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Post by drumriggend on Sept 1, 2021 17:33:27 GMT 1
To the black eyed peas tune..
I gotta feeeling..
It’s about time that you foooooked off..
Repeat..
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Post by detox on Sept 1, 2021 17:48:07 GMT 1
Please stop
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Post by detox on Sept 1, 2021 17:48:22 GMT 1
Please stop
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 1, 2021 18:53:38 GMT 1
To the tune of “she hates me” by puddle of mudd
We fucking hate you
We fucking hate you
Lalalala
You didn’t try And you took our money Now we’ve got none And you won’t go away
If you know the tune you can sing it else it makes zero sense
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 1, 2021 19:17:04 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed.
Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault.
Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season.
Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 19:20:29 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed. Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault. Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season. Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished. Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 1, 2021 19:27:26 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed. Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault. Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season. Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished. Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with I didn't know this thus my question!. It is also though not his fault if the Club has decided to put him on a contract with higher wages than he can get anywhere else. That is the Club's fault. In terms though of his performances last season when he was clearly trying and often playing well, why though the change of heart with him no longer being an option for us?. This appears unwarranted purely based on the playing element and it sounds like we are penalising him for being on a contract we were stupid enough to give him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 19:31:56 GMT 1
Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with I didn't know this thus my question!. It is also though not his fault if the Club has decided to put him on a contract with higher wages than he can get anywhere else. That is the Club's fault. In terms though of his performances last season when he was clearly trying and often playing well, why though the change of heart with him no longer being an option for us?. This appears unwarranted purely based on the playing element and it sounds like we are penalising him for a contract we were stupid enough to give him. Totally the clubs fault extending and gambling we could sell him. He needs to take alot of this himself, in way of being a footballer. Go piss off and play it elsewhere. Sure he would get a decent contract, just not as much as here. Wold I involve him as we are stuck with him? No Reason being, I wouldn't bring someone we have clearly tried to pie off to numerous clubs, into this group to potentially disrupt. He gives us a good free kick here and there, which we are more than covered with now. He's been offered the move, made its just about money, which ok he's looking after himself. He doesn't want to play football, dont play him in any category and let him train on his own. Problem solved there then, he doesn't need to play football and can collect his wages
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 1, 2021 19:32:09 GMT 1
You what bro??? I haven’t even started.. This c##t is a disgrace to the club.. The supporters.. And himself.. Isaac.......... Foook off.. Anywhere will do.. Just go.. 👍
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Post by Ox Terrier on Sept 1, 2021 19:40:58 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed. Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault. Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season. Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished. Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with If I was told by my employer that I wasn’t required, even though I’m on a contract to age 55, and I couldn’t see a way of getting at least my current salary elsewhere, I’d politely reject the offer to leave. The contract was offered to me and they can stand by it. Why should sentiment come into it? Mbenza won’t have been offered a fraction of the salary he’s earning at Town, so why should he leave? Why should the fans be annoyed? If he’s got any sense, he’ll be squirrelling away every penny he can to help him the future. The Club can’t grumble either, they offered a contract that they considered acceptable, they did the maths before it was signed. And they took the option of another year! Fair play to Mbenza, he’s tried but it hasn’t worked out for him. We can’t expect him to say “forget the money”.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 19:43:09 GMT 1
Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with If I was told by my employer that I wasn’t required, even though I’m on a contract to age 55, and I couldn’t see a way of getting at least my current salary elsewhere, I’d politely reject the offer to leave. The contract was offered to me and they can stand by it. Why should sentiment come into it? Mbenza won’t have been offered a fraction of the salary he’s earning at Town, so why should he leave? Why should the fans be annoyed? If he’s got any sense, he’ll be squirrelling away every penny he can to help him the future. The Club can’t grumble either, they offered a contract that they considered acceptable, they did the maths before it was signed. And they took the option of another year! Fair play to Mbenza, he’s tried but it hasn’t worked out for him. We can’t expect him to say “forget the money”. No we can't, so he can't moan to be left to rot and train on his own with his big paycheck. Swings and roundabouts
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 1, 2021 19:46:46 GMT 1
I didn't know this thus my question!. It is also though not his fault if the Club has decided to put him on a contract with higher wages than he can get anywhere else. That is the Club's fault. In terms though of his performances last season when he was clearly trying and often playing well, why though the change of heart with him no longer being an option for us?. This appears unwarranted purely based on the playing element and it sounds like we are penalising him for a contract we were stupid enough to give him. Totally the clubs fault extending and gambling we could sell him. He needs to take alot of this himself, in way of being a footballer. Go piss off and play it elsewhere. Sure he would get a decent contract, just not as much as here. Wold I involve him as we are stuck with him? No Reason being, I wouldn't bring someone we have clearly tried to pie off to numerous clubs, into this group to potentially disrupt. He gives us a good free kick here and there, which we are more than covered with now. He's been offered the move, made its just about money, which ok he's looking after himself. He doesn't want to play football, dont play him in any category and let him train on his own. Problem solved there then, he doesn't need to play football and can collect his wages I wouldn't necessarily start him but would have him as an option in the squad. Last season I saw no evidence of a bad apple? (with many on here praising his attitude and application on the pitch when many others had given up and were giving us nothing). In terms of him staying put, as an analogy. I am not sure what you work as, if though your bosses said to you that they want you to go and work elsewhere, potentially to another Country that you don't want to go to and oh, you are going to be on less money (and all of the afore mentioned to suit your employer and not you). I think your second word to them would be 'off'. The Club are penalising him for it's own fucked up decisions in the transfer market of which he was one. Is Mbenza refusing to play for us?. I don't believe so. I cannot see any credible justification for the Club's treatment of him and he does right picking up his wages in my opinion.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Sept 1, 2021 19:51:41 GMT 1
Fuck me.
We have some arseholes as fans.
Utterly pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 19:58:13 GMT 1
Totally the clubs fault extending and gambling we could sell him. He needs to take alot of this himself, in way of being a footballer. Go piss off and play it elsewhere. Sure he would get a decent contract, just not as much as here. Wold I involve him as we are stuck with him? No Reason being, I wouldn't bring someone we have clearly tried to pie off to numerous clubs, into this group to potentially disrupt. He gives us a good free kick here and there, which we are more than covered with now. He's been offered the move, made its just about money, which ok he's looking after himself. He doesn't want to play football, dont play him in any category and let him train on his own. Problem solved there then, he doesn't need to play football and can collect his wages I wouldn't necessarily start him but would have him as an option in the squad. Last season I saw no evidence of a bad apple? (with many on here praising his attitude and application on the pitch when many others had given up and were giving us nothing). In terms of him staying put, as an analogy. I am not sure what you work as, if though your bosses said to you that they want you to go and work elsewhere, potentially to another Country that you don't want to go to and oh, you are going to be on less money (and all of the afore mentioned to suit your employer and not you). I think your second word to them would be 'off'. The Club are penalising him for it's own fucked up decisions in the transfer market of which he was one. Is Mbenza refusing to play for us?. I don't believe so. I cannot see any credible justification for the Club's treatment of him and he does right picking up his wages in my opinion. The club got clever extended his contract, granted he's paying for it not playing. If he had faith in himself and to get back to a level he played at, he would have gone, took the cut and gone and proven himself to earn another big move. Both parties have massive faults here. I'd rather take even half what we are paying, then go prove everyone wrong and get another big move. He hasn't chose that, so the club I suppose, right or wrong can deal with their fuck up as they please
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Post by sapphireblue on Sept 1, 2021 19:58:18 GMT 1
[/quote]No we can't, so he can't moan to be left to rot and train on his own with his big paycheck. Swings and roundabouts [/quote]
He's not moaning, you seem to be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 20:04:08 GMT 1
No we can't, so he can't moan to be left to rot and train on his own with his big paycheck. Swings and roundabouts [/quote] He's not moaning, you seem to be. [/quote] I'm not moaning, I really couldn't give a fuck if I'm honest. I just put my opinion across. Him picking up a paycheck at the spanners that run Towns expense, won't decide what alter my mood or how nice my tea tastes. Couldn't give a toss, sooner he's gone the better, should have been let go in the summer but here we are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 20:04:48 GMT 1
I've entered the Pro Mbenza thread, I'll let you all type and train on your own
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 1, 2021 20:06:49 GMT 1
I wouldn't necessarily start him but would have him as an option in the squad. Last season I saw no evidence of a bad apple? (with many on here praising his attitude and application on the pitch when many others had given up and were giving us nothing). In terms of him staying put, as an analogy. I am not sure what you work as, if though your bosses said to you that they want you to go and work elsewhere, potentially to another Country that you don't want to go to and oh, you are going to be on less money (and all of the afore mentioned to suit your employer and not you). I think your second word to them would be 'off'. The Club are penalising him for it's own fucked up decisions in the transfer market of which he was one. Is Mbenza refusing to play for us?. I don't believe so. I cannot see any credible justification for the Club's treatment of him and he does right picking up his wages in my opinion. The club got clever extended his contract, granted he's paying for it not playing. If he had faith in himself and to get back to a level he played at, he would have gone, took the cut and gone and proven himself to earn another big move. Both parties have massive faults here. I'd rather take even half what we are paying, then go prove everyone wrong and get another big move. He hasn't chose that, so the club I suppose, right or wrong can deal with their fuck up as they please Totally accept your point re a Player potentially wanting to prove himself (and just want to play football as an adage), even if that means taking a pay cut. I think though it is easy on the outside looking in to just say you would happily take a significant pay cut (and so should he)...... I also agree that there appears to be faults on both sides. Anyway, we will see what transpires and would I prefer he moved on?, I would but whilst he is here, I would consider him for selection.
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Post by sapphireblue on Sept 1, 2021 20:10:00 GMT 1
No we can't, so he can't moan to be left to rot and train on his own with his big paycheck. Swings and roundabouts He's not moaning, you seem to be. [/quote] I'm not moaning, I really couldn't give a fuck if I'm honest. I just put my opinion across. Him picking up a paycheck at the spanners that run Towns expense, won't decide what alter my mood or how nice my tea tastes. Couldn't give a toss, sooner he's gone the better, should have been let go in the summer but here we are. [/quote] You make a damn good impression of moaning for someone not moaning, then. Good luck to the guy, a thoroughly nice guy too, I may add. Every time atm we get a free kick about 20-25 yards out, I wish he was on the pitch.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 1, 2021 21:09:00 GMT 1
To the black eyed peas tune.. I gotta feeeling.. It’s about time that you foooooked off.. Repeat.. 🍻 Do we sing this standing outside the gym windows when he's on the running machine? More importantly... are the windows double glazed?
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Post by blanquiazules on Sept 1, 2021 21:14:53 GMT 1
To the black eyed peas tune.. I gotta feeeling.. It’s about time that you foooooked off.. Repeat.. 🍻 Do we sing this standing outside the gym windows when he's on the running machine? More importantly... are the windows double glazed? I wouldn’t sing it thru his letterbox in case your forehead touches the door handle.
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Post by Dillinger on Sept 1, 2021 21:19:30 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed. Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault. Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season. Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished. I don't really ever begrudge a player for wanting to see his contract out, especially if he doesn't get any better offers. Besides as you say he did make a contribution last season.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 1, 2021 22:18:08 GMT 1
Just because we have had a few wins, my view on the treatment of Mbenza hasn't changed. Is he worth what we paid for him?, of course he isn't but that isn't his fault. Did I see a Player trying (and often succeeding) last season, I did. I believe he could also be very useful for us this season. Unless somebody can tell me, I have no idea what has changed or what he has supposedly done to deserve being banished. Good post Morley
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2021 23:21:42 GMT 1
To the black eyed peas tune.. I gotta feeeling.. It’s about time that you foooooked off.. Repeat.. 🍻 Do we sing this standing outside the gym windows when he's on the running machine? More importantly... are the windows double glazed? Mind you don't touch the door handles.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 2, 2021 2:08:51 GMT 1
My own personal favourite is:
BOOOOOOO!!!!
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 2, 2021 2:12:10 GMT 1
Refusing numerous moves this window, as stated by Maynard. Wanted off the wage bill, if he wanted to progress as a footballer he would move, he's shown he's here because his pay packet is nice and fat. That's a problem by them who gave him the contract, not wanting to move on comes across as a greedy twat. So yeah, he's a greedy twat, I can't be arsed with If I was told by my employer that I wasn’t required, even though I’m on a contract to age 55, and I couldn’t see a way of getting at least my current salary elsewhere, I’d politely reject the offer to leave. The contract was offered to me and they can stand by it. Why should sentiment come into it? Mbenza won’t have been offered a fraction of the salary he’s earning at Town, so why should he leave? Why should the fans be annoyed? If he’s got any sense, he’ll be squirrelling away every penny he can to help him the future. The Club can’t grumble either, they offered a contract that they considered acceptable, they did the maths before it was signed. And they took the option of another year! Fair play to Mbenza, he’s tried but it hasn’t worked out for him. We can’t expect him to say “forget the money”. Has he? Other than for a brief spell in the early part of last season the guy has seemed to be actively taking the piss for the entire duration of his stay here.
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Post by chinaski on Sept 2, 2021 6:41:11 GMT 1
Grossly underused and quite frankly fucked about since he joined us. No wonder he’s not willing to do us any favours.
He’s contributed with goals and assists practically every time he’s played, but then gets dropped and you don’t see him for god knows how long.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 2, 2021 6:57:30 GMT 1
I certainly wouldn't have frozen him out and I certainly wouldn't have extended his contract, both these are the club's doing. I would have released him at the end of his contract but the club made the crazy decision to extend, pound signs flashing in Phil's eyes, the decision to extend would have been Phil's alone, its certainly not a footballing decision.
That said he was OK last season and given our current up turn in form I certainly would have him involved in some capacity. The window has passed without him leaving and I'm almost certain that no one will sign him in January, so we might as well involve him again.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Sept 2, 2021 7:00:34 GMT 1
My God our little adventure in the Premier League came with some very harsh lessons.
I very much hope that we have learned from them, just in case we ever get a second chance.
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Post by pterrier on Sept 2, 2021 7:39:37 GMT 1
The situation is ultimately our fault, so many of you seem to be forgetting that WE renewed his contract (without Mbenza’s consent); if you don’t have plans for a player the just release him, no point gambling on scrapping an extra few quid when it could cost you significantly more in the long run.
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