Left back

[tepidterrier]

The impression I'm getting is that we're holding off til January to get a new left back, giving Ruffels time to see if he can settle in at this level as Turton did. I believe his contract's up this year as well?

[allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF)]

Aug 17, 2022 8:58:41 GMT 1 @yorkterrier123 said:

We need a centre mid, centre back and left back urgently. Unfortunately we have a chairman who won't support this therefore its just accept bottom half/potential relegation.

  

[dezzly]

Aug 18, 2022 13:59:19 GMT 1 tepidterrier said:

The impression I'm getting is that we're holding off til January to get a new left back, giving Ruffels time to see if he can settle in at this level as Turton did. I believe his contract's up this year as well?

Nakayama been said he’s more left centre half or left back rather than a wing back,obviously early days but you would think he has the qualities to play at wing back potentially too.he looks very decent on the ball has a good left peg would just be the engine in question.maybe if we looked to shift him out there possibly?
It seemed we wanted to start the season with a four at the back and if all personnel available guess he would have been left back.As it was he missed the first games as lack of friendly game time and then by the time featured was obvious many of the rest of the team were more comfortable with 3-4-3 and defending as a 5-4-1
Long story short guess always the option if we can’t find the right lwb that he could move out there…guess would be dependent on getting in another centre half though as things stand.

[Waterloo Terrier]

Aug 18, 2022 13:59:19 GMT 1 tepidterrier said:

The impression I'm getting is that we're holding off til January to get a new left back, giving Ruffels time to see if he can settle in at this level as Turton did. I believe his contract's up this year as well?

Not sure you can do that. When we got relegated teams just used to hammer Flo’s side because he didn’t bother defending, now they are doing the same to Ruffles’ side. Going on recent games it’s the single biggest problem we have.

[Headless Chicken]

I'm fairly comfortable with Ruffels as back-up, because unless you have a crazy budget you can't expect second choice to be 100% Championship standard. He didn't have to play that much last year and only had one noticeably bad game.

First choice, hmmmm, that's another thing.

I'm wondering if he was initially seen as back-up to Yuta, but Yuta's now ended up as LCB (where I strongly suspect he's best suited!).

Anyway, not gonna get on his back regardless.

[dezzly]

Aug 18, 2022 19:15:56 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

I'm fairly comfortable with Ruffels as back-up, because unless you have a crazy budget you can't expect second choice to be 100% Championship standard. He didn't have to play that much last year and only had one noticeably bad game.

First choice, hmmmm, that's another thing.

I'm wondering if he was initially seen as back-up to Yuta, but Yuta's now ended up as LCB (where I strongly suspect he's best suited!).

Anyway, not gonna get on his back regardless.

Think your 100% on yuta,ideally club saw him as toffolo replacement(my opinion) with the intention to go back to a back 4.
With ds making tweaks to how we press(higher excluding understandably the Norwich game)the 4-2-3-1 highlighted many current players failings.most notably Jon Russel and Tom lees.ds has had to revert to the 3-4-3 which effectively without the ball is a 5-4-1 and even leave out 1 of those two to make it more comfortable for the players currently available.
I strongly suspect the plan maybe to go back to tje 4-2-3-1 and play yuta at fullback however a lot may hang on getting kasumu back fit,he’s probably the only one in the squad who can cover anywhere near the distances Lewis did.
Problem is will he play enough.If he doesn’t with ruffels struggles yuta maybe asked to play lwb and we go back again to the 3-4-3.
Obviously all my own opinion.
One last thing noticed,a lot of teams last year played a 3 at the back,it’s notable that a lot of teams this are playing a 4.

[arry11]

Aug 17, 2022 8:58:41 GMT 1 @yorkterrier123 said:

We need a centre mid, centre back and left back urgently. Unfortunately we have a chairman who won't support this therefore its just accept bottom half/potential relegation.

So who the hell is propping the club up with his money

[duncfost01]

Aug 19, 2022 16:55:13 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 17, 2022 8:58:41 GMT 1 @yorkterrier123 said:

We need a centre mid, centre back and left back urgently. Unfortunately we have a chairman who won't support this therefore its just accept bottom half/potential relegation.

So who the hell is propping the club up with his money

Dean took us on the ride and he has decided the ride is over. Yes it’s his money. Hopefully he buys the club and sells it quickly. Watching other clubs with momentum, when we have none is depressing.

We are in trouble, this is a poor squad, and please feel free to quote this when we are in the playoffs. Won’t happen.

To those forum members that refer to me as a “tit” or “know where I live”, isnt this a fans forum where you free to voice and opinion ?

Also I’ve never hid my identity or called myself a fake name like some.

Yes I post dramatically when I’m pissed off. End of the day I’ve supported town for over 50 years.

UTT.

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 16:34:27 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Aug 19, 2022 16:55:13 GMT 1 arry11 said:

So who the hell is propping the club up with his money

Dean took us on the ride and he has decided the ride is over. Yes it’s his money. Hopefully he buys the club and sells it quickly. Watching other clubs with momentum, when we have none is depressing.

We are in trouble, this is a poor squad, and please feel free to quote this when we are in the playoffs. Won’t happen.

To those forum members that refer to me as a “tit” or “know where I live”, isnt this a fans forum where you free to voice and opinion ?

Also I’ve never hid my identity or called myself a fake name like some.

Yes I post dramatically when I’m pissed off. End of the day I’ve supported town for over 50 years.

UTT.

The problem is we have large overheads and reluctant backers to maintain our progress in this league. Finding someone to take over the helm will be pretty low. DH is at least holding the club together for now.

[duncfost01]

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 19:25:06 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

We are still running the the club and backroom staff at Premier league quality.

[Melc]

Aug 22, 2022 19:50:19 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 22, 2022 19:25:06 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

We are still running the the club and backroom staff at Premier league quality.

Strange how we now have the lowest wage bill since our return to the championship 10 years ago.

We averaged a wage bill up to our promotion season around £13.1m. Our promotion season was £16.4 with I presume includes bonuses.

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 20:11:23 GMT 1 Melc said:

Aug 22, 2022 19:50:19 GMT 1 arry11 said:

We are still running the the club and backroom staff at Premier league quality.

Strange how we now have the lowest wage bill since our return to the championship 10 years ago.

We averaged a wage bill up to our promotion season around £13.1m. Our promotion season was £16.4 with I presume includes bonuses.
And we were losing 5M a season in the third tear. Pretty sure our overheads will be far greater now given our top flight status a few seasons back.

[Melc]

Aug 22, 2022 20:22:40 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 22, 2022 20:11:23 GMT 1 Melc said:

Strange how we now have the lowest wage bill since our return to the championship 10 years ago.

We averaged a wage bill up to our promotion season around £13.1m. Our promotion season was £16.4 with I presume includes bonuses.
And we were losing 5M a season in the third tear. Pretty sure our overheads will be far greater now given our top flight status a few seasons back.

Facts don’t lie, small minded one! Oh you seem to have removed your somewhat pathetic reply.

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 20:27:31 GMT 1 Melc said:

Aug 22, 2022 20:22:40 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Facts don’t lie, small minded one! Oh you seem to have removed your somewhat pathetic reply.

Why pathetic the books will show anything up. Everyone knows DH as been stumping up his cash in the club since he took over.

[Melc]

Aug 22, 2022 20:37:03 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 22, 2022 20:27:31 GMT 1 Melc said:

Facts don’t lie, small minded one! Oh you seem to have removed your somewhat pathetic reply.

Why pathetic the books will show anything up. Everyone knows DH as been stumping up his cash in the club since he took over.

Where have I said he is not stumping up the cash. Just pointing out the higher cost of the back room team you mentioned still is part of a lower budget. 
I apologise for the pathetic remark, let’s just say things could be a lot better than what they are at the minute regarding the club.

[King Curtis]

Aug 22, 2022 19:25:06 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

They're not are they?

Who's said they are?

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 20:42:38 GMT 1 Melc said:

Aug 22, 2022 20:37:03 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Why pathetic the books will show anything up. Everyone knows DH as been stumping up his cash in the club since he took over.

Where have I said he is not stumping up the cash. Just pointing out the higher cost of the back room team you mentioned still is part of a lower budget. 
I apologise for the pathetic remark, let’s just say things could be a lot better than what they are at the minute regarding the club.

We all want the same thing but how we get there is going to be tough for us thats why PH was trying to reduce our debts and spent very little on transfers.

[Teddington Ted]

If a £10m wage bill incurs a £10m deficit then something is seriously wrong with the structure and set up of the club.

Hoyle should explain why employing a single footballer puts us over budget.

[duncfost01]

Aug 22, 2022 20:48:22 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Aug 22, 2022 19:25:06 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

They're not are they?

Who's said they are?

Another quality reply from you. Read the thread ?

[duncfost01]

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

[richhtfc]

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

I don’t know the full picture but I believe we’ve invested big style in the staffing of the training set up. We have relatively speaking a higher percentage of analytical, performance and player liaison positions than most teams at this level.

This is one of the reasons why we’ve been able to secure high quality loans from the Premier league. We do our background analysis and we show players how we will develop and improve them with a lot of detail.

[mightyterrier]

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

Chickens a reporter, he knows no more than you or I about football, so I’d suggest you don’t believe him and take a happy pill or two, or maybe just eat a snickers?

[duncfost01]

Aug 22, 2022 23:03:17 GMT 1 mightyterrier said:

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

Chickens a reporter, he knows no more than you or I about football, so I’d suggest you don’t believe him and take a happy pill or two, or maybe just eat a snickers?

Why snickers ? Prefer a marathon. Agree chicken knows nothing.

[arry11]

Aug 22, 2022 21:34:54 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

If a £10m wage bill incurs a £10m deficit then something is seriously wrong with the structure and set up of the club.

Hoyle should explain why employing a single footballer puts us over budget.

And we don't incur any other running costs then, give it a rest the books won't lie

[stinkypete]

Aug 22, 2022 19:50:19 GMT 1 arry11 said:

Aug 22, 2022 19:25:06 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Why are our overheads any larger than anybody else in the division ?

Genuine question.

We are still running the the club and backroom staff at Premier league quality.

Hahahaha!

[sykeylad]

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

It is not a fact the squad is nowhere near as strong, that is your opinion.

It will be a long tough season for those that only post negative moaning and have unrealistic expectations. That's life. Negative people have a miserable time of it I suspect, generally speaking.

[rugbyterrier]

Aug 23, 2022 7:27:02 GMT 1 sykeylad said:

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

It is not a fact the squad is nowhere near as strong, that is your opinion.

It will be a long tough season for those that only post negative moaning and have unrealistic expectations. That's life. Negative people have a miserable time of it I suspect, generally speaking.

10 games will be a better benchmark of fact or opinion regarding the squad .

[duncfost01]

Aug 23, 2022 7:27:02 GMT 1 sykeylad said:

Aug 22, 2022 22:30:26 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Not one reply that explains why (if they are) are overheads are so high.

We seem to have too many players that won’t make it at championship level. If chicken is to be believed Danny grant is way off the first team. I haven’t seen him play, so I wouldn’t know.

The facts are quite simple.

This squad is nowhere near as strong as last season. We have gone backwards. We/They all knew toffs and O’Brien were going. Colville as well, who has replaced him in the squad.

This is going to be a tough season.

Saying that it doesn’t mean I’m not behind the players on the pitch. Not sure I’m behind Dean though, he gives a good impression of Boris.

It is not a fact the squad is nowhere near as strong, that is your opinion.

It will be a long tough season for those that only post negative moaning and have unrealistic expectations. That's life. Negative people have a miserable time of it I suspect, generally speaking.

No it isn’t a fact and only the season ahead will tell us whether it is or it isn’t.

[ShortbreadPete]

Aug 23, 2022 8:08:10 GMT 1 duncfost01 said:

Aug 23, 2022 7:27:02 GMT 1 sykeylad said:

It is not a fact the squad is nowhere near as strong, that is your opinion.

It will be a long tough season for those that only post negative moaning and have unrealistic expectations. That's life. Negative people have a miserable time of it I suspect, generally speaking.

No it isn’t a fact and only the season ahead will tell us whether it is or it isn’t.

So when you wrote that 'the facts are simple' why did you use the word fact?