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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 25, 2021 17:39:14 GMT 1
I'm sure there must be another thread on him but it was my first time seeing him live. Sat in the FM stand gave me a good chance to see him close at hand. He's so much more comfortable with the ball at his feet than RS. I think a lot of our good play last night was because of this. He's very calm and gets us playing from the back and clearly the defence trust him too. As an aside, I was watching la Liga TV today and they were comparing the two Barca keepers and the difference on how they play depending who's in goal. It could have been a very discussion about us to be honest. Not that I'm comparing us and Barca!!
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 25, 2021 17:52:30 GMT 1
Another find. For all that our recruitment team take some (often justified!) stick, credit where it's due. They're good at unearthing gems, and Lee Nicholls is one.
2nd choice keeper in the division below does not suggest that he's going to be any great shakes at this level even from the bench, let alone first choice but here we are. He's not just "better than the other guy", he's actually good. Other than the blonde Danish chap we had on loan from Everton he's the best keeper we've had since dropping out of the PL.
MK Dons first choice keeper must be pretty decent!
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Post by sabailand on Aug 25, 2021 18:11:49 GMT 1
Another find. For all that our recruitment team take some (often justified!) stick, credit where it's due. They're good at unearthing gems, and Lee Nicholls is one. 2nd choice keeper in the division below does not suggest that he's going to be any great shakes at this level even from the bench, let alone first choice but here we are. He's not just "better than the other guy", he's actually good. Other than the blonde Danish chap we had on loan from Everton he's the best keeper we've had since dropping out of the PL. MK Dons first choice keeper must be pretty decent! I asked a mate about this and he told me he had some contractual disagreement or other, so therefore wasnt always picked, again only going on what my mate said.
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 25, 2021 18:13:04 GMT 1
He’s also very vocal - constantly talking and bellowing at his defenders a variety of instructions and orders!
And yes, I’m sure his assuredness and confidence gives the players in front of him a level of trust that allows them to get on with their job without the worry of what may happen behind them!
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Post by bluestripe on Aug 25, 2021 18:43:30 GMT 1
He has lots going for him: 1. He's done well in a small number of games.
2. He's not Schofield.
But he's going through his honeymoon period, just as Corberàn was this time last year, when he could also do no wrong.
Hopefully Nicholls is still seen in a positive light in half a season's time.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 25, 2021 18:44:53 GMT 1
Two weeks ago, according to the experts, we had two rubbish goalkeepers and this position was still a priority signing.
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Post by birchencliffe on Aug 25, 2021 19:16:33 GMT 1
from what i have seen he is very confident and has a mouth on him ..i think this lad is the real deal ..a good find IMO
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Aug 25, 2021 19:27:45 GMT 1
Two weeks ago, according to the experts, we had two rubbish goalkeepers and this position was still a priority signing. I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice.
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Post by Amigo on Aug 25, 2021 20:09:46 GMT 1
The best thing I can probably say is that when a cross is coming in my immediate worry at the moment isn't "where is our keeper?" I've already got used to the fact that more than likely he's where he should be and will do pretty much what he should. If I'm thinking like that I'd imagine it's the same for our defenders.
I don't like to bash Schofield but I really don't think he's going to make it and he needs a lot of protecting but he's in the wrong position to be able to do that, maybe he'll fill out and grow mentally and physically and his development will come on from that but I'm very doubtful.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 25, 2021 20:17:46 GMT 1
Two weeks ago, according to the experts, we had two rubbish goalkeepers and this position was still a priority signing. I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. TBF, I saw a few people suggesting he was crap. Must be, because he was 2nd choice in the division below. Mus admit, for all that I tend to advocate "give him a chance" I did not have high hopes that he'd be anything other than "better cover than The Hologram/Poppadom Hands". Which tbf, law of averages says we'd get that whoever we'd signed.
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Post by Rambo on Aug 25, 2021 20:58:22 GMT 1
He has lots going for him: 1. He's done well in a small number of games. 2. He's not Schofield. But he's going through his honeymoon period, just as Corberàn was this time last year, when he could also do no wrong. Hopefully Nicholls is still seen in a positive light in half a season's time. Fuck me, that's half empty init??
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Post by Rambo on Aug 25, 2021 21:01:53 GMT 1
The best thing I can probably say is that when a cross is coming in my immediate worry at the moment isn't "where is our keeper?" I've already got used to the fact that more than likely he's where he should be and will do pretty much what he should. If I'm thinking like that I'd imagine it's the same for our defenders. I don't like to bash Schofield but I really don't think he's going to make it and he needs a lot of protecting but he's in the wrong position to be able to do that, maybe he'll fill out and grow mentally and physically and his development will come on from that but I'm very doubtful. I actually fear Schofield may possibly fade away. Despite a promising Championship debut last season when he pulled of a couple of really top saves, his form and confidence has since nosedived. Couple this with the defence's confidence in him also deteriorating, it's not a great sign.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 25, 2021 21:08:39 GMT 1
Two weeks ago, according to the experts, we had two rubbish goalkeepers and this position was still a priority signing. I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. Nah! One of the experts was saying that Schofield would never be good enough and Nicholls was yet another cheap League 1 signing and that a goalkeeper was a priority.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 25, 2021 21:09:47 GMT 1
The best thing I can probably say is that when a cross is coming in my immediate worry at the moment isn't "where is our keeper?" I've already got used to the fact that more than likely he's where he should be and will do pretty much what he should. If I'm thinking like that I'd imagine it's the same for our defenders. I don't like to bash Schofield but I really don't think he's going to make it and he needs a lot of protecting but he's in the wrong position to be able to do that, maybe he'll fill out and grow mentally and physically and his development will come on from that but I'm very doubtful. I actually fear Schofield may possibly fade away. Despite a promising Championship debut last season when he pulled of a couple of really top saves, his form and confidence has since nosedived. Couple this with the defence's confidence in him also deteriorating, it's not a great sign. I have 2 hopes with Schofield: 1) He overcomes this crisis of confidence & has a great career as a goalkeeper. 2) Whether (1) happens or not, I hope the club learn from this. Throwing a kid in at the deep end might sometimes be justified, but when they sink rather than swim, maybe pull them out of the water rather than watching them slowly drown in the hope they'll pull themselves out of the mess you put them in. I fear we may have ruined his career with how he was handled last season, and trying to go too cheap with goalkeepers was at best a false economy. Last night should have been a perfect game to give a young, promising goalkeeper some first team experience.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Aug 25, 2021 22:11:04 GMT 1
I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. Nah! One of the experts was saying that Schofield would never be good enough and Nicholls was yet another cheap League 1 signing and that a goalkeeper was a priority. Fair enough, I stand corrected. I pray to God Nicholls doesn't get an injury as schofield causes panic in our defence, whilst Nicholls is calm and assured.
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Post by omegasupreme on Aug 25, 2021 23:23:49 GMT 1
Two weeks ago, according to the experts, we had two rubbish goalkeepers and this position was still a priority signing. Not sure anyone was calling Nichols rubbish. Despite his decent start they ideally still need another senior keeper so RS can leave on loan or something.
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Post by bluestripe on Aug 25, 2021 23:32:21 GMT 1
He has lots going for him: 1. He's done well in a small number of games. 2. He's not Schofield. But he's going through his honeymoon period, just as Corberàn was this time last year, when he could also do no wrong. Hopefully Nicholls is still seen in a positive light in half a season's time. Fuck me, that's half empty init?? Nah, not really. Nature of forums is to paint everything as extremely good or downright dogsh#t, when in reality it is somewhere in between or can change quickly. Nicholls has done everything asked of him so far, but he hasn't really had any tough games yet. Or had to endure a bad run of games yet. As I say, hope he does well. And equally I hope Schofield can find his mojo / continue his development, and challenge Nicholls.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 25, 2021 23:45:37 GMT 1
I'm sure there must be another thread on him but it was my first time seeing him live. Sat in the FM stand gave me a good chance to see him close at hand. He's so much more comfortable with the ball at his feet than RS. I think a lot of our good play last night was because of this. He's very calm and gets us playing from the back and clearly the defence trust him too. As an aside, I was watching la Liga TV today and they were comparing the two Barca keepers and the difference on how they play depending who's in goal. It could have been a very discussion about us to be honest. Not that I'm comparing us and Barca!!Are you sure? Barca have just flogged Messi? ;)
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 26, 2021 0:34:58 GMT 1
I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. Nah! One of the experts was saying that Schofield would never be good enough and Nicholls was yet another cheap League 1 signing and that a goalkeeper was a priority. Yes I do remember that, however, in context I thought it was about sending RS out on loan to a lower level, thus making another signing a priority. I still agree with that assessment. If they want RS to develop then he needs to go on loan as he’s proven that he’s not a solution over more than a few games. Saying Nichols was a cheap league 1 signing? Well it’s true. However I never believed that he was a poor keeper just because he came on a free from league 1. It was well documented he was benched because he wouldn’t sign a new contract.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Aug 26, 2021 2:00:58 GMT 1
Nicholls for me, has been our best signing this season.
Couple it up with the arrivals of Colwill and Pearson, the improvement in Sarr and now a fit Toffolo as well.....we have a decent backline! Not sold on Turton, but I'm happy to give him more time as he is better than our backup players from last year and he is adjusting a new league.
We may still end up in a relegation battle (or maybe not!) but I'm more confident now that we won't be the worst defending team in the league.
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 26, 2021 3:29:05 GMT 1
1. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He’s a Huyton Lad... And his form’s no bad... Walking in Lee Nichols’ new found Land !
2. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He came from MK Dons... He’ll save all the one on ones... Walking in Lee Nichols’ wonder Land !
A couple of wee verses there for The Cowshed Choir to sing to Lee if desired and he’s playing well enough to merit the words !
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Post by cissystrutt74 on Aug 26, 2021 3:33:12 GMT 1
I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. Nah! One of the experts was saying that Schofield would never be good enough and Nicholls was yet another cheap League 1 signing and that a goalkeeper was a priority. Kenny you're better than this!! Don't drop down a couple of divisions, stay classy!
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 26, 2021 7:37:13 GMT 1
1. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He’s a Huyton Lad... And his form’s no bad... Walking in Lee Nichols’ new found Land ! 2. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He came from MK Dons... He’ll save all the one on ones... Walking in Lee Nichols’ wonder Land ! A couple of wee verses there for The Cowshed Choir to sing to Lee if desired and he’s playing well enough to merit the words ! I wonder what Jello Biafra has to say about this.
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Post by orinoco on Aug 26, 2021 9:09:38 GMT 1
I dont recall seeing that opinion anywhere. What I read was that schofield wasn't good enough and Nichols must be first choice. Nah! One of the experts was saying that Schofield would never be good enough and Nicholls was yet another cheap League 1 signing and that a goalkeeper was a priority. I can also remember reading them quotes also.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 26, 2021 10:45:37 GMT 1
I was very skeptical about the signing of Nicholls originally. It was mainly due to the same people who scouted Pereira, Leutwiler & thought Schofield was ready to play regularly in the Championship had identified a keeper in league 1 who had mainly played at that level as good enough for this level.
Glad to say, so far, I've been proved wrong. He looks a solid keeper, commands his area, very vocal. Pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Aug 26, 2021 13:59:13 GMT 1
1. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He’s a Huyton Lad... And his form’s no bad... Walking in Lee Nichols’ new found Land ! 2. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He came from MK Dons... He’ll save all the one on ones... Walking in Lee Nichols’ wonder Land ! A couple of wee verses there for The Cowshed Choir to sing to Lee if desired and he’s playing well enough to merit the words ! I wonder what Jello Biafra has to say about this. *clears throat* Fuck. Me. Rigid.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 26, 2021 22:33:55 GMT 1
1. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He’s a Huyton Lad... And his form’s no bad... Walking in Lee Nichols’ new found Land ! 2. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He came from MK Dons... He’ll save all the one on ones... Walking in Lee Nichols’ wonder Land ! A couple of wee verses there for The Cowshed Choir to sing to Lee if desired and he’s playing well enough to merit the words ! Way to go Westie!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 22:39:10 GMT 1
1. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He’s a Huyton Lad... And his form’s no bad... Walking in Lee Nichols’ new found Land ! 2. There’s only one Lee-Nichols... He gaurds The HT-AFC goals... He came from MK Dons... He’ll save all the one on ones... Walking in Lee Nichols’ wonder Land ! A couple of wee verses there for The Cowshed Choir to sing to Lee if desired and he’s playing well enough to merit the words ! Way to go Westie! I tried that song earlier. I’ll be honest, I thought it was wank. Anyway, I’ve just had a bottle of the old Chardonnay and I’ve tried it again. It was still wank. Fair play though Westie, you are my new favourite poster!
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 26, 2021 23:20:41 GMT 1
Cheers folks !
Aye while not quite a frustrated songwriter of footy chant writer like above... it would be a lofty ambition to hear something I’d penned reverberate around The (new) Cowshed and the rest of The John Smith’s stadium !
Nicholls is probably not the best easy name to rhyme out with, or where he came from etc.. but aye it passed a wee hour last night...
Anyway... maybe one day !
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 27, 2021 0:46:23 GMT 1
Some interesting early season Championship stats analysed by this YouTuber; you’ll realise why I stuck it here about halfway through the video...
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