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Post by alexdire on Mar 4, 2023 20:07:15 GMT 1
I have a guaranteed price for my two season tickets next season. But I'm reluctant to put money in. If all it does is disappear when the club goes into administration.
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Post by morleyterrier on Mar 4, 2023 20:07:31 GMT 1
I detect some optimism here!. We need a bit more of this. Although, how the hell we are supposed to be optimistic looking at the league table!. Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 4, 2023 20:08:47 GMT 1
You start to wonder what's the point when we've lost track of what we're doing, seems we've run out of steam. From a “Flying Scotsman” called Westie - From Islay to Huddersfield Town ! ‘Train’ of thought here - but here is a good pic of something flying through Huddersfield Town with a very good head of steam - unlike our footy team ! View AttachmentHe’ll of a train that Westie, 10 passenger carriages. Probably a football special from 1992, they always allocated the shittest oldest rolling stock they could find. Quite understandably I suppose. |
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Post by terriers321 on Mar 4, 2023 20:10:04 GMT 1
Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. We will be dead and buried before Cardiff. Theres 30 points to play for before that fixture and the majority are against promotion contenders. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 4, 2023 20:10:11 GMT 1
What is now important is that DH secures a transfer of ownership that gives the new owners the best chance of a fresh start.
How we arrived in this position has been well debated. Given there will be a change we need to focus on this.
We are in a hole, of our own making, at the moment. Short term I don't see much hope, but it's important that we (the fans) reasonably request the club is given the chance to recover.
I have always believed we can be better. From a footballing perspective I can accept being a League One team. I just hope we don't lose sight we can be better and are entitled to expect we strive to be better.
The sooner things change now the better.
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Post by siddalterrier on Mar 4, 2023 20:12:31 GMT 1
Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. |
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Post by Towner47 on Mar 4, 2023 20:13:43 GMT 1
For only the second time in my Town years of following I had enough and headed home at 4.30 pm.
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Post by jackandjillupthehill on Mar 4, 2023 20:17:43 GMT 1
Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. its over pal there is no future in the championship,look forward to league1 there is no option |
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Post by rockwall on Mar 4, 2023 20:20:49 GMT 1
For only the second time in my Town years of following I had enough and headed home at 4.30 pm. Same for me. Hope that those upstairs took notice. More outside the ground going at 65/70 mins than in. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 4, 2023 20:22:36 GMT 1
That's a best case scenario. If we don't sell, DH cuts his losses and we go into admin and probably liquidation. Ideally that happens in the short term NOW for the benefit of the club....the points deduction no longer means anything, we're relegated. A points deduction next season could mean the difference between bouncing back and never seeing this level for another 10 years+ IF - and it’d be - ‘a sad day at the croft’ - as we say on these shores, that we did indeed plunge into administration... 1) When would the points deduction kick in - this season or next ? 2) How much would it be - given that this would be the second administration in Town’s history ? 3) What is the very final timescale for it to be officially declared for any points deduction to kick in this season - given that we’re all but doomed anyway ? Guenuinely concerned - and don’t have a scooby about these things so will appreciate any feedback ! |
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Post by covterrier on Mar 4, 2023 20:24:28 GMT 1
For only the second time in my Town years of following I had enough and headed home at 4.30 pm. Same for me. Hope that those upstairs took notice. More outside the ground going at 65/70 mins than in. I was passing Trowell services about the same time as I left the car park v Brum. Really looking forward to work Monday. . . NOT |
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Post by mrg on Mar 4, 2023 20:50:42 GMT 1
Yea, the lack of off the field strategy has been covered up by Carlos for 2 years. The reality is Dean has been the best chairman/ceo in my 35 years watching town. Unfortunately, he couldn't let Stuart Webber run the football side of things how he wanted to and could and it's cost the club tens of millions. The best the club can now hope for is either Dean staying and leaving Baldwin in charge with a decent manager and staff (and of course supporting the debt hes created) or someone new coming in and doing the same. Was the American consortium he didn't want to sell to because they were using debt to support it the guys who bought Burnley? I think it was. Hoyle stay in charge?! Are you on glue?!! Thanks for the memories Dean but take your £50m and fuck off I think you need to say what you really think mate. Lol. It was an option, not one I said I wanted. Fwiw last time we had a count up weren't the club £29m in the red, since when we've sold obrian toffs and pipa for circa £13m, potentially taken the play off final money and reduced the wage bill back to circa £11m. With annual money and commerce to now he should be writing off roughly £15m which is the kongolo purchase he fucked up doing it by himself. He needs to just write that off ti the right buyer and stop being a control freak. |
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Post by mrg on Mar 4, 2023 20:51:45 GMT 1
He would have sold cardshop for £70m if birthdays hadn't gone bust at the same time and KPMG hadn't suggested he hoover up birthdays, repackage it and sell it fir £350m, no doubt trousered touching £70m themselves in that deal. Basically he ran a decent bunch of cardshops sold them for a very healthy profit, invested £40m into a football club and when that club got to the wealthiest league on earth, thought he could run it all himself. Im shocked noone ever told him to get a strategy coach, because it's the most obviously thing I've ever seen. It's happened now, he broken even on his investment probably up to the end of this year and depending on the wage bill moving forward, that will need footing. I don't think birthdays have gone bust mate, I had mine a ok a few weeks back Lol, good one  |
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Post by htfcterry on Mar 4, 2023 20:56:50 GMT 1
Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. Fuck me. It literally doesn’t matter if other teams win or lose. We’re fucked! |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 4, 2023 20:56:52 GMT 1
Loads of Police about after the game the was an Ambulance with its lights on by the Coventry coach and loads of Police and stewards there it looked like something was going off behind the South stand during the second half
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Mar 4, 2023 20:57:45 GMT 1
The ever rising club debt money owed to Hoyle is mainly for all his mistakes and very much doubt it will be ever paid back
Surely he must realise this and feel it wont be long before he walks away with a THE END storyline
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 4, 2023 21:06:20 GMT 1
Will he be doing another lap of honour after the Reading game?
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Post by malcolmbrown on Mar 4, 2023 21:09:12 GMT 1
Will he be doing another lap of honour after the Reading game? Please let this happen. |
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 4, 2023 21:11:06 GMT 1
I feel sick to be honest. This is horrible
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Post by malcolmbrown on Mar 4, 2023 21:15:53 GMT 1
I feel sick to be honest. This is horrible I know how you feel. The contrast between Coventry, a club on the up, with excited, expectant fans and us, a club defeated at all levels, the boardroom, dugout and stands was grim. |
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Post by efesodje23 on Mar 4, 2023 21:17:37 GMT 1
That's a best case scenario. If we don't sell, DH cuts his losses and we go into admin and probably liquidation. Ideally that happens in the short term NOW for the benefit of the club....the points deduction no longer means anything, we're relegated. A points deduction next season could mean the difference between bouncing back and never seeing this level for another 10 years+ You could give us 10pts for next season and we still wouldn't finish anywhere near the playoffs |
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Post by 28901 on Mar 4, 2023 21:34:10 GMT 1
From a “Flying Scotsman” called Westie - From Islay to Huddersfield Town ! ‘Train’ of thought here - but here is a good pic of something flying through Huddersfield Town with a very good head of steam - unlike our footy team ! View AttachmentHe’ll of a train that Westie, 10 passenger carriages. Probably a football special from 1992, they always allocated the shittest oldest rolling stock they could find. Quite understandably I suppose. They still had those compartments with a corridor down the side. You could stuck your head out of the window, or open the doors and jump off if the plod were after you. |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 4, 2023 22:09:23 GMT 1
Regardless of those 2, and I know people might point to losing the playoff final, but at the end of the day, it all comes down to us not showing any ambition to Carlos and then deciding to sell some of our better players and replace them with cheap hopeful punts, a bunch of kids for the future, and plenty of kids from the academy, as well as going for a manager who had never managed at first team level and expecting him to work wonders with.....not very much.
We ALL saw with the line up for the first game, and then the performance in the same game (as if we didn't already know before that game) that we were going to struggle massively this season.
Dean might have wanted to spend as little as possible and sell for as much as possible, but all he's ended up doing is fucking us over and making sure he gets fuck all from a sale.
Our relegation is inevitable. We showed nothing today to give me hope.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2023 23:42:39 GMT 1
Today's result, combined with others picking up points has knocked us all for 6, glad of the game on Tues, they have to turn up and win that or things will look even bleaker😐😐 Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. Is it Bollox. We are done. All I’ve heard all season is we need to win. We never do. We have no midfield creativity at all. The players have gone and you can see it. Dean Hoyle has totally ruined this football club. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 4, 2023 23:43:57 GMT 1
Will he be doing another lap of honour after the Reading game? Please let this happen. I think not - If he is ‘Reading’ The reaction on DATM ! |
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Post by townrwe on Mar 5, 2023 0:02:34 GMT 1
It depends if the new owners are willing to take as a big a loss in league 1 as the championship... losing 10m a year say in league 1 would have you with a massive budget capable of going up autos. Losing 10m in champs gets you mid table maybe. So in reality, the process doesn't really change what division your in, just the reward of been lucky in the championship is 180m.
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Post by townrwe on Mar 5, 2023 0:03:35 GMT 1
Cardiff (and others) need to lose some games and we definitely need to win on Tuesday. Cardiff match is huge. Not quite needing snookers but not many points left on the table!. Is it Bollox. We are done. All I’ve heard all season is we need to win. We never do. We have no midfield creativity at all. The players have gone and you can see it. Dean Hoyle has totally ruined this football club. Totally agree. The midfield and left side have been an issue all season and someone capable of putting the ball in the net We are done. |
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Post by yorkie69 on Mar 5, 2023 0:11:43 GMT 1
That's a best case scenario. If we don't sell, DH cuts his losses and we go into admin and probably liquidation. Ideally that happens in the short term NOW for the benefit of the club....the points deduction no longer means anything, we're relegated. A points deduction next season could mean the difference between bouncing back and never seeing this level for another 10 years+ Any points deduction this season will be moved to next season if we were to be relegated anyway. This rule has been in place for a while and is an attempt to stop clubs doing exactly what you suggest. Any administration this season will lead to a big points deduction next year. |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 5, 2023 0:22:22 GMT 1
Ideally that happens in the short term NOW for the benefit of the club....the points deduction no longer means anything, we're relegated. A points deduction next season could mean the difference between bouncing back and never seeing this level for another 10 years+ Any points deduction this season will be moved to next season if we were to be relegated anyway. This rule has been in place for a while and is an attempt to stop clubs doing exactly what you suggest. Any administration this season will lead to a big points deduction next year. That only applies if going into admin after a certain point of the season doesn’t it? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6736997.stmIf it’s changed since then, do we know anyone who wants to buy a League 2 club that has 8000 season ticket holders and a stadium that needs £10m of investment in the next few years? 🫣 |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 5, 2023 0:46:22 GMT 1
If that rule is still in place I’m struggling for a reason Hoyle wouldn’t pull the plug. He’s not getting that money back now.
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