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Post by arry11 on Feb 1, 2023 2:53:55 GMT 1
Is there any players out of contract we could pick up
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Post by Teddington Ted on Feb 1, 2023 4:18:38 GMT 1
Even by our low standards, that was a shite window.
We went into it needing a goal threat, some creativity and a left back.
We came out of it with a new goalie and a smattering of aging squad players.
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Post by haveitback on Feb 1, 2023 6:23:23 GMT 1
Sent everyone out on loan for game time, ready for league one
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 1, 2023 7:35:28 GMT 1
The O'Brien rejecting us has to be utter bollocks - the deal with Blackburn has a £10m purchase clause if they get promoted - how would that work with us? £10m if we stay up - like we'd pay that. Wages too? Nah - not a chance we'd have been able to put a comparative offer together.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 1, 2023 7:43:15 GMT 1
The O'Brien rejecting us has to be utter bollocks - the deal with Blackburn has a £10m purchase clause if they get promoted - how would that work with us? £10m if we stay up - like we'd pay that. Wages too? Nah - not a chance we'd have been able to put a comparative offer together. We don't need to pay a fee to Forest as they owe all the money to us. They could effectively have given him back and call it quits. Whether we're in a position to walk away from that guaranteed income I'm not sure but he would have been a saleable asset back on the books. |
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Post by alexdire on Feb 1, 2023 8:00:35 GMT 1
Grant to Swansea from WBA is off apparently Another one where we aren't getting a sell on fee. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 1, 2023 8:24:43 GMT 1
Grant to Swansea from WBA is off apparently Another one where we aren't getting a sell on fee. Sell on fees are on the profit only. Slim chance of Grant moving for more than £16 million |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 1, 2023 8:29:35 GMT 1
Grant to Swansea from WBA is off apparently Another one where we aren't getting a sell on fee. Or one where we got a really good deal for Grant. Does there have to be an HTFC negative in everything that happens? |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Feb 1, 2023 8:37:27 GMT 1
Sounds like we've annoyed a few people then One was ginger and a former player. As Maynard says, you reap what you sow ey Mr Hoyle and Mr Bromby. Was one of them Sinarni? Can see him being pissed with us as didn’t give him the contract when we had the option. What did we do to piss LOB off so much? He got the move in the end |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Feb 1, 2023 8:42:33 GMT 1
One was ginger and a former player. As Maynard says, you reap what you sow ey Mr Hoyle and Mr Bromby. Was one of them Sinarni? Can see him being pissed with us as didn’t give him the contract when we had the option. What did we do to piss LOB off so much? He got the move in the end I think it was the same person, not a ginger and then a former player. |
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Post by dbterrier32 on Feb 1, 2023 8:48:28 GMT 1
Was one of them Sinarni? Can see him being pissed with us as didn’t give him the contract when we had the option. What did we do to piss LOB off so much? He got the move in the end I think it was the same person, not a ginger and then a former player. Sorry the Sinarni bit was just a question to see if we’d approached him too. Not worded well by me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 8:49:54 GMT 1
The O'Brien rejecting us has to be utter bollocks - the deal with Blackburn has a £10m purchase clause if they get promoted - how would that work with us? £10m if we stay up - like we'd pay that. Wages too? Nah - not a chance we'd have been able to put a comparative offer together. We don't need to pay a fee to Forest as they owe all the money to us. They could effectively have given him back and call it quits. Whether we're in a position to walk away from that guaranteed income I'm not sure but he would have been a saleable asset back on the books. Err, so the money Town are banking upon to ‘stay afloat’ within the budget would all of a sudden be written off. Clever. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 1, 2023 8:52:52 GMT 1
Absolutely fucking pathetic deadline day that the sheer ignorance from those in charge is frightening
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 1, 2023 9:02:31 GMT 1
We don't need to pay a fee to Forest as they owe all the money to us. They could effectively have given him back and call it quits. Whether we're in a position to walk away from that guaranteed income I'm not sure but he would have been a saleable asset back on the books. Err, so the money Town are banking upon to ‘stay afloat’ within the budget would all of a sudden be written off. Clever. The next payment will be in the summer. Signing him massively increases our chances of staying up and therefore increases the chances of this takeover going through. Not signing him means there is a good chance we go down, takeover falls through, massively reduced income streams. I think it would have been a clever calculated risk to take. But he never wanted to come back so it is a moot point |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 9:18:55 GMT 1
Don't see the need? Have you been hiding under a rock? Doesn't matter how good the squad may seem if the person in charge is a complete ninkempoop. I’m not saying it’s rosey, i can’t actually imagine how the season could have been handled any worse. My point is, i honestly think we have more chance of staying up than going down. IF that happens, well it could all work out rather well? I bet the bookies would love you as a punter! |
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Post by leroy212 on Feb 1, 2023 9:25:43 GMT 1
One was ginger and a former player. As Maynard says, you reap what you sow ey Mr Hoyle and Mr Bromby. Was one of them Sinarni? Can see him being pissed with us as didn’t give him the contract when we had the option. What did we do to piss LOB off so much? He got the move in the end probably to do with what dean said when he was sold, if i remember rightly he said summat like he wont be missed, kasumu has a better engine on him. cant remember exactly |
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 1, 2023 9:27:59 GMT 1
Absolutely fucking pathetic deadline day that the sheer ignorance from those in charge is frightening I don’t think we’ve done too bad this window, considering our league position and the background shenanigans. Not lost anyone important to the 1st team. Jackson and Camara back in the squad will improve us and we’ve signed Vaclik Lowton Knockaert Hungbo Waghorn Kamberi Can remember plenty of years we wouldn’t have signed anyone, or maybe one player. |
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Post by thomo on Feb 1, 2023 9:35:18 GMT 1
Absolutely fucking pathetic deadline day that the sheer ignorance from those in charge is frightening I don’t think we’ve done too bad this window, considering our league position and the background shenanigans. Not lost anyone important to the 1st team. Jackson and Camara back in the squad will improve us and we’ve signed Vaclik Knockaert Hungbo Waghorn Kamberi Can remember plenty of years we wouldn’t have signed anyone, or maybe one player. Actually relieved we got a keeper. And pleasantly surprised at his apparent calibre. The jury's out on the rest though - are they actually going to have much impact - on paper, Hungbo, Waghorn and Kambieri seem no better than the what we had already and we don't really know what Knockeart will bring to the table after a wretched few years for him. |
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Post by Sio on Feb 1, 2023 9:40:06 GMT 1
Absolutely fucking pathetic deadline day that the sheer ignorance from those in charge is frightening I don’t think we’ve done too bad this window, considering our league position and the background shenanigans. Not lost anyone important to the 1st team. Jackson and Camara back in the squad will improve us and we’ve signed Vaclik Knockaert Hungbo Waghorn Kamberi Can remember plenty of years we wouldn’t have signed anyone, or maybe one player. I mean rate him or not, we've technically lost our most creative player. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 1, 2023 9:40:13 GMT 1
I don't think our transfer business is bad at all. Whether we use those players we've brought in properly, however, is another matter entirely. We've brought in options up front - both of whom I would argue should be playing with Rhodes, not instead of. We've replaced Nicholls for the duration of his injury. We're still arguably light in a couple of positions, but you could also argue that we don't make the best use of what we already have. We've also made some baffling decisions. I wouldn't have let Thomas go on loan. For all he's been off-colour, he's been the one creative outlet in a side set up so negatively it's no wonder he's not produced his best form.
For me, we have more than enough to get out of it now. But we need to be more aggressive, get on the front foot, and look to push teams back to create chances. Quality into the box will see Jordan Rhodes score goals. With very few chances he has 6 goals this season. With someone alongside him to help create space and occupy defenders, and quality into the penalty area he'll get more. From what I saw of Hungbo's clips, he seems to have the ability to deliver a ball into dangerous spaces, and if we actually played Jackson we know he has a good left foot on him.
One thing I am pleased about is that we've got kids out in League One and Two, playing plenty of football. Austerfield has stepped up to League One, Rowe hopefully will get regular football for Stockport (I rate Rowe and don't think he's had a fair crack of the whip), Crichlow is doing well, and we've got a few more out getting games. If they're not going to play a part for us now, they need to get games elsewhere and someone has realised that.
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 1, 2023 9:42:50 GMT 1
I don’t think we’ve done too bad this window, considering our league position and the background shenanigans. Not lost anyone important to the 1st team. Jackson and Camara back in the squad will improve us and we’ve signed Vaclik Knockaert Hungbo Waghorn Kamberi Can remember plenty of years we wouldn’t have signed anyone, or maybe one player. I mean rate him or not, we've technically lost our most creative player. Tino? Edit: sorry I’d honestly forgotten about Thomas. I do rate him but he’s not been contributing and doesn’t look happy to be here. With that in mind I think the loan move was for the best. You’re right though we will need some creativity out of Hungbo, Knockaert and the younger players. Personally hopeful that Pat Jones will play a part. |
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Post by rocky on Feb 1, 2023 9:43:09 GMT 1
Another one where we aren't getting a sell on fee. Or one where we got a really good deal for Grant. Does there have to be an HTFC negative in everything that happens? Yes is the short answer to your question and that’s because most of the whinging sods on here are only happy when they’re slagging the club off. |
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Post by alexdire on Feb 1, 2023 9:44:12 GMT 1
Another one where we aren't getting a sell on fee. Or one where we got a really good deal for Grant. Does there have to be an HTFC negative in everything that happens? More disappointment than anything else. Not slagging the club off as its out of our control. I thought him and Billing would have done better than they have. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 1, 2023 9:45:16 GMT 1
Is there any players out of contract we could pick up Saddens me to read this post. Hope the club are happy at looking at juggernauts like Luton move into fourth place without having to make any serious additions this month. Painful where we find ourselves. |
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Post by alexdire on Feb 1, 2023 9:45:45 GMT 1
Or one where we got a really good deal for Grant. Does there have to be an HTFC negative in everything that happens? Yes is the short answer to your question and that’s because most of the whinging sods on here are only happy when they’re slagging the club off. See below or above |
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Post by alexdire on Feb 1, 2023 9:56:39 GMT 1
Absolutely fucking pathetic deadline day that the sheer ignorance from those in charge is frightening I don’t think we’ve done too bad this window, considering our league position and the background shenanigans. Not lost anyone important to the 1st team. Jackson and Camara back in the squad will improve us and we’ve signed Vaclik Knockaert Hungbo Waghorn Kamberi Can remember plenty of years we wouldn’t have signed anyone, or maybe one player. The only two I'm pleased with are: Vaclik, we now have two decent keepers for the season as opposed to having one. Hungbo, I've been told he's good and will offer us something different going forward. Waghorn and Kamberi don't really offer anything different to what we've got and they aren't prolific. They are just extra bodies. Knockaert he's done nothing really since leaving Brighton and he has hardly played for a season and a half. He's another signing like Rhodes, who people think will suddenly find the form from over 5 years ago. The jury is out on that one. But its what we can get given our situation. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Feb 1, 2023 9:58:08 GMT 1
No point being angry, just a disheartening realisation of what we are: millions in debt, a disinterested owner desperate to get rid of us, chumps running the recruitment and 1st team, zero value in the squad, completely unable to compete in the transfer system, dependant on signing journeymen by picking up a fraction of player’s wages as they wind down their final contracts simply to get faces in, massive apathy amongst the local community & a vast schism between the board and majority of the fan base.
I’d say it’s 50/50 whether we stay up or not with many former die hards really not caring less either way.
When those running the show act like they care about the club, the fans will reciprocate. Until then, we’re all in limbo: laughing from the sidelines at what an absolute circus we are, waiting for something worth emotionally investing in again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 10:11:32 GMT 1
Even by our low standards, that was a shite window. We went into it needing a goal threat, some creativity and a left back. We came out of it with a new goalie and a smattering of aging squad players. On the goal threat we have signed Waghorn & Kamberi. I think Waghorn is a good move, but probably more for assists, jury out on Kamberi. Not sure how far Ward is off returning but when we get him back fully fit, I believe he was playing with an injury, then that will be a real boost. Also Knockaert, who if fit is a real goal threat. Creativity, well Knockaert again but I think we have it in some of our younger players. Diarra, Rudoni, Kasumu and we have brought in Hungbo. Left back would have needed to be an until end of season loan, as they all are, and we still have Jackson and Headley, plus Ruffels. Keeper was a huge issue. Late problem which must have really thrown the plans so well done HTAFC for sorting that so well. I really don't think we have a poor squad. We have a balance of youth and experience pretty much all over the pitch, midfield possibly a bit young but some very good players. This is now about how MF uses that squad. If he uses it to its potential we should be fine. If he tries to stick with the Coventry plan, and if he does he needs firing, no squad will be good enough. Given where we are financially, and the transition the club is in, that wasn't a bad window for me. |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 1, 2023 10:11:40 GMT 1
My opinion, but of a shit window with funds going places we didn't need.
Lowton and Kamberi - do we need them? Turton is now back. We still have Rhodes Ward and Waghorn.
Knockaert? Cannot deny what he was like. But injured and not done much for 2 years.
The wages/funds for these 3 could have been used elsewhere. Either left back or midfield or even to get rid of MF.
Waghorn, Vlacik and Hungbo, I can see why we brought these in and I am relatively happy with these signings.
I just feel we have wasted money when we don't have much anyway.
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Post by townrwe on Feb 1, 2023 10:12:02 GMT 1
I had the faint hope we would address the obvious squad weaknesses and give ourselves a fighting chance. We have lost sorba on LOAN.... and got a load of one paced OAPs.... im more fearful for us now than before the window.
On a plus side, Waghorn looked decent at Hull, Hungbo looks decent as well and the new goalie should be good enough.
We haven't addressed the areas we should have done and that's surely on Bromby, not the GOAT fozza. He's out of a job in the summer either way, even if he keeps us up, it needs a fresh start, so he will have to lead another team out at the San siro.
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