now. Norwich were excellent. Their movement and passing was superb - but at the same time we gave them far too much respect. Compare last night's performance to Saturday: the goal on Saturday came from a high press, not giving players a moment on the ball and getting a foot in when we could. We didn't do that at all last night - we stood off, gave them space, didn't challenge at all. We picked up a single booking - and that for a dive by theirs. Against a team like Norwich there is always the chance they'll be too good on the night, but you need to make it difficult for them. Had we got stuck in, given our all, and lost 3-0, you'd have to hold hands up and say 'too good'. Last night's thrashing was about attitude and fight far more than the respective quality of the two teams. Quite right that a huge reaction is needed against Rotherham. However, I seriously question the fight and desire of this team. We just don't seem to have that old-school motivation, being more focussed on playing a 'brand' of football rather than instilling a mentality that could underpin it. Norwich were excellent but we played to their strengths. I saw them struggle against Preston the other day. A carbon copy performance and tactics from Town was required, as you say we could have lost by 2 or 3 and it would at least have felt much better going forward. Like the last few years a tentative step forward followed by a great big slide backwards. I have had a feeling of a lack of care both on and off the pitch, too many nothing transfer windows, too many injuries taking too long to come back, too many nothing games where we produce nothing much and lose without any fuss. Far too many games where we concede 2 or even 3 goals in a very short space of time or just on or after half time. The whole thing smacks of a lack of care and a 'doing just enough' attitude from top to bottom. I said earlier this season that the millwall at home second half was the strangest town performance o have ever seen. We were losing by a goal and at no time tried to get it back, it was very, very odd to watch. Last night was bad team selection, looking to saturday rather than playing last nights game, tactics which suited the best team in the division, that's suicidal and heads went down after the first easy, easy goal conceded. It still wasnt as odd as the millwall second half.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 7, 2021 11:39:26 GMT 1
Worst thing about tonight is I’m not mad. I literally don’t care about the result when in previous years I would. Mixture of not going to the games and not really caring since Wagner left. To be honest when you get pumped like that there's no point getting mad anyway. I never have. We conceded more than twice as many in this game than we have in the last 5 put together it's best just to forget about it as quickly as possible and move on. It happens sometimes it's how more about you react to it. Exactly. Always likely to lose that game even if we'd have actually turned up, so now its about what sort of reaction carlos can get. Weirdly is could actually end up being a positive and be a real kick up the arse to the players, who you would hope are truly embarrassed by what happened. As good as Norwich were, and you have to say they were exceptional,,, we were bloody awful from front to back, from 1st minute to last. The only positive for me was Scott High, who did ok when he came on and Thomas too. He had a go. Other than that what is there to say. It was truly abysmal.
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