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Post by melbourneterrier on May 10, 2022 5:44:34 GMT 1
Obviously the loans of Colwill, Anjorin and Sinani will come to an end. We have an option to buy Sinani
Other than those, the following are also off-contract
Josh Koroma
Harry Toffolo
Naby Sarr
Jamal Blackman
Fraizer Campbell
Alex Vallejo
Who do we think will stay, or go?
If get promoted, the only one I'd like to see stay really from that lot would be Toffolo
If we don't go up, I'd like for us to keep Toffolo (although I'd be surprised he doesn't go to a PL club), Sarr and possibly Blackman.
I think we've seen the end of Koroma regardless of what we do, he seems to have lost his way this season after a standout season last time. Campbell can barely make a match day squad this season, let alone get on the pitch. Always gives 110%. Vallejo has I guess, in essence been replaced by Russell (especially given Hoggs flexibility to cover CB)
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 10, 2022 7:36:19 GMT 1
Obviously the loans of Colwill, Anjorin and Sinani will come to an end. We have an option to buy Sinani Other than those, the following are also off-contract Josh Koroma Harry Toffolo Naby Sarr Jamal Blackman Fraizer Campbell Alex Vallejo Who do we think will stay, or go? If get promoted, the only one I'd like to see stay really from that lot would be Toffolo If we don't go up, I'd like for us to keep Toffolo (although I'd be surprised he doesn't go to a PL club), Sarr and possibly Blackman. I think we've seen the end of Koroma regardless of what we do, he seems to have lost his way this season after a standout season last time. Campbell can barely make a match day squad this season, let alone get on the pitch. Always gives 110%. Vallejo has I guess, in essence been replaced by Russell (especially given Hoggs flexibility to cover CB) Not sure whether we have an option for a year with Koroma, if we do, I’d exercise the option and sell if he won’t extend his contract. Toffolo does have an option and would exercise and sell if he doesn’t extend, unless we are in the PL without a really decent offer for him, I’d let him run it down because he will be good enough for us in the PL and we can’t afford to buy 11 players. Not sure about Blackman, seems good enough as a backup in the Championship. If we are in the PL I’d go out and get better. Sarr isn’t good enough for the PL but depends on how much depth we can get at CB and if we need a locker room general to keep spirits up. For the championship, if he wants to play second fiddle then I’m more than happy for him to stay. The rest can leave. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on May 10, 2022 7:53:59 GMT 1
Obviously the loans of Colwill, Anjorin and Sinani will come to an end. We have an option to buy Sinani Other than those, the following are also off-contract Josh Koroma Harry Toffolo Naby Sarr Jamal Blackman Fraizer Campbell Alex Vallejo Who do we think will stay, or go? If get promoted, the only one I'd like to see stay really from that lot would be Toffolo If we don't go up, I'd like for us to keep Toffolo (although I'd be surprised he doesn't go to a PL club), Sarr and possibly Blackman. I think we've seen the end of Koroma regardless of what we do, he seems to have lost his way this season after a standout season last time. Campbell can barely make a match day squad this season, let alone get on the pitch. Always gives 110%. Vallejo has I guess, in essence been replaced by Russell (especially given Hoggs flexibility to cover CB) Not sure whether we have an option for a year with Koroma, if we do, I’d exercise the option and sell if he won’t extend his contract. Toffolo does have an option and would exercise and sell if he doesn’t extend, unless we are in the PL without a really decent offer for him, I’d let him run it down because he will be good enough for us in the PL and we can’t afford to buy 11 players. Not sure about Blackman, seems good enough as a backup in the Championship. If we are in the PL I’d go out and get better. Sarr isn’t good enough for the PL but depends on how much depth we can get at CB and if we need a locker room general to keep spirits up. For the championship, if he wants to play second fiddle then I’m more than happy for him to stay. The rest can leave. Sounds about right that lot - although I think Naby may want to leave even if we offer him a deal - he's 28 and will probably want to be more than 'back up' somewhere. Feels like Town have messed up with the Toff contract negotiations. He clearly wants to stay - and there can't have been too much between what we offered and what he wanted but, with the season he's had, he's suddenly in a really strong position. I imagine he could treble his wages - probably more - even moving to another Championship club. It's certainly going to cost us now to extend his deal beyond a year. Good luck to the guy whatever the outcome. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on May 10, 2022 8:06:21 GMT 1
Not sure whether we have an option for a year with Koroma, if we do, I’d exercise the option and sell if he won’t extend his contract. Toffolo does have an option and would exercise and sell if he doesn’t extend, unless we are in the PL without a really decent offer for him, I’d let him run it down because he will be good enough for us in the PL and we can’t afford to buy 11 players. Not sure about Blackman, seems good enough as a backup in the Championship. If we are in the PL I’d go out and get better. Sarr isn’t good enough for the PL but depends on how much depth we can get at CB and if we need a locker room general to keep spirits up. For the championship, if he wants to play second fiddle then I’m more than happy for him to stay. The rest can leave. Sounds about right that lot - although I think Naby may want to leave even if we offer him a deal - he's 28 and will probably want to be more than 'back up' somewhere. Feels like Town have messed up with the Toff contract negotiations. He clearly wants to stay - and there can't have been too much between what we offered and what he wanted but, with the season he's had, he's suddenly in a really strong position. I imagine he could treble his wages - probably more - even moving to another Championship club. It's certainly going to cost us now to extend his deal beyond a year. Good luck to the guy whatever the outcome. Yeah Toff is in a great position. For him, at worst he goes into the last year of his contract playing in the PL or becomes an in demand free agent. I don’t know the behind the scenes, but from the outside the club has messed this one up if he wasn’t asking for stupid money. |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 10, 2022 11:24:31 GMT 1
I get the impression town are waiting to see what division we're in before sorting Toffolo out. He's clearly settled, and we have a unilateral option. Wouldn't be a heap of point in extending on better terms, only for us to get promoted and have him rightfully want to renegotiate.
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Post by Tinpot on May 10, 2022 13:47:41 GMT 1
Campbell's age has caught up with him. Regardless of which division we're in we should release him. Only exception is if there's a non-playing role at the club - be it coaching, community outreach or something like that. Replace with another - younger - striker.
Vallejo's injury record is a concern. Release & replace with another DCM.
Eiting - I rate him very highly, but the emergence of Jon Russell means he'd probably be better off going elsewhere for the sake of his own career.
The rest I'd quite like to keep, although Sarr might want to move on to get more regular football.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 10, 2022 23:27:10 GMT 1
The longer a player sits on his old contract the more I think they’re going to leave. Toffolo could have had a whole season on possibly double the money he’s on now. So whichever way you look at it, he’s going to make this year count.
I don’t think players like Toffolo come around very often, I’d give him whatever O’Brien is on. You don’t let players like that leave the club without pulling out all the stops.
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 11, 2022 1:33:36 GMT 1
Forgot to add Eiting in the post, oops.
I'd suspect he'd be off. Can't see him being too happy being back up. He probably expected more game time, but as someone mentioned, the emergence of Russell has meant his opportunities have been limited.
I'm not even sure if we'd keep Sinani either, although I suspect we will
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on May 11, 2022 19:38:00 GMT 1
Could be wrong but I suspect Toffolo would be after more money than we'd want to pay him in the Championship.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 12, 2022 3:49:12 GMT 1
We got Toffolo on the cheap because he was running his contract down. Same for Nahki, and the same is happening again to us.
Just have to accept that it’s the way these players and their agents have decided to play it. And they’re well within their rights. Good luck to them, as long as they do the business for us while they’re here you can’t fault it.
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Post by alexdire on May 12, 2022 7:41:19 GMT 1
The talk about Tofolo and Koroma's contract talks. Hasn't taken into account the state of the club. For a good while who would their representatives negotiate with?
The other obvious thing is the promotion issue. Which will delay any offers until we know what division we are in.
If we don't go up. I expect both to have the extra year taken up. Then they'll be sold to get as much money in as possible.
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Post by alexdire on May 12, 2022 7:43:11 GMT 1
Forgot to add Eiting in the post, oops. I'd suspect he'd be off. Can't see him being too happy being back up. He probably expected more game time, but as someone mentioned, the emergence of Russell has meant his opportunities have been limited. I'm not even sure if we'd keep Sinani either, although I suspect we will If we don't go up O'Brien will be sold pretty quickly. So maybe Eiting won't be back up then? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 12, 2022 11:22:24 GMT 1
Forgot to add Eiting in the post, oops. I'd suspect he'd be off. Can't see him being too happy being back up. He probably expected more game time, but as someone mentioned, the emergence of Russell has meant his opportunities have been limited. I'm not even sure if we'd keep Sinani either, although I suspect we will If we don't go up O'Brien will be sold pretty quickly. So maybe Eiting won't be back up then? They're not really that similar, so I'm not sure the two events are particularly linked. |
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Post by positive plus + pompous on May 15, 2022 15:17:52 GMT 1
Pretty sure they could agree a clause in the contracts that give an increase if we get promoted.
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Post by Tinpot on May 17, 2022 13:32:29 GMT 1
Naby Sarr's tweet suggests he's moving on after the final.
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