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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 25, 2021 20:53:49 GMT 1
Surely bringing Sarr on up front with 7 minutes to go has to be an option? He would pose more of a goal threat than any of our "strikers" & he'd give CBs far more to worry about. Scoring as many goals as we have from set pieces so far is not sustainable over a season so we really do need to find a way of creating more from open play. We have to play the percentages of getting the ball up the pitch and into more dangerous areas, quicker and more often. The amount of play we have between the opposition 18 yard line and 30 yards out in relation to touches in the box is huge. Finding ways to score a goal rather than a dozen or more passes is not a dirty thing. Pearson, Lees, sarr, covil are a danger from balls into the box, any ball into the box is putting it into the danger area if there are a few attackers in there. Percentage balls are better than no balls, no pun intended.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 21:40:28 GMT 1
Surely bringing Sarr on up front with 7 minutes to go has to be an option? He would pose more of a goal threat than any of our "strikers" & he'd give CBs far more to worry about. Scoring as many goals as we have from set pieces so far is not sustainable over a season so we really do need to find a way of creating more from open play. We have to play the percentages of getting the ball up the pitch and into more dangerous areas, quicker and more often. The amount of play we have between the opposition 18 yard line and 30 yards out in relation to touches in the box is huge. Finding ways to score a goal rather than a dozen or more passes is not a dirty thing. Pearson, Lees, sarr, covil are a danger from balls into the box, any ball into the box is putting it into the danger area if there are a few attackers in there. Percentage balls are better than no balls, no pun intended. I think the injury to o brian is a bigger worry than the result doesn't sound good
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 25, 2021 21:42:39 GMT 1
I might be wrong on this but by my reckoning we have scored 7 goals from open play in 9 matches.
That simply isn’t good enough. We clearly lack a striker but struggle to create chances. At the start of last season we seemed to be able to play out from the back and fairly quickly move forwards and create chances. That has gone and it is hard to see where the goals are coming from sometimes.
Big reaction needed on Tuesday.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 25, 2021 22:13:13 GMT 1
I might be wrong on this but by my reckoning we have scored 7 goals from open play in 9 matches. That simply isn’t good enough. We clearly lack a striker but struggle to create chances. At the start of last season we seemed to be able to play out from the back and fairly quickly move forwards and create chances. That has gone and it is hard to see where the goals are coming from sometimes. Big reaction needed on Tuesday. Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward.
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Sept 25, 2021 22:23:15 GMT 1
Does anyone know why we need 2 players to take corners? This strange tactic robs us of a body in the box. Just a total waste of a player who should be in the box, it's bonkers, the only player who seems to score from our corners is Sarr and the lad from West Ham how much game time as he had.
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Post by ACW on Sept 25, 2021 22:52:30 GMT 1
Let's hope so. If only because my boss is a Leeds fan and is a complete twat. Always wonder why so many Town fans seem to be more concerned about Beeston's results than, Town performances & results - UTT. 99% of my 10,000+ posts are about Town. Never been more concerned about Leeds' results than our own.
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Post by captainblack on Sept 26, 2021 7:46:08 GMT 1
I might be wrong on this but by my reckoning we have scored 7 goals from open play in 9 matches. That simply isn’t good enough. We clearly lack a striker but struggle to create chances. At the start of last season we seemed to be able to play out from the back and fairly quickly move forwards and create chances. That has gone and it is hard to see where the goals are coming from sometimes. Big reaction needed on Tuesday. Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward. I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 26, 2021 7:58:49 GMT 1
Does anyone know why we need 2 players to take corners? This strange tactic robs us of a body in the box. Just a total waste of a player who should be in the box, it's bonkers, the only player who seems to score from our corners is Sarr and the lad from West Ham how much game time as he had. It usually brings out two defenders so I don’t mind it. Especially if the two players taking it are not going to be winning a header.
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Post by York Terrier on Sept 26, 2021 8:12:40 GMT 1
I might be wrong on this but by my reckoning we have scored 7 goals from open play in 9 matches. That simply isn’t good enough. We clearly lack a striker but struggle to create chances. At the start of last season we seemed to be able to play out from the back and fairly quickly move forwards and create chances. That has gone and it is hard to see where the goals are coming from sometimes. Big reaction needed on Tuesday. Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward. It’s not just a striker we need who has the ability to take the ball with his back to goal We desperately need a midfielder who can take the ball with his back to play, turn and make a forward run and pass. Every team knows we pass back all the time when trying to create space to play out from the back so they close the backwards pass down. We need to go long more often ( and quickly) to keep the other team guessing as we are far to predictable and easy to close down.
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 26, 2021 8:15:57 GMT 1
Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward. It’s not just a striker we need who has the ability to take the ball with his back to goal We desperately need a midfielder who can take the ball with his back to play, turn and make a forward run and pass. Every team knows we pass back all the time when trying to create space to play out from the back so they close the backwards pass down. We need to go long more often ( and quickly) to keep the other team guessing as we are far to predictable and easy to close down. Just like mooy? My brother and I have said it time and time again. Did we just get lucky that promotion year or are there gems out there waiting to be discovered? I was hoping sinani was the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 9:23:42 GMT 1
Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward. I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get.
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Post by artysid on Sept 26, 2021 9:43:58 GMT 1
I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. Do you think that the Club knew (to use your phrase) that Mipo was "not yet ready" but still signed him, or did they fail to see this?
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Post by malcolmbrown on Sept 26, 2021 9:55:45 GMT 1
No need to panic folks. I’ve only seen us once this season so far, Reading at home, and we did ok in that game and I’ll be there on Tuesday v Blackburn so we’re bound to win 😁. In all seriousness, we do appear to have a bit of the Jekyll & Hydes about us, pretty decent one week and clueless the next and on the weeks we are clueless, CC seems incapable of changing things around. If I'd only seen the Reading game I wouldn't be panicking. It's the other shit games that worry me.
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Post by ram on Sept 26, 2021 10:14:24 GMT 1
We remain 7th,how I have no idea! We are slowly grinding our way back to our usual negative goal difference,the folk with the purse strings continually refuse to acquire a decent striker relying instead of youngsters on loan and has-beens.Very shortly we will drift back to our usual position in the division.If fans can see this,why can't the Owners??😚
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Post by dugnet on Sept 26, 2021 10:20:36 GMT 1
I can't comment on a game I didn't see but no shots on target, again, tells a story.
Our lack of a controlling playmaker and a credible striker (which we all would pretty much agree hasn't been addressed) is the real problem. Consequently Carlos reverts to a risk averse game of chess in the hope we can pinch a result (such as against Sheffield United).
If we agree that our defence is stronger, which I think it is, then he has to find away to be braver, play higher up the pitch and give the opposition more to think about. At the moment this "rope a dope" approach isn't any good if you don't carry a threat or get your more dangerous players in the game.
I never thought we'd turned a corner completely despite a couple of good results. Those who thought we would be play off material were, in my view, wildly optimistic. I do think we have enough to be comfortable low mid table but a few more performances and results like the last two games will see us with a challenge. The last two games suggest that Carlos, and ultimately the teams', mindset is about not losing first. Carlos needs to find more positivity and a way of playing that builds on the better performances.
Two big games this week now. One against a team in form and one that is notoriously tricky. It's an opportunity to step up or questions will undoubtedly be asked about where we go next.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 10:43:40 GMT 1
The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. Do you think that the Club knew (to use your phrase) that Mipo was "not yet ready" but still signed him, or did they fail to see this? Yes I do think the club knew it was 'not yet ready Mipo', but there are two aspects to that. Not ready short term, as in all players take time to up their fitness & familiarity with training & style of play; and not yet ready developmentally, which is stepping up to men's football and his developing skill set. I have know idea where the club see him across those considerations, but the first is typically a 1 to 2 months, the second could be half a season or more.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 26, 2021 10:55:38 GMT 1
I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. But this isn’t a new problem Steve. We have had this problem for a long time - we attempted to solve this with Sanogo and had the entire transfer window to solve the problem. Whilst overall, we had a successful window, this was a key problem that we can all see needed to be solved. From the little I’ve seen of Mipo, he doesn’t look to have the build required to play this role - though he may well become a better option than Danny Ward.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 26, 2021 10:57:10 GMT 1
Think about absolutely every other team in the Championship. Every single one of them has a “proper “ striker leading their front line. Someone who has the ability to play with his back to goal and challenge for headers from crosses etc. This is what we miss and why we are so poor going forward. I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. A “Grant Holt” type is a great example.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 10:58:15 GMT 1
The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. But this isn’t a new problem Steve. We have had this problem for a long time - we attempted to solve this with Sanogo and had the entire transfer window to solve the problem. Whilst overall, we had a successful window, this was a key problem that we can all see needed to be solved. From the little I’ve seen of Mipo, he doesn’t look to have the build required to play this role - though he may well become a better option than Danny Ward. That's why I said, nearest they could get.
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Post by mosher on Sept 26, 2021 11:16:31 GMT 1
Some right pillocks about, including the msm feeding the paranoia of the thick! Queue for petrol at Morrison's in Hecky was past the roundabout, they even had to get a member of staff to show the thick gullible twats HOW to queue! Sometimes I'm SO happy I walk everywhere! Give it a few days till everyone else has filled up, pumps will be empty then.
Yep, mam says Morrisons out of petrol today!!!!
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Post by finnmurphy1 on Sept 26, 2021 11:39:59 GMT 1
The main issue yesterday (and the previous game against Forest) was the ridiculously slow ponderous start we made to the game. 2 sides who’ve had difficult periods and we basically handed the initiative to them from the first minute. Carlos seems obsessed by (and hides behind) the technical aspect of the game. The fundamentals are playing with intent, aggression and possess a willingness to take the game to the opposition. We have proved lacking it those areas too many times under him.
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Post by captainblack on Sept 26, 2021 11:48:31 GMT 1
I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. I am not trying to bash the club Steve , but we have managed to sign DW & JR ,both on long contracts , I am not knocking either one, but in my opinion neither of these strikers is the type of striker which we needed . I would add that I would be extremely happy if DW & JR , both started scoring regularly .
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Post by Kenny irons on Sept 26, 2021 12:01:57 GMT 1
I'd like to see us try
Thomas rw Mipo st Koroma lw Homes cam just behind them.
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Post by crux on Sept 26, 2021 12:30:41 GMT 1
The main issue yesterday (and the previous game against Forest) was the ridiculously slow ponderous start we made to the game. 2 sides who’ve had difficult periods and we basically handed the initiative to them from the first minute. Carlos seems obsessed by (and hides behind) the technical aspect of the game. The fundamentals are playing with intent, aggression and possess a willingness to take the game to the opposition. We have proved lacking it those areas too many times under him. This sums it up perfectly.
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Post by griffa on Sept 26, 2021 12:46:58 GMT 1
I completely agree Overton, what I don't understand is that a halfwit supporter like myself can see we are missing that "Grant Holt" type striker , yet the club cannot. Possibly Mipo will be the answer , he has not had much of an opportunity to prove himself yet , lets hope he can get a couple of goals and really boost his confidence. A “Grant Holt” type is a great example. Jordan Hugill would have been a good fit for us, perhaps his wage demands, would have been too high for Town's budget!
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Sept 26, 2021 12:47:57 GMT 1
As a team we are crying out for a traditional centre forward and we have been for many a year. Until the leaders in the club accept this we will continue to struggle against relegation. What a difference Grant Hold made when he arrive all those years ago. I fear it is something connected to Hoyle why we don't embrace such an important position in the English game. Ever since Hoyle was involved we have moved away from signing such a striker. We did have small windows of hope but these soon turned to ashes with injuries etc. The bottom line is: get a striker balance the team! We are not Spain circa 2008-2012.
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Post by griffa on Sept 26, 2021 13:03:22 GMT 1
As a team we are crying out for a traditional centre forward and we have been for many a year. Until the leaders in the club accept this we will continue to struggle against relegation. What a difference Grant Hold made when he arrive all those years ago. I fear it is something connected to Hoyle why we don't embrace such an important position in the English game. Ever since Hoyle was involved we have moved away from signing such a striker. We did have small windows of hope but these soon turned to ashes with injuries etc. The bottom line is: get a striker balance the team! We are not Spain circa 2008-2012. Totally agree re a striker, we'll never sign that type of player, while Carlos is our manager - UTT.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 13:12:31 GMT 1
The problem might be that your 'halfwit' thinks the club don't see, whereas in reality they already have tried to source such players, but without success yet, hence the loan of not ready Mipo - the nearest they could get. I am not trying to bash the club Steve , but we have managed to sign DW & JR ,both on long contracts , I am not knocking either one, but in my opinion neither of these strikers is the type of striker which we needed . I would add that I would be extremely happy if DW & JR , both started scoring regularly . They can only sign the availabile strikers that fit the budget, and they tried, but one went to Luton instead. If we all paid Sheff Weds season ticket prices we might sign their level of players, and end up where they are. Oh hang on a minute??? Perhaps Town are not doing that bad in the grand scheme of things, but there's always hope for better.
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Post by bobrobterrier on Sept 26, 2021 13:58:41 GMT 1
Sorba great at wing back and what does he do? Change it. Why!? Sooner Pipa is back the better also. Hopefully we can bounce back on Tuesday.
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Post by bogart on Sept 26, 2021 17:32:07 GMT 1
CC interview 7 mins of waffle. I would have thought they would have stayed overnight not gone down on the day. Still no excuse.
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