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Post by ball on Oct 24, 2021 9:32:00 GMT 1
Don’t know if this is the place for it, but Adebayo the lad we didn’t sign from Walsall bagged his 7th of the season already yesterday. I’d love to know why we thought he wasn’t ready but mipo was. Hindsight makes it easy to judge granted
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2021 9:41:32 GMT 1
Don’t know if this is the place for it, but Adebayo the lad we didn’t sign from Walsall bagged his 7th of the season already yesterday. I’d love to know why we thought he wasn’t ready but mipo was. Hindsight makes it easy to judge granted We didn't think he wasn't ready, we were fucked about by Walsall and walked away.
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Post by bleaklow on Oct 24, 2021 10:42:11 GMT 1
Typical arrogance by Hodgkinson. We should have signed him - another huge mistake; they preferred to sign the likes of Turton and Sanani. I hope they get the signings right in January, we're desperate for two quality players whose abilities are far in front of what we have now.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 24, 2021 11:28:14 GMT 1
Saving our money to bring in one more past it player!
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 24, 2021 11:31:56 GMT 1
The ironic thing is that in the first 10 minutes when their central defender slipped and Campbell was free on goal, it needed somebody with a bit of raw pace. Odubeko might have been that man.
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 24, 2021 11:33:02 GMT 1
Don’t know if this is the place for it, but Adebayo the lad we didn’t sign from Walsall bagged his 7th of the season already yesterday. I’d love to know why we thought he wasn’t ready but mipo was. Hindsight makes it easy to judge granted we didn't think he wasn't ready. we made a bid, they accepted, then tried to be cheeky and raise the price again at the last minute thinking we'd still cough up. Phil rightly told them where to go and they sold him to Luton for less than our initial bid. I wish we'd got him but it was hardly a mess up on our part. We signed Thomas the day before
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 11:45:24 GMT 1
Don’t know if this is the place for it, but Adebayo the lad we didn’t sign from Walsall bagged his 7th of the season already yesterday. I’d love to know why we thought he wasn’t ready but mipo was. Hindsight makes it easy to judge granted We didn't think he wasn't ready, we were fucked about by Walsall and walked away. This has been said many a time. Fucked about or not, we should have then matched Lutons offer that they accepted. They're entitled to get everything they can from an ex Premier League club. Phil took his bat and ball home. It's done now unfortunately, would have been a good addition, could have come and done his ACL, who knows. Good luck to the lad
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Post by ritchie on Oct 24, 2021 12:02:46 GMT 1
I'm gutted we didnt get him tbh, seems a good signing... but sometimes you have to walk away. Phil stood strong on that and also on grant and obrien, when he could have rolled over - it works both ways, his tough stance has us keeping one of our better players.
Walsall might have a better player than Adebayo one day and they will know to take us a bit more seriously if we come in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 12:05:27 GMT 1
Saying Phil was right and Walsall were taking the mick, trying to get every bit of money they could, from a team with parachute payments.
If I remember rightly, we have done this many times to clubs Blackburn being one of them we got every bit from. So why cant others?
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 24, 2021 12:13:31 GMT 1
Saying Phil was right and Walsall were taking the mick, trying to get every bit of money they could, from a team with parachute payments. If I remember rightly, we have done this many times to clubs Blackburn being one of them we got every bit from. So why cant others? Two things though. Our parachute payments have all disappeared and it’s PH who makes to call. At the end of day I personally think we’ve should have bought the lad. But can’t blame PH for always trying to get the best deal in or out
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 12:25:30 GMT 1
We didn't think he wasn't ready, we were fucked about by Walsall and walked away. This has been said many a time. Fucked about or not, we should have then matched Lutons offer that they accepted. They're entitled to get everything they can from an ex Premier League club. Phil took his bat and ball home. It's done now unfortunately, would have been a good addition, could have come and done his ACL, who knows. Good luck to the lad When someone gazumps you would you pay the higher price or look for a more equitable property elsewhere? After the gazumping falls through would you be offering the lower amount a new buyer offers with the expectation of success?
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 24, 2021 12:32:57 GMT 1
Typical arrogance by Hodgkinson. We should have signed him - another huge mistake; they preferred to sign the likes of Turton and Sanani. I hope they get the signings right in January, we're desperate for two quality players whose abilities are far in front of what we have now. In fairness since the start of last season the most recent long term signings have been right; pipa, Thomas, Nichols, lees all file in good for me Decent are Holmes, Pearson, Vallejo, Sarr, ie did the job they were expected to do and cost little Jury out on grant and ruffels due to injury Turton, Aarons, Ward and Rhodes have some convincing to do. Ward recently doing better Given we must have the lowest transfer budget in the league that’s not too bad by the recruitment team - and I’ve been very critical of recruitment in the past
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 12:33:25 GMT 1
This has been said many a time. Fucked about or not, we should have then matched Lutons offer that they accepted. They're entitled to get everything they can from an ex Premier League club. Phil took his bat and ball home. It's done now unfortunately, would have been a good addition, could have come and done his ACL, who knows. Good luck to the lad When someone gazumps you would you pay the higher price or look for a more equitable property elsewhere? After the gazumping falls through would you be offering the lower amount a new buyer offers with the expectation of success? Clearly wanted to squeeze as much out of us and our parachute payments money. Say we offered 2m they upped to 2.5m, we decline and pull out. Luton offer say 1.5m and they accept, go in and offer that or slightly more. So what they pissed about for more money, we rinse teams in the market as much as possible. Crying over spilt milk or having a goalscorer that could have us sat cosy in the top 6, I know my choice.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 24, 2021 12:35:31 GMT 1
We didn't think he wasn't ready, we were fucked about by Walsall and walked away. This has been said many a time. Fucked about or not, we should have then matched Lutons offer that they accepted. They're entitled to get everything they can from an ex Premier League club. Phil took his bat and ball home. It's done now unfortunately, would have been a good addition, could have come and done his ACL, who knows. Good luck to the lad Exactly did town roll over for wba first offer for Grant or with LOB and Leeds. Or is it only acceptable when town drive the hard bargain We cut our nose to spite our face IMO. Given we loaned Phillips to Walsall a few months later I doubt there’s much hard feeling between the clubs
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 24, 2021 13:12:44 GMT 1
May aswell send Mipo back in January. If he can't even get on the bench when we play 3 games in a week then it's pointless him being here. Send him back & bring in a striker that can actually challenge for a starting slot.
It was worth a try but it's clearly not working out for the lad, unfortunately.
Our strikers have scored 3 goals between them in 16 games so far this season, we're too reliant on our CBs scoring (7 in 16)
We offered over a million for Mipo in the last window so the money is there, the club need to work hard to identify a striker who can hold the ball up but also score on a more regular basis than our current crop. It could make the difference between top 10 or bottom 10.
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Post by Galpharmer on Oct 24, 2021 13:21:14 GMT 1
The ironic thing is that in the first 10 minutes when their central defender slipped and Campbell was free on goal, it needed somebody with a bit of raw pace. Odubeko might have been that man. Somebody slipped and it wasn’t Campbell? Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 13:27:55 GMT 1
When someone gazumps you would you pay the higher price or look for a more equitable property elsewhere? After the gazumping falls through would you be offering the lower amount a new buyer offers with the expectation of success? Clearly wanted to squeeze as much out of us and our parachute payments money. Say we offered 2m they upped to 2.5m, we decline and pull out. Luton offer say 1.5m and they accept, go in and offer that or slightly more. So what they pissed about for more money, we rinse teams in the market as much as possible. Crying over spilt milk or having a goalscorer that could have us sat cosy in the top 6, I know my choice. So you're crying over spilt milk, as I haven't seen PH saying he is. You think it's public knowledge at the time what Luton offer & we should come back with say 1.75m & everyone except Luton are happy? Really?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 13:32:22 GMT 1
Clearly wanted to squeeze as much out of us and our parachute payments money. Say we offered 2m they upped to 2.5m, we decline and pull out. Luton offer say 1.5m and they accept, go in and offer that or slightly more. So what they pissed about for more money, we rinse teams in the market as much as possible. Crying over spilt milk or having a goalscorer that could have us sat cosy in the top 6, I know my choice. So you're crying over spilt milk, as I haven't seen PH saying he is. You think it's public knowledge at the time what Luton offer & we should come back with say 1.75m & everyone except Luton are happy? Really? Good luck on your quest on here Steve. You argumentative little sod
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 13:46:39 GMT 1
So you're crying over spilt milk, as I haven't seen PH saying he is. You think it's public knowledge at the time what Luton offer & we should come back with say 1.75m & everyone except Luton are happy? Really? Good luck on your quest on here Steve. You argumentative little sod You are criticising the club & stating how easy it is to do better, but saying I'm argumentative? Er, glass houses anyone? And that's me being generous.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 13:48:57 GMT 1
Good luck on your quest on here Steve. You argumentative little sod You are criticising the club & stating how easy it is to do better, but saying I'm argumentative? Er, glass houses anyone? And that's me being generous. You're saying I'm crying over spilt milk. Clear as day Phil didn't like what they tried and took off. Yet we are ok doing it to others. I'm gonna block you Steve cos you're a complete pain in my fucking arse on here with ya snide comments to folk too. You're the reason I was banned, for stating what you are. Good luck and fuck off
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Post by goodbet on Oct 24, 2021 17:22:09 GMT 1
Probably not the right place for these musings on Towns transfers.
The issue a number of people had about this transfer was it was just another example of a transfer mess on deadline line, just like the previous window where we could not get our fax out in time apparently.
It seems that we have reverted to getting players in early in the last window as we failed miserably leaving it late in the previous two windows.
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Post by terriers2000 on Oct 24, 2021 17:32:54 GMT 1
he'll be back fully fit atfer the international break 👍
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 24, 2021 18:09:05 GMT 1
Saying Phil was right and Walsall were taking the mick, trying to get every bit of money they could, from a team with parachute payments. If I remember rightly, we have done this many times to clubs Blackburn being one of them we got every bit from. So why cant others? Nobody is saying they can't. The clubs we did it to could've walked away but didn't and coughed up what we wanted. Their choice.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Oct 24, 2021 18:39:09 GMT 1
Really easy to say we should've done this or that in hindsight isn't it. We could've paid more for Adebayo and he might have come here and been utter garbage. As it stands I'm glad we didn't spend six figures on Odubeko, I know that much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 18:59:10 GMT 1
Saying Phil was right and Walsall were taking the mick, trying to get every bit of money they could, from a team with parachute payments. If I remember rightly, we have done this many times to clubs Blackburn being one of them we got every bit from. So why cant others? Nobody is saying they can't. The clubs we did it to could've walked away but didn't and coughed up what we wanted. Their choice. Shame we cant cough up so to speak.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 25, 2021 9:37:51 GMT 1
Probably not the right place for these musings on Towns transfers. The issue a number of people had about this transfer was it was just another example of a transfer mess on deadline line, just like the previous window where we could not get our fax out in time apparently. It seems that we have reverted to getting players in early in the last window as we failed miserably leaving it late in the previous two windows. Are you talking about Mipo? Was it a mess? Most people were regarding it as a coup to get a highly rated premier league youngster. We tried to buy him and got him on loan instead. Were you calling it a mess at the time? Seemed like we moved pretty quickly when Rhodes got a long term injury. Would we have signed Mipo if that hasn’t happened? Highly unlikely given we had 3 strikers on the books. Seems like with hindsight you’re lumping this in with the shambles from previous windows when actually the recruitment team did a good job this time.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 25, 2021 9:56:36 GMT 1
With hindsight West Ham and Odubeko are probably wishing he'd gone elsewhere, if he's simply here for experience in playing 'adults football' then I don't think he's going to get game time here.
Absolutely no idea if he's benefiting from the training or what he's doing in training but he seems to have slipped further down Corberan's plans, he's not making the bench some games. Might be struggling to settle up North, I suppose it will be different for a young lad from London.
If I was him I'd be eyeing up Charlton, Leyton Orient or even someone like Crawley Town for the second half of the season loan.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 25, 2021 10:22:11 GMT 1
With hindsight West Ham and Odubeko are probably wishing he'd gone elsewhere, if he's simply here for experience in playing 'adults football' then I don't think he's going to get game time here. Absolutely no idea if he's benefiting from the training or what he's doing in training but he seems to have slipped further down Corberan's plans, he's not making the bench some games. Might be struggling to settle up North, I suppose it will be different for a young lad from London. If I was him I'd be eyeing up Charlton, Leyton Orient or even someone like Crawley Town for the second half of the season loan. We seem to have a lot of Londoners in the youth team plus colville, Thomas and koroma in the first team. I’d imagine it’s a decent workplace to be a 19 year old lad He could be home sick but there’s plenty his age in the same position at Town to help him out.
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Post by captainblack on Oct 25, 2021 10:51:16 GMT 1
With hindsight West Ham and Odubeko are probably wishing he'd gone elsewhere, if he's simply here for experience in playing 'adults football' then I don't think he's going to get game time here. Absolutely no idea if he's benefiting from the training or what he's doing in training but he seems to have slipped further down Corberan's plans, he's not making the bench some games. Might be struggling to settle up North, I suppose it will be different for a young lad from London. If I was him I'd be eyeing up Charlton, Leyton Orient or even someone like Crawley Town for the second half of the season loan. I was informed by Porrohman on page 10 that Mipo had not been getting into the squad as he has been poorly recently , I don't know if this is still the case to be honest , It was said earlier in the thread that Mipo is originally from Manchester, so you would hope he could settle in quite well. I do hope this lad, if fit now, is given some game time It would be a shame if he returned to West Ham without being given a real chance. You would think there could be real potential with Mipo if we were willing to spend £1m on him.
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 25, 2021 11:00:03 GMT 1
With hindsight West Ham and Odubeko are probably wishing he'd gone elsewhere, if he's simply here for experience in playing 'adults football' then I don't think he's going to get game time here. Absolutely no idea if he's benefiting from the training or what he's doing in training but he seems to have slipped further down Corberan's plans, he's not making the bench some games. Might be struggling to settle up North, I suppose it will be different for a young lad from London. If I was him I'd be eyeing up Charlton, Leyton Orient or even someone like Crawley Town for the second half of the season loan. He's not from London, he's from Dublin then Manchester from early teens. Went through Man City and Man U academies before moving to West Ham at 17.
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