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Post by Metch on Sept 19, 2022 12:31:03 GMT 1
Interesting in Pelach's interview last week he said "when Carlos left I decided to stay with the club and not to go with him". Go where exactly? He just left the club because he didn't think he could repeat last season didn't he? What a load of bollocks. That phrasing tells me Carlos already knew where he was going when he left - and why did the other Spanish guy up and leave too? "Yeah Carlos, I'll just pack in my job too and have no job with you". You could just as easily say why the heck did Pelach stay then if he knew he had a chance to go to Olympiacos? I think he answered that when he said he wanted to work under a different manager to gain experience. Perhaps he does feel settled here too and not too keen on moussaka.
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Post by leroy212 on Sept 19, 2022 12:33:16 GMT 1
Reading between the lines from what came out after his resignation, I think Carlos' contract was a lot more generous in that respect and offered the club little protection, compared to Cooper's and most other manager contracts. Yeah I thought that too. For all the good PH did it sounds like Carlos’ contract was a bit naive regarding compensation and getting tapped up. bet phil dint expect carlos to get tapped up
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 19, 2022 12:36:36 GMT 1
You could just as easily say why the heck did Pelach stay then if he knew he had a chance to go to Olympiacos? I think he answered that when he said he wanted to work under a different manager to gain experience. Perhaps he does feel settled here too and not too keen on moussaka. Maybe Carlos was offered a lifetime supply of Moussaka and Gyros. Quite tempting really…
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Post by irverino on Sept 19, 2022 12:46:14 GMT 1
You could just as easily say why the heck did Pelach stay then if he knew he had a chance to go to Olympiacos? I think he answered that when he said he wanted to work under a different manager to gain experience. Perhaps he does feel settled here too and not too keen on moussaka. Made right choice staying put, would be out of a job now........Oh yeh & working for big bad Dean too!
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Post by ritchie on Sept 19, 2022 13:10:47 GMT 1
Interesting in Pelach's interview last week he said "when Carlos left I decided to stay with the club and not to leave with him".Go where exactly? He just left the club because he didn't think he could repeat last season didn't he? What a load of bollocks. That phrasing tells me Carlos already knew where he was going when he left - and why did the other Spanish guy up and leave too? "Yeah Carlos, I'll just pack in my job too and have no job with you". Go = leave Think you are reading too much into it. Carlos wasnt tapped up from everything ive heard. He'd turned down a job. Think he simply left and took the next opportunity I would have him back in theory (ability) but not in practise. Fan base would be split and he would be a wounded animal from the start.
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Post by ritchie on Sept 19, 2022 13:20:40 GMT 1
The best point made around Carlos is as somebody said to me on Saturday. The Club stood by him when it was something like 4 wins out of 27 matches. A record that would see almost every Manager sacked. He quickly forgot that and a little bit of success (sort of) and he couldn’t care less about the Club. The timing was appalling. Timing that also means Danny Schofield is no longer part of the coaching set-up. I am sure Danny would have done well for us had this not arrived too soon. And that’s on you Corberan, not Hoyle, not Bromby. The succession plan was there and the Club honoured it. I cannot stand Corberan whatsoever and hope he disappears in to the Spanish third division.. Based on what
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2022 13:21:46 GMT 1
Some very strange and bitter people on here, but then again that's nothing new is it. Let's clear up a few things shall we? 'He left us after we showed faith in him' Yes we went through a torrid period in the 2nd half of his first season here, but he had arguably earned the good will after an impressive first half, and any manager in any division would have seen their efforts severely hampered with 7 simultaneous first team injuries. In addition to that, it was Hodgkinson who stuck by him, not Hoyle, who would have unquestionably sacked him, and deprived of us the fantastic season to come. 'He put us in this mess' No, he didn't. This mess lies on the shoulders of one man, the same man who refused to build a working relationship with Carlos when he returned to the club, the same man who refused to show the same kind of faith that the Fans and Phil Hodgkinson had been rewarded for showing, the same man who not only failed in his remit to progress the club as far as possible, but actively prevented it by refusing to support the man who had the tools to do the job. Ask yourself this, would Corberan have left had Hodgkinson not earlier been forced to leave? '(Insert inane conspiracy theory here)' Can't believe this needs stating again but anyway... There was no conspiracy, no 'bung', no tapping up, no betrayal, just nothing of the sort. Just simply a complete breakdown in communication, cooperation and vision, between a boss and his employee, and said employee chose to no longer work for that boss. If you have trouble accepting that fact, look at Maynard's reactions to other posts on the same matter. Carlos would have left as PH hadn't the resources to back him. I doubt we would have spent as much as we did this window if PH was still here. For all Hoyle faults I don't see how you can think things would be different under PH. As he was PH's man, I think that his thoughts would have been given more consideration, whether or not this would have been enough to make him stay we will never know.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 19, 2022 13:23:17 GMT 1
You could just as easily say why the heck did Pelach stay then if he knew he had a chance to go to Olympiacos? I think he answered that when he said he wanted to work under a different manager to gain experience. Perhaps he does feel settled here too and not too keen on moussaka. African player?
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Post by aca00js on Sept 19, 2022 13:40:36 GMT 1
Carlos would have left as PH hadn't the resources to back him. I doubt we would have spent as much as we did this window if PH was still here. For all Hoyle faults I don't see how you can think things would be different under PH. As he was PH's man, I think that his thoughts would have been given more consideration, whether or not this would have been enough to make him stay we will never know. Carlos wanted financial backing we are led to believe and PH didn't have those resources so I don't see how things would be different. I'm not surprised he left as I don't see how he could go that step further with what resources were available to him. He should have just gone after the play off final and not left so close to the start of the season in the mess we found ourselves in.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Sept 19, 2022 13:49:03 GMT 1
OFFICIAL: Carlos Corberán has just been dismissed as coach of Olympiacos ; has been heavily criticized for lack of in-game ideas and weird lineup changes
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Post by benhomly on Sept 19, 2022 14:02:59 GMT 1
As he was PH's man, I think that his thoughts would have been given more consideration, whether or not this would have been enough to make him stay we will never know. Carlos wanted financial backing we are led to believe and PH didn't have those resources so I don't see how things would be different. I'm not surprised he left as I don't see how he could go that step further with what resources were available to him. He should have just gone after the play off final and not left so close to the start of the season in the mess we found ourselves in. Or judging by the comments on the post below yours (gone due to lack of in-game ideas and weird line-up changes) maybe he should have stuck around and tried again rather than having ideas above his station?
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Post by goodbet on Sept 19, 2022 14:07:50 GMT 1
As he was PH's man, I think that his thoughts would have been given more consideration, whether or not this would have been enough to make him stay we will never know. Carlos wanted financial backing we are led to believe and PH didn't have those resources so I don't see how things would be different.I'm not surprised he left as I don't see how he could go that step further with what resources were available to him. He should have just gone after the play off final and not left so close to the start of the season in the mess we found ourselves in. We can only guess that whatever the resources we had may have been spent on different targets. I don't think that the players would have been as half hearted and listless as they were for Danny.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 19, 2022 14:09:21 GMT 1
S-acked A-nd C-orberan’s K-arma E-arned D-ismissal
Not happy the way you dumped Huddy Town so late in the close season Carlos - but very grateful for the fantastic season you gave HTAFC in season 2021/22 !
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Post by impact on Sept 19, 2022 14:29:47 GMT 1
Nathan Jones quit Luton for Stoke, pretty much alienating himself from the club and fanbase in the process. Stoke sacked Jones as their overpaid primadonnas couldn't and wouldn't throw themselves into his system and beliefs. Luton, partly due to Jones having quit, were looking odds on for relegation. They needed a new manager. Against an anti-Jones backlash, Luton appointed Jones. Jones kept them up and then reached play offs the following season and won Manager of Season. Not saying I want Carlos back, but there are parallels there. Jones left whilst still at Luton, allowing Luton to claim compensation. He didn't resign when pre-season was underway screwing everything up rather than going before. He didn't claim it was to do with a lack of investment then rock up at another club 2 weeks later. He didn't join a club owned by the guy who'd just beaten him in the play-off final with very questionable timing. It isn't just him leaving, it's the way he did. I don't want him anywhere near our club again. He can't be trusted.
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Post by OneDarrenBullock on Sept 19, 2022 14:45:48 GMT 1
S-acked A-nd C-orberan’s K-arma E-arned D-ismissal Not happy the way you dumped Huddy Town so late in the close season Carlos - but very grateful for the fantastic season you gave HTAFC in season 2021/22 ! Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Sept 19, 2022 14:59:10 GMT 1
His tactical ability last season was without a doubt the best I've seen from any Town manager/head coach. Even so, regardless of which of the many, many reasons given for his departure from this forum, I cannot see him coming back. Stranger things have definitely happened though.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 19, 2022 15:04:48 GMT 1
You could just as easily say why the heck did Pelach stay then if he knew he had a chance to go to Olympiacos? I think he answered that when he said he wanted to work under a different manager to gain experience. Perhaps he does feel settled here too and not too keen on moussaka.That's because he's never tried mine.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 19, 2022 15:05:37 GMT 1
S-acked A-nd C-orberan’s K-arma E-arned D-ismissal Not happy the way you dumped Huddy Town so late in the close season Carlos - but very grateful for the fantastic season you gave HTAFC in season 2021/22 ! Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍 I think Westie can have a pass, surely?
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 19, 2022 15:11:42 GMT 1
OFFICIAL: Carlos Corberán has just been dismissed as coach of Olympiacos ; has been heavily criticized for lack of in-game ideas and weird lineup changes How sad do you have to be to share your own tweets on here? Not to mention that it's about as funny as an aneurism.
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 19, 2022 15:17:01 GMT 1
S-acked A-nd C-orberan’s K-arma E-arned D-ismissal Not happy the way you dumped Huddy Town so late in the close season Carlos - but very grateful for the fantastic season you gave HTAFC in season 2021/22 ! Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍 Bit harsh. No point in stealing jam from the donut of someone who is obviously a loyal and distant terrier.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 19, 2022 15:19:03 GMT 1
His tactical ability last season was without a doubt the best I've seen from any Town manager/head coach. Even so, regardless of which of the many, many reasons given for his departure from this forum, I cannot see him coming back. Stranger things have definitely happened though. Won't happen, he was never Hoyles man.
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Post by Metch on Sept 19, 2022 15:46:06 GMT 1
His tactical ability last season was without a doubt the best I've seen from any Town manager/head coach. Even so, regardless of which of the many, many reasons given for his departure from this forum, I cannot see him coming back. Stranger things have definitely happened though. Won't happen, he was never Hoyles man. Exactly, the one thing you can gauge from the summer is that Hoyle didn't have a close relationship with Corberan.
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Post by OneDarrenBullock on Sept 19, 2022 16:17:02 GMT 1
Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍 I think Westie can have a pass, surely? Absolutely not. He's the only offender and it's not his first warning. I like the guy (shite puns excepted) but come on. It's not acceptable.
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Post by OneDarrenBullock on Sept 19, 2022 16:26:56 GMT 1
Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍 Bit harsh. No point in stealing jam from the donut of someone who is obviously a loyal and distant terrier. I'm not questioning Westy's integrity as a town fan. It's more a point of order. We are not "Huddy Town". If I decided to start supporting Hamilton Academical (as a random example) I wouldn't go on their forum referring to them as "Hammy" unless that was already an established nickname of the club (which it well might be?). I would certainly not continue to refer to them as "Hammy" on their forum having already been taken to task on my misnomer by other poster(s). To clarify, no offence intended to Westy. He's just got it very, very wrong.
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Post by hantstownexile on Sept 19, 2022 16:50:09 GMT 1
Just out of interest. Does Carlos get a legalised pay off now? From the owner the Greek/Forest clubs. If so, it stinks. I hope not,but cannot get my head around all this without thinking its a legalised bung. I find it all very strange how things have panned out since before the play off, never mind after. Or am I just over thinking? TTID
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Sept 19, 2022 17:02:17 GMT 1
Just out of interest. Does Carlos get a legalised pay off now? From the owner the Greek/Forest clubs. If so, it stinks. I hope not,but cannot get my head around all this without thinking its a legalised bung. I find it all very strange how things have panned out since before the play off, never mind after. Or am I just over thinking? TTID I'm in favour of anything that has a negative effect on Marianakis's net worth. Fine work, agent Carlos!
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 19, 2022 17:03:55 GMT 1
Won't happen, he was never Hoyles man. Exactly, the one thing you can gauge from the summer is that Hoyle didn't have a close relationship with Corberan. Do we know if anyone had a close relationship with Carlos at the club? Maybe he doesn’t operate that way. It is not always a one way street.
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Post by est1908 on Sept 19, 2022 17:09:02 GMT 1
I think Westie can have a pass, surely? Absolutely not. He's the only offender and it's not his first warning. I like the guy (shite puns excepted) but come on. I t's not acceptable. OOOO get you! Westie or anybody else, can refer to us however they want....
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Sept 19, 2022 17:17:23 GMT 1
S-acked A-nd C-orberan’s K-arma E-arned D-ismissal Not happy the way you dumped Huddy Town so late in the close season Carlos - but very grateful for the fantastic season you gave HTAFC in season 2021/22 ! Please stop that. It's "Town", "Hudders" or "The Terriers". It's not ever Huddy Town. Ever. Thanks 👍 Using "Hudders" is like fully-grown blokes who say 'goalie'. Similar, referring to Town as "The Terriers" is normally used by the same bloke who says he's off to the 'footie'. Let he who is without sin, eh?
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Post by blue1003 on Sept 19, 2022 17:34:49 GMT 1
I think Westie can have a pass, surely? Absolutely not. He's the only offender and it's not his first warning. I like the guy (shite puns excepted) but come on. It's not acceptable. Westie’s idiosyncratic style of expression brings something different to DATM and enriches discussion within the HTFC family of support. Long may he continue to contribute. Most of us would, I think, miss him if he decided not to bother.
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