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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2022 11:11:54 GMT 1
Might be available to play against Preston.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Dec 20, 2022 11:24:50 GMT 1
This is good news but I don't see it making much difference in terms of our plight.
Pearson will provide some experience and is solid, plus a threat from corners but we are seriously missing players who can attack and have the know how and confidence to move us up the field and create chances.
I watched Cardiff V Blackpool highlights over the weekend, both teams are struggling, both teams looked to have more about them going forward than Town.
I watched Wigan against Sheff U last night. Wigan were creating chances we don't have anything other than giving the ball to Thomas and him then knocking a long and hopeful cross into the box with Ward waiting and two, often three opposition players close to him, their goalkeeper and no other Town player within 10-20 yards of Ward.
We are really one dimensional and it's easy to defend against.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 20, 2022 12:18:39 GMT 1
Get gim up top as a target man
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 20, 2022 12:23:34 GMT 1
He will only get injured again . I will give Hogg until after xmas and i bet he goes down with an "innjury". I still find it difficult that a calf injury that was not torn or reputred took 12 weeks give or take to recover. I have go to give it to these town players this year, they really are going above and beyond to make sure those injuries take a long time to come back from. Under wagner and CC Hoggy, you couldn't geth im off the pitch, yet a calf injury took him down for 12 weeks. Remember against Bristol City suspected broken neck for Hogg , o no remember we were going for promotion, back the next week. I am just starting to get the feeling these "injuries" are not healing like they should, due to the fact we are bottom of the league.
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Post by townatheart on Dec 20, 2022 12:36:41 GMT 1
He will only get injured again . I will give Hogg until after xmas and i bet he goes down with an "innjury". I still find it difficult that a calf injury that was not torn or reputred took 12 weeks give or take to recover. I have go to give it to these town players this year, they really are going above and beyond to make sure those injuries take a long time to come back from. Under wagner and CC Hoggy, you couldn't geth im off the pitch, yet a calf injury took him down for 12 weeks. Remember against Bristol City suspected broken neck for Hogg , o no remember we were going for promotion, back the next week. I am just starting to get the feeling these "injuries" are not healing like they should, due to the fact we are bottom of the league. Please correct me if I am misinterpreting your view here, but are you implying that Hogg has been feigning or exaggerating his injury because he is afraid of having to battle and engage on the pitch under difficult circumstances? Just curious to clarify before I say anything else,😉 |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 20, 2022 12:37:04 GMT 1
He will only get injured again . I will give Hogg until after xmas and i bet he goes down with an "innjury". I still find it difficult that a calf injury that was not torn or reputred took 12 weeks give or take to recover. I have go to give it to these town players this year, they really are going above and beyond to make sure those injuries take a long time to come back from. Under wagner and CC Hoggy, you couldn't geth im off the pitch, yet a calf injury took him down for 12 weeks. Remember against Bristol City suspected broken neck for Hogg , o no remember we were going for promotion, back the next week. I am just starting to get the feeling these "injuries" are not healing like they should, due to the fact we are bottom of the league. Out of all the players we have, I can't believe you've picked on Hogg as someone who would pretend to be injured, the man is a warrior & I'm pretty sure you couldn't be further from the truth with him. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 20, 2022 12:39:15 GMT 1
Great that the Keighley Cannavaro is nearing a return, another who gives all for the cause. You can't have enough experience in the team with lads like this, he will make a big difference with the young lads in the team.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 20, 2022 12:50:09 GMT 1
Great that the Keighley Cannavaro is nearing a return, another who gives all for the cause. You can't have enough experience in the team with lads like this, he will make a big difference with the young lads in the team. Biggest miss of the season. Effective in both boxes.. Partnership, even if we play with 3 with Lees is a big miss. Said it early on. Set pieces, Lees, Pearson and Helik would be a huge bonus for us now. Simpson looks a unit as well. Nothing wrong with playing to our strengths, if bullying in both boxes is what works. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 20, 2022 12:53:36 GMT 1
Guys look at Hogg stats and it will become clear there is a pattern . I am not even making this up , i like hogg as a player a battler type of player. The facts stack up i am sorry to point it out.
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Post by Leporid on Dec 20, 2022 13:32:12 GMT 1
Guys look at Hogg stats and it will become clear there is a pattern . I am not even making this up , i like hogg as a player a battler type of player. The facts stack up i am sorry to point it out. Outline the pattern for us please. |
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 20, 2022 13:34:20 GMT 1
Great that the Keighley Cannavaro is nearing a return, another who gives all for the cause. You can't have enough experience in the team with lads like this, he will make a big difference with the young lads in the team. Yep, can't have enough League 1 standard CB's |
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Post by townatheart on Dec 20, 2022 13:56:03 GMT 1
Guys look at Hogg stats and it will become clear there is a pattern . I am not even making this up , i like hogg as a player a battler type of player. The facts stack up i am sorry to point it out. Spell it out please, as this now sounds like you are claiming this is something he has done repeatedly. Just what FACTS are you looking at to back up your view? |
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Post by 3Pipe on Dec 20, 2022 14:01:34 GMT 1
Great that the Keighley Cannavaro is nearing a return, another who gives all for the cause. You can't have enough experience in the team with lads like this, he will make a big difference with the young lads in the team. My G. |
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Post by prepare on Dec 20, 2022 14:37:35 GMT 1
He will only get injured again . I will give Hogg until after xmas and i bet he goes down with an "innjury". I still find it difficult that a calf injury that was not torn or reputred took 12 weeks give or take to recover. I have go to give it to these town players this year, they really are going above and beyond to make sure those injuries take a long time to come back from. Under wagner and CC Hoggy, you couldn't geth im off the pitch, yet a calf injury took him down for 12 weeks. Remember against Bristol City suspected broken neck for Hogg , o no remember we were going for promotion, back the next week. I am just starting to get the feeling these "injuries" are not healing like they should, due to the fact we are bottom of the league. Out of all the players we have, I can't believe you've picked on Hogg as someone who would pretend to be injured, the man is a warrior & I'm pretty sure you couldn't be further from the truth with him. correct correct what bull shine |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 20, 2022 15:37:15 GMT 1
Out of all the players we have, I can't believe you've picked on Hogg as someone who would pretend to be injured, the man is a warrior & I'm pretty sure you couldn't be further from the truth with him. correct correct what bull shine Call it rubbish all you want, but look at the facts/ stats they do not lie and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition |
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Post by ldotm on Dec 20, 2022 15:51:39 GMT 1
correct correct what bull shine Call it rubbish all you want, but look at the facts/ stats they do not lie and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition Even though I knew this was nonsense, just to dispel your made up statistics: Hogg at Town in all comps: 13/14 - 37 appearances 14/15 - 27 appearances 15/16 - 24 appearances 16/17 - 40 appearances 17/18 - 33 appearances 18/19 - 30 appearances 19/20 - 38 appearances 20/21 - 38 appearances 21/22 - 34 appearances That’s without playoff games included and worth nothing the vast majority are league appearances, as we know we are shite in cup competitions |
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 20, 2022 16:00:05 GMT 1
correct correct what bull shine Call it rubbish all you want, but look at the facts/ stats they do not lie and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition I am bored at work so thought I’d check this fact about Hogg at Christmas. Since he signed for us he has played every game on Boxing Day and as far as I can tell he has played in every game at the festive period. |
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Post by boooothy on Dec 20, 2022 16:16:33 GMT 1
The only thing i see him bringing is a set piece goal threat which for some reason have been shit.
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Post by deo1 on Dec 20, 2022 16:23:35 GMT 1
Might be available to play against Preston. That’s great news he’s a leader who we’ve missed greatly. We might start to put a few points on board with a few 0-0 results 😀😀 |
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Post by aideybabes on Dec 20, 2022 16:26:33 GMT 1
Get gim up top as a target man Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but he couldn’t do any worse.. give him a go I say! |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 20, 2022 16:30:08 GMT 1
Get gim up top as a target man Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but he couldn’t do any worse.. give him a go I say! Was a bit 50/50 in all honestly. Great in the air and could hold it, without disturbing the back 3 which haven't done too badly. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 20, 2022 17:31:00 GMT 1
Call it rubbish all you want, but look at the facts/ stats they do not lie and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition I am bored at work so thought I’d check this fact about Hogg at Christmas. Since he signed for us he has played every game on Boxing Day and as far as I can tell he has played in every game at the festive period. Thats not quite true, he has missed quite a few festive and holiday games, either injured or suspended. In fact he would be missing the next couple had the ref not been as lenient with his challenge on saturday after he had been booked. Its one thing being combatative its another being daft at times? I am a fan of his limited talents, nothing wrong with simply restricting your game to your strengths. Sorba cant defend etc.. Lees cant distribute well enough.. Boyle has to have a body to mark. Its now up to the manager to get everyone doing what they do best, the problems we have are not mainly caused by what we do, its more what we are not doing. Those that are not ball players are doing too much on the ball, those that can play a bit and carry the ball are not doing it enough. We often have plenty of support, too much, for the player on the ball in our half and zero further forward. We may not be on half the shit if we gave the ball away further up the pitch rather than closer to our own goal. Id like to see us lose it more often in their box than 20 yards outside it. Lots of risk averse play going on that eventually puts us more in the shit than passing it, or running forward with it? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 20, 2022 18:27:04 GMT 1
Methinks Bluebell is a WUM…
Hard to tell which club some of these people support nowadays though.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 20, 2022 18:54:17 GMT 1
Might be available to play against Preston. 23/24 season? |
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Post by impact on Dec 20, 2022 18:56:29 GMT 1
Might be available to play against Preston. 23/24 season? Only if we get them in the cup |
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Post by tepidterrier on Dec 21, 2022 13:45:29 GMT 1
Before he played for Luton, Pearson was mostly a right back. He played there a couple of times under Carlos as well. Could definitely be a solution to our lack of solidity in that position while Turton is injured.
Would it be better utilising him like that and keeping a settled defensive partnership? Or is he that much better than Lees and Helik? I thought that last season on the whole, although he was outstanding at times, he was the weakest of our main three centre backs.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 21, 2022 13:51:54 GMT 1
Call it rubbish all you want, but look at the facts/ stats they do not lie and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition I am bored at work so thought I’d check this fact about Hogg at Christmas. Since he signed for us he has played every game on Boxing Day and as far as I can tell he has played in every game at the festive period. Not only that the rest of his post is bollocks. We had horrendous long term injuries under Corberan second half of the season 2 years back and nearly went down. |
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Post by mosher on Dec 21, 2022 14:14:55 GMT 1
correct correct what bull shine and they actually back me up. Watford season , they got to the play off final almost ever present. Since joining town the only two seasons he has reached 30 games and over are the promotion season and last season, facts are facts . over his time with town he has rarely played a boxing day game or around new year both games . Listen i am not a Hogg hater by any stretch, i do like a tigerish type in the midfield, but i am also well aware of when teams are not doing so well players take longer to get back from injury, we are not the only club to have this issue. I am also well qualified in the sports science field and i know for a fact, a calf problem such as Hogg's , that was not torn or ruptured should NEVER ever take 12 weeks to come back from, to at least be involved, maybe not starting but to not even be involved is very strange. Now the rumours of a fall out with MF may contribute to this factor. I am not picking holes in players i am stating facts, Pat Jones has had a hamstring problem that has kept him out for 3 months or more 3 times now, sometimes without even playing a match, now either our medical staff have zero club what they are doing or the fact we are bottom is playing a huge factor in our players "wanting" to get back". If Hoyle is serious about every penny counting, then look at the medical side of the club, we have injured players, but they seem to take far longer than expected to come back. These are facts not ficition And people HAVE looked at the facts and proved you're talking bollocks about Hogg's previous appearance figures. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 21, 2022 20:06:35 GMT 1
Great news. Maybe Fotheringham can play six at the back when he comes back in?
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Post by belizian on Dec 22, 2022 22:27:39 GMT 1
The only thing i see him bringing is a set piece goal threat which for some reason have been shit. For some reason we've been putting corners into the near post under Fothers. Christ knows why but the commentator on Ifollow was commenting about it recently. Seems ridiculous if it's deliberate. |
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