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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:29:37 GMT 1
Yet that's how Corberan played last season... And last season Carlos had us in the top 3, Buzz Shiteyear has us in the bottom 3 We were in the bottom 3 before he arrived. But yeah you're right, Fotheringham isn't a world class manager unlike Corberan.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 14, 2023 18:29:46 GMT 1
Meanwhile Middlesbrough & West Brom are now both in the top six There squad should have been there all season. Our squad most of this season has been B team project players. Nowt to do with them employing better head coaches then?
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Post by wigster on Jan 14, 2023 18:30:14 GMT 1
Go and support West Brom or Norwich then if you're that bothered. Wagner left the club four years ago, what relevance is he to Mark Fotheringham? The fact that we had the chance to bring him in instead of this joker. Our serious lack of ambition led to Carlos leaving at the start of the season aswell. Dean & Bromby have played a blinder since Wembley 👏 How much do you think bringing Wagner in would cost - or keeping Corboran would cost ?? With the money saved we've been able to bring in quite a lot of players. OK they're either has beens or utterly hopeless but "Fozzy" now has an absolutely massive squad to pick from. Sensibly many are only getting paid by us till the end of the season - may not mean they're very committed to us but does mean we won't have to pay them in Division 1.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 14, 2023 18:30:42 GMT 1
That's nonsense. We sat back all half & Hull controlled it & got a deserved equaliser. We're in the bottom 3 because we constantly employ these negative tactics. Yet that's how Corberan played last season... You obviously didn't see many away games last season. 3-0 v Blackpool, 2-0 v Boro, 4-3 v Reading, 3-2 v Bristol, 2-1 v Fulham, 2-1 v Coventry, 2-1 v Sheff U, etc. We went to win every game under Carlos, under Fotheringham we're set up not to lose. Big, big difference in tactics.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jan 14, 2023 18:30:51 GMT 1
What the fuck is the problem with at least TRYING to get a second goal, Town? Zero ambition on and off the pitch with this club.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 14, 2023 18:31:05 GMT 1
Scott high. What a performance. Managed to play 98 mins and not touch the ball. This manager is a joke. What possessed him to throw a player who hasn't played a min all season into that team He is out of his depth Scott High – A surprise inclusion in the first XI after being recalled from Rotherham. Barely put a pass astray and held the shape well. Top work rate. 7
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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:31:22 GMT 1
Go and support West Brom or Norwich then if you're that bothered. Wagner left the club four years ago, what relevance is he to Mark Fotheringham? The fact that we had the chance to bring him in instead of this joker. Our serious lack of ambition led to Carlos leaving at the start of the season aswell. Dean & Bromby have played a blinder since Wembley 👏 How do you know we had the chance to bring him in?
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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:32:07 GMT 1
Yet that's how Corberan played last season... You obviously didn't see many away games last season. 3-0 v Blackpool, 2-0 v Boro, 4-3 v Reading, 3-2 v Bristol, 2-1 v Fulham, 2-1 v Coventry, 2-1 v Sheff U, etc. We went to win every game under Carlos, under Fotheringham we're set up not to lose. Big, big difference in tactics. Yeah, my mistake, you're totally right. We were amazing in every game last season.
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Post by wigster on Jan 14, 2023 18:32:49 GMT 1
We were playing hull city not Barca Absolutely fantastic reply. Well done. You do realise teams can score 3 or 4 goals against eacother in this division? We are not good enough. We attack, we concede 3 or 4. And how on earth do you know that rockwall ? Seriously, name me a match when we've attacked under Mr Fotheringham. Bet you can't.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 14, 2023 18:33:14 GMT 1
The fact that we had the chance to bring him in instead of this joker. Our serious lack of ambition led to Carlos leaving at the start of the season aswell. Dean & Bromby have played a blinder since Wembley 👏 How much do you think bringing Wagner in would cost - or keeping Corboran would cost ?? With the money saved we've been able to bring in quite a lot of players. OK they're either has beens or utterly hopeless but "Fozzy" now has an absolutely massive squad to pick from. Sensibly many are only getting paid by us till the end of the season - may not mean they're very committed but does mean we won't have to pay them in Division 1. How much will relegation cost? Carlos walked out of a contract, Wagner was out of work when we decided this rookie was the man for the job. Cheap option but it'll cost more in the long run.
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Post by Larry David on Jan 14, 2023 18:33:20 GMT 1
Scott high. What a performance. Managed to play 98 mins and not touch the ball. This manager is a joke. What possessed him to throw a player who hasn't played a min all season into that team He is out of his depth Scott High – A surprise inclusion in the first XI after being recalled from Rotherham. Barely put a pass astray and held the shape well. Top work rate. 7 Nice to see Stevie wonder doing player ratings
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Post by jqhtfc on Jan 14, 2023 18:33:26 GMT 1
We were playing hull city not Barca Absolutely fantastic reply. Well done. You do realise teams can score 3 or 4 goals against eacother in this division? We are not good enough. We attack, we concede 3 or 4. It’s a reply your post deserved to be fair, this the same hull city who’ve not won at home in 8 and I believe are the lowest scores at home this season?. Nobody is saying go full on gung-ho but to score then sit back and get deeper and deeper and not even look like wanting to get a second which wins the game is shocking.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 14, 2023 18:34:09 GMT 1
What the fuck is the problem with at least TRYING to get a second goal, Town? Zero ambition on and off the pitch with this club. Cos, apparently, we aren't good enough to score twice and will let a boatload in instead 🙄😉
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 14, 2023 18:34:48 GMT 1
It was coming Everyone in the stand could feel it I can't believe he brought Diarra on instead of Thomas. Clearly Diarra has talent but he gave the ball away time and time again. This will continue to happen if we consistently sit back all the time Diarra is a muscular Forest Gump with a ball No where near ready
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Post by mrg on Jan 14, 2023 18:36:21 GMT 1
To anyone who was there, what did you make of the subs today? Looked weird to me taking Rhodes off and not bringing Thomas on.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jan 14, 2023 18:37:28 GMT 1
From Fotheringham's post match Presser
On Lee Nicholls "He's going to need a shoulder operations. Dave Baldwin and Leigh Bromby are actively looking for an experienced goalkeeper to add to the squad.
"It's been the story of the season. Our injury list has been horrific this season and we've been missing so many important players. We know how big a performance Lee has been for this club and we'll be looking to add an experienced goalkeeper now.
"I don't know how long he'll be out. With these operations. Some players are quick healers. It's out of my area and down to the medical team."
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Post by tepidterrier on Jan 14, 2023 18:38:20 GMT 1
Scott high. What a performance. Managed to play 98 mins and not touch the ball. This manager is a joke. What possessed him to throw a player who hasn't played a min all season into that team He is out of his depth thought he wasn't too bad. played a few good passes during the first half that led to chances, didn't see much of the ball 2nd half but who did? Looking at him vs Kasumu today, he was better, which I think justified his selection
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Post by duncfost01 on Jan 14, 2023 18:39:10 GMT 1
Hull deserved a point. We just don’t have enough quality in midfield.
I thought lowton had a decent game. Pearson makes a difference.
If we stay up it will be a miracle.
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Post by wigster on Jan 14, 2023 18:39:52 GMT 1
How much do you think bringing Wagner in would cost - or keeping Corboran would cost ?? With the money saved we've been able to bring in quite a lot of players. OK they're either has beens or utterly hopeless but "Fozzy" now has an absolutely massive squad to pick from. Sensibly many are only getting paid by us till the end of the season - may not mean they're very committed but does mean we won't have to pay them in Division 1. How much will relegation cost? Carlos walked out of a contract, Wagner was out of work when we decided this rookie was the man for the job. Cheap option but it'll cost more in the long run. Sorry Syndrome I was, cheaply, trying to be sarcastic. I totally accept that being cheap - the manager, the numerous incoming players, the selling of what quality we had, the has-beens/hopeless ones (ie appalling career records in the last several years) the promotion of as yet not ready youngsters (did you see Diarra today ?) etc may well have meant short term sense, but, as you say, relegation will blow those "savings" out of the water.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 14, 2023 18:40:32 GMT 1
Would the comments have been the same if the last kick of the game hadn’t happened.
I saw lots of positives today.
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Post by Armchair Pundit on Jan 14, 2023 18:40:37 GMT 1
To anyone who was there, what did you make of the subs today? Looked weird to me taking Rhodes off and not bringing Thomas on. Rudoni and Pearson subs were forced. I think they both picked up knocks. Rhodes— no idea. Holmes was on a yellow… so maybe taken off because of that. Still. The changes left us with no outlet except for Waghorn.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 14, 2023 18:40:55 GMT 1
You obviously didn't see many away games last season. 3-0 v Blackpool, 2-0 v Boro, 4-3 v Reading, 3-2 v Bristol, 2-1 v Fulham, 2-1 v Coventry, 2-1 v Sheff U, etc. We went to win every game under Carlos, under Fotheringham we're set up not to lose. Big, big difference in tactics. Yeah, my mistake, you're totally right. We were amazing in every game last season. I never said we were amazing every game but atleased we set-up to win games with a head coach that actually knew what he was doing. This guy is clueless & shouldn't have got the job in the first place. He was the cheapest option.
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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:41:53 GMT 1
Yeah, my mistake, you're totally right. We were amazing in every game last season. I never said we were amazing every game but atleased we set-up to win games with a head coach that actually knew what he was doing. This guy is clueless & shouldn't have got the job in the first place. He was the cheapest option. But he's here, and he's going nowhere, so stop fucking moaning.
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Post by Melc on Jan 14, 2023 18:42:02 GMT 1
Yep we did sit back but not quite as deep and we worked harder to close and press the opposition that’s fact , but we had better players and we never had a half quite as bad as the second half today we always looked threatening on the break last season that’s why we were up there there’s a few reasons why we are in the relegation position the tactics the players the coach for starters ....LOB and Toffs are a massive loss as we all know and we had more belief resilience and lick last season Never had a second half as bad as today? Wow. Let’s not dress it up that was one of the worst showing in the second half. I don’t blame the players, I actually feel sorry for them having to endure such a useless coach with pathetic tactics and no plan A, never mind plan B. We had the excuse of when we play the teams around us we then will see a different approach as we have to pick up the points. What did we get today… Negativity to the core! He simply has to go.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jan 14, 2023 18:44:19 GMT 1
I never said we were amazing every game but atleased we set-up to win games with a head coach that actually knew what he was doing. This guy is clueless & shouldn't have got the job in the first place. He was the cheapest option. But he's here, and he's going nowhere, so stop fucking moaning. Why should I stop 'fucking moaning' when Hoyle & Bromby have made an absolute cluster fuck of the season with their brainless appointments? They should be ashamed!
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Post by prepare on Jan 14, 2023 18:44:19 GMT 1
Scott High – A surprise inclusion in the first XI after being recalled from Rotherham. Barely put a pass astray and held the shape well. Top work rate. 7 Nice to see Stevie wonder doing player ratings your reply sums you up high had a decent game plus your statement was wrong high as played minutes at Rotherham so pipe down
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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:44:50 GMT 1
Never had a second half as bad as today? Wow. Let’s not dress it up that was one of the worst showing in the second half. I don’t blame the players, I actually feel sorry for them having to endure such a useless coach with pathetic tactics and no plan A, never mind plan B. We had the excuse of when we play the teams around us we then will see a different approach as we have to pick up the points. What did we get today… Negativity to the core! We picked up a point today. If Corberan or Wagner had presided over that today, it would have been hailed as a great result. But because its Fotheringham, its a crap result and the world is gonna end blah blah blah.
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Post by buckers on Jan 14, 2023 18:46:07 GMT 1
You obviously didn't see many away games last season. 3-0 v Blackpool, 2-0 v Boro, 4-3 v Reading, 3-2 v Bristol, 2-1 v Fulham, 2-1 v Coventry, 2-1 v Sheff U, etc. We went to win every game under Carlos, under Fotheringham we're set up not to lose. Big, big difference in tactics. Yeah, my mistake, you're totally right. We were amazing in every game last season. Lee you back again pal?
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Post by specialun on Jan 14, 2023 18:46:57 GMT 1
Let’s not dress it up that was one of the worst showing in the second half. I don’t blame the players, I actually feel sorry for them having to endure such a useless coach with pathetic tactics and no plan A, never mind plan B. We had the excuse of when we play the teams around us we then will see a different approach as we have to pick up the points. What did we get today… Negativity to the core! We picked up a point today. If Corberan or Wagner had presided over that today, it would have been hailed as a great result. But because its Fotheringham, its a crap result and the world is gonna end blah blah blah. If we’d thrown away 2 points by taking a over negative approach no head coach would escape criticism 2 attack minded players on the pitch at the end - seems excessive go ugly / defend / don’t try attack too much
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Post by hthp on Jan 14, 2023 18:47:14 GMT 1
But he's here, and he's going nowhere, so stop fucking moaning. Why should I stop 'fucking moaning' when Hoyle & Bromby have made an absolute cluster fuck of the season with their brainless appointments? They should be ashamed! Because you're doing fuck all about it. Go and tell them, voice your concerns, kick up a fuss at the games or just don't go. You're just crying because Wagner didn't come back. Yeah, we're struggling, yeah it's shite, but for fucks sake the crying and the wailing is just pathetic. Grown men crying because an ex manager has got another job. I've seen five year olds that are less pathetic than some of you lot on here.
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