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Post by durhamterrier on Jun 17, 2023 18:08:02 GMT 1
Looks a promising player and one I’d love to see have a good season with us . However , I trust warnocks judgement here and if he doesn’t think our strongest collective starting eleven has Camara in it then so be it
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Post by ram on Jun 18, 2023 10:09:17 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake.
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Post by ldotm on Jun 18, 2023 10:16:09 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake. Camara nowhere near Bellingham’s level |
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Post by ram on Jun 18, 2023 10:36:18 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake. Camara nowhere near Bellingham’s level If you read my post correctly you will see I never said he was. |
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Post by crux on Jun 18, 2023 10:48:42 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake. Not sure you can say £30M for a 16 year old is cheap! Plus they've now got another £6M. If Birmingham had been a PL club, then they could have got more money for him. However, there's a ceiling for fees in each division and around £20M for a top player is the limit in the Championship - they got £30M as he was/is exceptional. Birmingham probably should have gone for a 40% sell-on clause, which I think is the maximum. Although Dortmond might have not agreed, or the maximum could be different in European transfers. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 18, 2023 10:49:25 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake. £115m ? I thought it was £88m. |
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Post by iangreaves on Jun 18, 2023 10:58:30 GMT 1
Birmingham made an error selling Bellingham "cheaply",he has just gone to Real Madrid for £115 million.If opinion is that Camara is in that sort of player bracket Town should not make the same mistake. If he is not going to sign a new contract then there is not a lot the club can do. |
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Post by mosher on Jun 18, 2023 11:12:24 GMT 1
REALLY hope it's the former, because this lad could make us a lot of money, or become capable of building a team around. If (as you and Galph say) he knuckles down and takes NW's criticism/advice to heart and not be sulky about it he could become an amazing all-round player. I'm not one for stereo-typing...but you appear to be suggesting "be less French" !? Never even came into my thinking on posting, but now you mention it  To be serious, for some reason with Town's youth players I don't even notice country of origin, they're just "ours"  |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jul 12, 2023 14:04:26 GMT 1
Close to a deal with Udinese for around £1.7 million plus large sell on fees . If true not bad business for town .
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Jul 12, 2023 14:14:32 GMT 1
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jul 12, 2023 14:25:29 GMT 1
Sorry just noticed , the newish format ( probably not that new now ) often means I miss stuff on datm.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 13, 2023 10:44:47 GMT 1
I prefer to see discussion around individual players given their own threads.
Otherwise it gets lost in the hundreds of pages of the "main" thread. I'm sure I'm not the only one who often can't be arsed trawling through a big long thread to find a single bit of information.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 13, 2023 10:55:57 GMT 1
Good business all round if true.
The guy has bags of potential and could be worth 20x that amount in future = good for Udinese.
Higher profile club = Good for Camara
Due to his contract situation he's likely to leave at the end of the season for a pittance if he stays - regardless of how well he plays. Getting a fee now for a player who is unlikely to impact much in the short term = good deal for HTAFC.
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Post by pilks123 on Jul 13, 2023 11:05:11 GMT 1
Good business all round if true. The guy has bags of potential and could be worth 20x that amount in future = good for Udinese. Higher profile club = Good for Camara Due to his contract situation he's likely to leave at the end of the season for a pittance if he stays - regardless of how well he plays. Getting a fee now for a player who is unlikely to impact much in the short term = good deal for HTAFC. Throw in a decent sell on clause as well and hopefully will be a decent result for Town if he goes on to be a big player. Best of luck to him if he does leave. |
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Post by ambryboy on Jul 13, 2023 11:06:22 GMT 1
Hope this plus the Coady windfall gives a little room for manoeuvre. Has Kane sorted himself a deal yet?
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Post by theravymoomin on Jul 13, 2023 17:18:40 GMT 1
Feel like he showed glimpses of what he can do
But then in the other hand looked like a rabbit in the headlights
I don’t think we will miss him
Just incase he does make it big, we will obviously have a big sell on for him,
Anyway
When are we gonna see some new faces through the door!
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 13, 2023 17:46:49 GMT 1
Feel like he showed glimpses of what he can do But then in the other hand looked like a rabbit in the headlights I don’t think we will miss him Just incase he does make it big, we will obviously have a big sell on for him, Anyway When are we gonna see some new faces through the door! I don't think he looked like a rabbit in the headlights at all; he was calm and composed. For me, the issue was he maybe didn't get about as much as he seemed capable of. Needed more energy to his game. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 13, 2023 17:52:02 GMT 1
He needs to do more than expertly control the ball, gloriously beat 3 players, then......give the 🤬 ball away.
Rinse.
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Udinese fans can thank me later.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 13, 2023 17:56:20 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result.
Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game.
When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 13, 2023 18:14:21 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result. Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game. When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go. Taking ages and then going backwards. Hmm, I wonder who that sounds like. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 13, 2023 18:24:38 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result. Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game. When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go. Taking ages and then going backwards. Hmm, I wonder who that sounds like. A fellow certai ntown player are you refering to ? |
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Post by Next Manager coming soon on Jul 13, 2023 19:06:57 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result. Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game. When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go. Taking ages and then going backwards. Hmm, I wonder who that sounds like. Here there and everywhere! |
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Post by ebargum on Jul 13, 2023 19:08:24 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result. Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game. When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go. a few levels to go then. |
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Post by benhomly on Jul 13, 2023 19:20:19 GMT 1
Camara wnats to go, he has a year to go , therefore we all know the end of result. Camara is a very good prespect, but he has floors to his game, that need sorting. Such as taking ages while on the ball, or the fact he goes backwards a hell of a lot. He will need to bring that forward defensive spillting pass into his game. When the going got tough last year, Warnock didn't feel he could rely on him. Therefore for me its a no brainer to leth im go. a few levels to go then. He’ll end up in the basement division if he’s not careful |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 13, 2023 19:38:44 GMT 1
Feel like he showed glimpses of what he can do But then in the other hand looked like a rabbit in the headlights I don’t think we will miss him Just incase he does make it big, we will obviously have a big sell on for him, Anyway When are we gonna see some new faces through the door! I don't think he looked like a rabbit in the headlights at all; he was calm and composed. For me, the issue was he maybe didn't get about as much as he seemed capable of. Needed more energy to his game. Too calm for my liking. Wigan away he was too slow and lost the ball everytime he got it. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jul 13, 2023 19:41:18 GMT 1
I liked him. Very good player. But for whatever reason we didn't see enough of him.
Our financial constraints were always going to mean us cashing in on him before his contract runs down.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2023 20:14:17 GMT 1
I don't think he looked like a rabbit in the headlights at all; he was calm and composed. For me, the issue was he maybe didn't get about as much as he seemed capable of. Needed more energy to his game. Too calm for my liking. Wigan away he was too slow and lost the ball everytime he got it. He needs better players around him I think. His vision and ability to pick a pass is excellent for a lad of that age but he needs players to be in positions where he can pass to them. When he played, sorry to repeat myself again, with Rudoni and Kasumu they just clicked, and he needs that. In a decent team I think he will really look the business. The Wigan game was probably his worst but nobody played particularly well that day. I think the biggest player score from Chicken was for Boyle. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 13, 2023 20:18:48 GMT 1
He’ll end up in the basement division if he’s not careful Well its obvs that Camara is not the complete player yet, in both his preformance and also attiude. When the going got tough, like i said Warnock didn't use him or even have him on the bench. Therefore it shows he still has room to improve. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 14, 2023 4:48:56 GMT 1
Need to get a 30% sell-on clause in there. That seems to be the going rate for young up and coming players who leave for not much.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 14, 2023 8:08:25 GMT 1
Desperately want good young lads here who can play and have some pace etc..
Camara can definitely play and he also has the other benefits of height and size.
Id like to keep him and get him in the team every week. If that cant happen for whatever reasons and therefore he wont re sign then we have to get what we can with the best add ons we can achieve.
It is unfortunate.
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