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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 24, 2021 10:38:23 GMT 1
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Post by detox on Aug 24, 2021 10:51:44 GMT 1
£2,200 at the moment
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 24, 2021 10:59:40 GMT 1
Yep. Shot up yesterday. Someone's rubbing his hands in anticipation... |
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Post by impact on Aug 25, 2021 1:12:50 GMT 1
"Don't abuse the referee"
I'll just assume no one took any notice of that.
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Post by mids on Aug 25, 2021 7:29:19 GMT 1
When you look at the full description it's clear it's being sold by someone with grammatical and colour issues...but also someone who's getting £110 per page of old paper....wow
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Post by orinoco on Aug 25, 2021 9:21:11 GMT 1
Bit steep £8.95 for postage, the seller is based in hudds. I would want to collect it if won it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 10:36:58 GMT 1
Thought this thread was going to be about Bacuna! However, maybe you know the answer to something that has puzzled me...I always thought Rangers are/were called Glasgow Rangers, but apparently not, they are officially Rangers FC, and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. I've seen programmes and stuff from the 50's that refer to 'Rangers FC'. But clearly this 20's programme is labelled Glasgow Rangers. Was that a one-off because they were playing in England to avoid confusion with QPR or a mis-labelling by the English who printed this or something, or, were they actually called Glasgow Rangers? There is a reference to Glasgow Rangers here - but is it just a friendly reference...all the tables and stuff and official reference seem to say just Rangers? www.scottishsporthistory.com/uploads/3/3/6/0/3360867/scottish_football_league_story_1930.pdf |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 25, 2021 17:59:32 GMT 1
Thought this thread was going to be about Bacuna! However, maybe you know the answer to something that has puzzled me...I always thought Rangers are/were called Glasgow Rangers, but apparently not, they are officially Rangers FC, and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. I've seen programmes and stuff from the 50's that refer to 'Rangers FC'. But clearly this 20's programme is labelled Glasgow Rangers. Was that a one-off because they were playing in England to avoid confusion with QPR or a mis-labelling by the English who printed this or something, or, were they actually called Glasgow Rangers? There is a reference to Glasgow Rangers here - but is it just a friendly reference...all the tables and stuff and official reference seem to say just Rangers? www.scottishsporthistory.com/uploads/3/3/6/0/3360867/scottish_football_league_story_1930.pdfLots of older football cards refer to them as Glasgow Rangers. I suppose it's in the same way as a lot of old footy cards also referenced Notts. Forest all the time. Here are a few examples, although you might have to look hard to find the Rangers players! 1920 (Alan Morton, bottom left) 1928/29 1925 1922/23
So you see, no matter what they might have been officially called, they were generally referred to as Glasgow Rangers by the football fraternity and public at large. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 21:39:14 GMT 1
Thought this thread was going to be about Bacuna! However, maybe you know the answer to something that has puzzled me...I always thought Rangers are/were called Glasgow Rangers, but apparently not, they are officially Rangers FC, and ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. I've seen programmes and stuff from the 50's that refer to 'Rangers FC'. But clearly this 20's programme is labelled Glasgow Rangers. Was that a one-off because they were playing in England to avoid confusion with QPR or a mis-labelling by the English who printed this or something, or, were they actually called Glasgow Rangers? There is a reference to Glasgow Rangers here - but is it just a friendly reference...all the tables and stuff and official reference seem to say just Rangers? www.scottishsporthistory.com/uploads/3/3/6/0/3360867/scottish_football_league_story_1930.pdfLots of older football cards refer to them as Glasgow Rangers. I suppose it's in the same way as a lot of old footy cards also referenced Notts. Forest all the time. Here are a few examples, although you might have to look hard to find the Rangers players! 1920 (Alan Morton, bottom left)1928/2919251922/23
So you see, no matter what they might have been officially called, they were generally referred to as Glasgow Rangers by the football fraternity and public at large. All of those items (Boys Magazine, Stars, and the Famous Forwards obviously includes English based players), are British/English productions, rather than specifically Scottish made for a Scottish audience. I wonder if thats where the 'error' (as such) is made. Is there any actual official Scottish thing made for a Scottish audience anywhere that has ever presented them as 'Glasgow Rangers'? Such as - a HOME programme? All very intriguing. I'm not massively into football history, but little local history tales do generally intrigue me. Love spending a couple of hours searching historic maps and looking at the development of places and names etc. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 25, 2021 22:13:20 GMT 1
I remember when Graeme Souness joined them and took a few England international stars there with him ( I suspect they only came as English teams couldn’t play in Europe at the time) and they frequently referred to them in the media here as Glasgow Rangers, that would be around the late 80’s. A lot of European opposition managers also said the same in match previews.
Generally the Scottish media would just refer to them in the singular manner, but their own fans have songs singing both names so again that could confuse someone looking in from afar.
There’s also the issue that Berwick Rangers were part of the Scottish League until being recently relegated to the Lowland League through the pyramid system. Cove Rangers are now established in the league system and it’s only a matter of time till an ambitious Brora Rangers get league status and should Berwick Rangers return then they’ll be a helluva lot of Rangers in the Scottish League set up.
Since their subsequent liquidation in 2012, their fans have been mercilessly taunted by supporters of every other club about being a new-club, they get called Sevco in pubs by opposition fans in relation to the Phoenix company that applied for a new membership to The Scottish League which was granted on 29/7/2012. All other fans chant to them “you’re not Rangers anymore” in relation to running up over £100 million in debt that was used as working capital (player purchases) and then dumping it to the competitive disadvantage to the rest of the league.
Scotland being the tribal football landscape that it is , I cannot see this - yous are a new club / we’re not a new club - debate ever abating. It’s still rumbling on even here years later.
I think it would be good if Huddersfield Town could play a friendly in Glasgow on the Saturday at Parkhead v Celtic and Ibrox on the Tuesday or vice versa and Town fans could enjoy the delights of a half week in Glasgow ( it’s a great City despite the reputation) and the natives are genuinely friendly and helpful. Just give them a wee ear about how bad they’ll tell you the “other mob” are !
Unlikey to happen as Town players will still be on the beach when Celtic and Rangers are playing in qualifiers for Europe, however I’m led to believe that this season SPFL champions gain direct entry to The champions league group stages so one will be free for pre season friendly matches at the same time as Town.
If either were to come down to Huddersfield for a friendly, The economy would do well, hotels, (pubs definitely) ! But the downside is that Rangers fans have a history of getting too drunk and wrecking the town’s they visit in England and Celtic fans will sing political songs all day long, get drunk too, maybe not wreck any town, but be sick all over the streets.
To finish... what a great result that was for Huddersfield Town a 5-1 win over Glasgow Rangers / Rangers... not sure if Town have ever played Celtic in a friendly, but if they have and won or were to play and won that would be some double !
Maybe some Town fan ( and we have fans like no other that love and cherish our history and rightly so ) could compile a statistical page of all the Scottish clubs Town have ever played in friendly / fundraising matches.
I’ve seen HTAFC play in a pre season friendly v Hibernian at Easter Road a few years back and the Town fans enjoyed that, so hopefully more visits to Bonnie Scotland for “Huddy Town” and their fans to enjoy !
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 25, 2021 22:29:57 GMT 1
Maybe some Town fan ( and we have fans like no other that love and cherish our history and rightly so ) could compile a statistical page of all the Scottish clubs Town have ever played in friendly / fundraising matches. This will be in 99 Years & Counting in the Friendly Games section. If nobody else looks it up for you, pm me. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 25, 2021 22:45:44 GMT 1
All of those items (Boys Magazine, Stars, and the Famous Forwards obviously includes English based players), are British/English productions, rather than specifically Scottish made for a Scottish audience. I wonder if thats where the 'error' (as such) is made. Is there any actual official Scottish thing made for a Scottish audience anywhere that has ever presented them as 'Glasgow Rangers'? Such as - a HOME programme? All very intriguing. I'm not massively into football history, but little local history tales do generally intrigue me. Love spending a couple of hours searching historic maps and looking at the development of places and names etc. You're right, but D.C. Thomson were based in Dundee and would know whether to write Glasgow or not. At present I can't find any examples of their footy cards of either Celtic or Rangers. In the meantime here's one from the 1922/23 series of Pluck teams.  Interestingly, there was a Scottish only issue of card 15 of "Celtic F.C.", but I can't track a picture down; the Scots issued versions are very, very hard to find (and amazingly expensive when you do!) |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 25, 2021 23:09:52 GMT 1
Maybe some Town fan ( and we have fans like no other that love and cherish our history and rightly so ) could compile a statistical page of all the Scottish clubs Town have ever played in friendly / fundraising matches. This will be in 99 Years & Counting in the Friendly Games section. If nobody else looks it up for you, pm me. Thank- you MT... I have this excellent book amongst many excellent ones of Huddersfield Town.. I’ll have a wee look at it, easy access as it sits beside 100 years - all that’s worth knowing - on the old type table at the back of my lounge ! I’m not sure what pm me means though... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 0:01:22 GMT 1
All of those items (Boys Magazine, Stars, and the Famous Forwards obviously includes English based players), are British/English productions, rather than specifically Scottish made for a Scottish audience. I wonder if thats where the 'error' (as such) is made. Is there any actual official Scottish thing made for a Scottish audience anywhere that has ever presented them as 'Glasgow Rangers'? Such as - a HOME programme? All very intriguing. I'm not massively into football history, but little local history tales do generally intrigue me. Love spending a couple of hours searching historic maps and looking at the development of places and names etc. You're right, but D.C. Thomson were based in Dundee and would know whether to write Glasgow or not. At present I can't find any examples of their footy cards of either Celtic or Rangers. In the meantime here's one from the 1922/23 series of Pluck teams. Interestingly, there was a Scottish only issue of card 15 of "Celtic F.C.", but I can't track a picture down; the Scots issued versions are very, very hard to find (and amazingly expensive when you do!) That’s the follow up as well I guess…I’ve been convinced for at least 30 years if not more than Celtic FC are called “Glasgow Celtic”, but was surprised to discover that’s not correct either 🤯😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 0:06:30 GMT 1
Rangers  from 1880s…no mention of Glasgow.  And I guess also that famous intertwined RFC logo they used before the rubbish current new Rangers team badge was created never had a G 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 0:09:09 GMT 1
A very similar and mind blowing aside is that there is not, and never has been, a football club called Sporting Lisbon 🤯🤷♂️
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 1, 2021 16:59:34 GMT 1
£3702.00 Gob-smacking!  |
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 1, 2021 18:25:13 GMT 1
£3702.00 Gob-smacking! Probably be a good investment, especially as the centenary of that match is imminent in the next few years and it may generate a few extra quid being 100 years old. I’ve a good few Huddersfield Town programmes, some back to the 60’s. I must show the young ones in the family what can be fetched if folks hang on to things long enough... Pity none of ma oldies thought about keeping old things for me ! Another really good investment is Scottish malt whisky’s (if you have the disclipine not to crack them open !) Lots of huge profit margins to be made on certain Islay ones.. I must ask Luke (retail manager @ HTAFC) if Town would consider doing a run of Huddersfield Town whisky ! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 1, 2021 18:31:12 GMT 1
Wouldn’t be surprised if the winning bid came from someone that has a connection to Rangers. They are still seen as a massive global club (along with Celtic) despite the diminished reputation of Scottish football. People will pay for stuff connected to their history.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2021 8:29:41 GMT 1
Wouldn’t be surprised if the winning bid came from someone that has a connection to Rangers. They are still seen as a massive global club (along with Celtic) despite the diminished reputation of Scottish football. People will pay for stuff connected to their history. Bacuna bought it? |
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Post by goodbet on Sept 2, 2021 9:44:55 GMT 1
Wouldn’t be surprised if the winning bid came from someone that has a connection to Rangers. They are still seen as a massive global club (along with Celtic) despite the diminished reputation of Scottish football. People will pay for stuff connected to their history. Bacuna bought it? I think you will find that they bought Bacuna. |
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Post by bridgeterrier on Sept 2, 2021 10:06:59 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 2, 2021 11:00:41 GMT 1
Yes, I had already noticed Harry Cawthorne's medal there...  |
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from 1880s…no mention of Glasgow.
